The bb-services entry for smtps rightly indicates that smtps does not have an IANA-approved port number, however the "standard" port used as the default for most clients is what's generally run -- port 465. Also, port 587 _is_ a standard for "submission" or "msa"... first time injection of messages via authorized or authenticated SMTP. It would be nice to see both of these supported by default in hobbit's config. A patch to do so is below. Regards, -jc --- bbnet/bb-services.msa 2007-09-17 21:12:25.000000000 -0700 +++ bbnet/bb-services 2007-09-17 21:21:46.000000000 -0700 @@ -73,6 +73,12 @@ options banner port 25 +[submission|msa] + send "mail\r\nquit\r\n" + expect "220" + options banner + port 587 + [smtps] send "mail\r\nquit\r\n" expect "220" --- bbnet/bb-services.smtps 2007-09-17 21:12:25.000000000 -0700 +++ bbnet/bb-services 2007-09-17 21:23:04.000000000 -0700 @@ -77,7 +77,7 @@ send "mail\r\nquit\r\n" expect "220" options ssl,banner -# No default port-number assignment for smtps - nonstandard according to IANA + port 465 [pop2|pop-2] send "quit\r\n"