On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 06:03:36PM +0100, ralph.goeckel (at) accenture.com wrote:
I am testing the actual (4.2.0) hobbit client together with a BigBrother professional monitoring server.
Won't work. The Hobbit client architecture is not compatible with a BB server.
Are you merely talking about the BB professional server? We're running an old version of the BB server (bb1.9c) and I seem to get the same errors as Ralph, is it impossible to make it work there too?
Thank you in advance.
/ahnberg.
On Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 04:19:12PM +0100, Mattias Ahnberg wrote:
On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 06:03:36PM +0100, ralph.goeckel (at) accenture.com wrote:
I am testing the actual (4.2.0) hobbit client together with a BigBrother professional monitoring server.
Won't work. The Hobbit client architecture is not compatible with a BB server.
Are you merely talking about the BB professional server? We're running an old version of the BB server (bb1.9c) and I seem to get the same errors as Ralph, is it impossible to make it work there too?
You cannot use a Hobbit client with a BB server - whether it is BB Pro or the "better-than-free" version.
The Hobbit server is compatible with BB clients, but not the other way around.
Henrik
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Henrik Stoerner wrote:
You cannot use a Hobbit client with a BB server - whether it is BB Pro or the "better-than-free" version.
Henrik, what does that mean exactly? Is it not supported, is it not supposed to work, or what?
I'm asking because we (Mattias and I work for the same company) use Hobbit clients successfully with BB servers. It Seems To Work [tm] if it is purposely configured for that. We have a whole bunch of BB servers and clients which will eventually be migrated to Hobbit, but that will take some time and it would be a shame if we had to keep installing BB clients until all the servers have been replaced.
Ulric
On Monday 19 March 2007, Ulric Eriksson wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Henrik Stoerner wrote:
You cannot use a Hobbit client with a BB server - whether it is BB Pro or the "better-than-free" version.
Henrik, what does that mean exactly? Is it not supported, is it not supposed to work, or what?
I'm asking because we (Mattias and I work for the same company) use Hobbit clients successfully with BB servers. It Seems To Work [tm] if it is purposely configured for that. We have a whole bunch of BB servers and clients which will eventually be migrated to Hobbit, but that will take some time and it would be a shame if we had to keep installing BB clients until all the servers have been replaced. The hobbit client uses a format that the bb server will not understand.
External scripts will work fine because they use the "BB protocol".
BB server: understands BB protocol hobbit server: understands BB and hobbit protocol
BB client: uses BB protocol hobbit client: uses hobbit protocol
BB and hobbit external scripts: uses BB protocol
Stef
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Stef Coene wrote:
The hobbit client uses a format that the bb server will not understand.
Except that it does. I promise. We have twenty-ish Hobbit clients that report to BB servers. I tapped into the communication to figure out a quirk, and it looks just like BB communication except that too the messages are too large for BB unless BBMAXMSGSPERCOMBO is set to 1.
It is my impression that Hobbit clients use different protocols depending on the server.
Ulric
On Monday 19 March 2007, Ulric Eriksson wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Stef Coene wrote:
The hobbit client uses a format that the bb server will not understand.
Except that it does. I promise. We have twenty-ish Hobbit clients that report to BB servers. I tapped into the communication to figure out a quirk, and it looks just like BB communication except that too the messages are too large for BB unless BBMAXMSGSPERCOMBO is set to 1.
It is my impression that Hobbit clients use different protocols depending on the server. The hobbit clients have no idea to what hobbit server they are reporting.
Mhh, what bb server are you using ? Is it possible that this is a version that is capable to understand messages from hobbit clients ?
Stef
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Stef Coene wrote:
The hobbit clients have no idea to what hobbit server they are reporting.
If you say so. One of the first problems I had when we started using Hobbit was getting it to report to *both* BB and Hobbit servers. The solution then was to change the order of the servers.
Mhh, what bb server are you using ? Is it possible that this is a version that is capable to understand messages from hobbit clients ?
1.9c
Ulric
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 01:08:45PM +0100, Ulric Eriksson wrote:
On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, Stef Coene wrote:
The hobbit client uses a format that the bb server will not understand.
Except that it does. I promise. We have twenty-ish Hobbit clients that report to BB servers.
I think I know why: You're running the client in "local" mode, with all of the configuration stored on the client. Then the client will report to a BB server using the old "status" protocol.
I never use it and had forgotten about it.
Regards, Henrik
On Monday 19 March 2007, Henrik Stoerner wrote:
I think I know why: You're running the client in "local" mode, with all of the configuration stored on the client. Then the client will report to a BB server using the old "status" protocol.
I never use it and had forgotten about it. Maybe a good idea to put this info on the tips and tricks page ?
"how to use the hobbit client to report to a bigbrother server"
Stef
Maybe a good idea to put this info on the tips and tricks page ?
"how to use the hobbit client to report to a bigbrother server"
I have a VERY short writeup on the configuration we use. I can put it somewhere public if there is interest.
Ulric
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ulric Eriksson" <ulric at siag.nu> To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [hobbit] BB compatibility problem.
Maybe a good idea to put this info on the tips and tricks page ?
"how to use the hobbit client to report to a bigbrother server"
I have a VERY short writeup on the configuration we use. I can put it somewhere public if there is interest.
How about put it up here ?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/HOWTO
tj
Ulric
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On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, T.J. Yang wrote:
How about put it up here ?
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/HOWTO
Done!
Ulric
On Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 09:28:48AM +0100, Ulric Eriksson wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2007, Henrik Stoerner wrote:
You cannot use a Hobbit client with a BB server - whether it is BB Pro or the "better-than-free" version.
Henrik, what does that mean exactly? Is it not supported, is it not supposed to work, or what?
It means "will not work" and hence "not supported".
I'm asking because we (Mattias and I work for the same company) use Hobbit clients successfully with BB servers. It Seems To Work [tm] if it is purposely configured for that.
Your custom tests - the "extension scripts" - that run on the client will work, because they send results using the old BB-compatible "status" protocol.
The basic client data - those that end up in the "cpu", "disk", "msgs" and "procs" columns - will not work without a Hobbit server to interpret the data. The Hobbit client doesn't report these data in a form that the BB server understands.
Regards, Henrik
We have a whole bunch of BB servers and clients which will eventually be migrated to Hobbit, but that will take some time and it would be a shame if we had to keep installing BB clients until all the servers have been replaced.
Ulric
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