Hi I have hobbit running on a VM. I moved the VM to a different host server. The VM now has a different ip address. When I bring up Hobbit, the clients are no longer able to communicate with the Hobbit server. Can someone tell me how to update the clients with the changed ip address of the hobbit server?
Thanks
-- Sridhar
Edit BBDISP in ~hobbituser/client/etc/hobbitclient.cfg
Sometimes it is a good idea to use a name here so you can just change the A record instead of every client. Of course that depends on DNS which is bad when you're server is down.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:55 AM, <Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us> wrote:
Hi
I have hobbit running on a VM. I moved the VM to a different host server. The VM now has a different ip address. When I bring up Hobbit, the clients are no longer able to communicate with the Hobbit server. Can someone tell me how to update the clients with the changed ip address of the hobbit server?
Thanks
-- Sridhar
some groups in my company start to use Nagios. Has anyone used it.. Can anyone give the feedback regarding the Nagios. Pro or Con are welcome. I need that information to defend my choice of Xymon.
Thanks
A quick Google search turned up a lot of information, including some hits on this question being asked on this very mailing list.
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Dec 1, 2010 13:42, tinh.do at continental-corporation.com <tinh.do at continental-corporation.com> wrote:
some groups in my company start to use Nagios.
Has anyone used it..
Can anyone give the feedback regarding the Nagios. Pro or Con are welcome.
I need that information to defend my choice of Xymon.
Thanks
Sinh Chao Tinh (I assume you are Vietnamese judging by your name).
One of the most usefull features of xymon versus Nagios for me is that Xymon is extremely easy to get up and running, troubleshoot and understand. I recently had a look at Nagios and OpenNMS just to see whats on the other side of the fence. Also to add new custom alerts to Xymon is very very easy compared to the other two. For example I monitor values in a SQL table every 5 minutes and alert our operations team when there is a discrepancy. The whole process of developing the script to do it must have been about 5 minutes.
Anyway
Hope that gives you some answers.
From: tinh.do at continental-corporation.com [mailto:tinh.do at continental-corporation.com] Sent: 01 December 2010 08:40 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: [xymon] Compare Xymon and Nagios
some groups in my company start to use Nagios. Has anyone used it.. Can anyone give the feedback regarding the Nagios. Pro or Con are welcome. I need that information to defend my choice of Xymon.
Thanks
Another thing that is great with Xymon is that you can send a lot of information with the status message, and view it in Xymon, not just the color and a short message. You don't have to log on to the system to see what caused the warning/error, and it's also great for keeping trends/history. Maybe this is possible in Nagios as well with some plugin, but I don't think it's the default behavior.
/Johan
From: Neil Franken [mailto:nfranken at theunlimited.co.za] Sent: den 2 december 2010 06:15 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: RE: [xymon] Compare Xymon and Nagios
Sinh Chao Tinh (I assume you are Vietnamese judging by your name).
One of the most usefull features of xymon versus Nagios for me is that Xymon is extremely easy to get up and running, troubleshoot and understand. I recently had a look at Nagios and OpenNMS just to see whats on the other side of the fence. Also to add new custom alerts to Xymon is very very easy compared to the other two. For example I monitor values in a SQL table every 5 minutes and alert our operations team when there is a discrepancy. The whole process of developing the script to do it must have been about 5 minutes.
Anyway
Hope that gives you some answers.
From: tinh.do at continental-corporation.com [mailto:tinh.do at continental-corporation.com] Sent: 01 December 2010 08:40 PM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: [xymon] Compare Xymon and Nagios
some groups in my company start to use Nagios. Has anyone used it.. Can anyone give the feedback regarding the Nagios. Pro or Con are welcome. I need that information to defend my choice of Xymon.
Thanks
Citerar tinh.do at continental-corporation.com:
some groups in my company start to use Nagios. Has anyone used it.. Can anyone give the feedback regarding the Nagios. Pro or Con are welcome. I need that information to defend my choice of Xymon.
I have used Xymon/Hobbit (and Big Brother before that) *a lot* and Nagios in the incarnation of Opsview quite a bit less. I can say that they are conceptually similar and a choice would have to be based on personal taste. Development of plugins / ext tests is almost identical and either can be trivially converted to the other.
Sorry for not being able to cough up more substantial support. I really can't think of anything that you can do with one but not the other.
Ulric
Nagios was designed as a daemon to monitor itself on its own server. It relies on Nagios extensions like nrpe to transfer data back from remote servers.
Configuration is extremely complicated in Nagios as compared to Xymon. You can get a Xymon server up and running much more quickly than a Nagios server because the Xymon client does so much of the work for you out of the box. By the same token, getting a Xymon client monitored is very simple, just installing the application and starting it up immediately gets you a host of standard system monitors like disk, memory, CPU and connectivity. Nagios is not so quick.
When it comes down to writing non-standard monitors they are as easy as each other although at the end of the day, as mentioned by Johan, Xymon can send large packets of data back, Nagios currently can't...
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From: tinh.do at continental-corporation.com [mailto:tinh.do at continental-corporation.com] Sent: 01 December 2010 18:40 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: [xymon] Compare Xymon and Nagios
some groups in my company start to use Nagios. Has anyone used it.. Can anyone give the feedback regarding the Nagios. Pro or Con are welcome. I need that information to defend my choice of Xymon.
Thanks
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Hi, Tinh
Nice to see you post question here.
I went through this Xymon vs Nagios evaluation exercise a few month ago. Last evaluation was Hobbit vs BB.
Please see questions I posted to Nagio support in R1 for a clue, why Xymon got picked over Nagios (in my case).
R1. http://support.nagios.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=442&p=1831#p1831
tj On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Ward, Martin <Martin.Ward at colt.net> wrote:
Nagios was designed as a daemon to monitor itself on its own server. It relies on Nagios extensions like nrpe to transfer data back from remote servers.
Configuration is extremely complicated in Nagios as compared to Xymon. You can get a Xymon server up and running much more quickly than a Nagios server because the Xymon client does so much of the work for you out of the box. By the same token, getting a Xymon client monitored is very simple, just installing the application and starting it up immediately gets you a host of standard system monitors like disk, memory, CPU and connectivity. Nagios is not so quick.
When it comes down to writing non-standard monitors they are as easy as each other although at the end of the day, as mentioned by Johan, Xymon can send large packets of data back, Nagios currently can't…
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From: tinh.do at continental-corporation.com [mailto:tinh.do at continental-corporation.com] Sent: 01 December 2010 18:40
To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: [xymon] Compare Xymon and Nagios
some groups in my company start to use Nagios.
Has anyone used it.. Can anyone give the feedback regarding the Nagios. Pro or Con are welcome. I need that information to defend my choice of Xymon.
Thanks
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-- T.J. Yang
i think you are forced to change it on every client.
Da: Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us [mailto:Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us] Inviato: mercoledì 1 dicembre 2010 17:56 A: xymon at xymon.com Oggetto: [xymon] Moving hobbit server
Hi
I have hobbit running on a VM. I moved the VM to a different host server. The VM now has a different ip address. When I bring up Hobbit, the clients are no longer able to communicate with the Hobbit server. Can someone tell me how to update the clients with the changed ip address of the hobbit server?
Thanks
-- Sridhar
He asked "Can someone tell me how to update the clients with the changed ip address of the hobbit server?" so I believe he understands that.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Alessandro Tinivelli <alessandro.tinivelli at monrif.net> wrote:
i think you are forced to change it on every client.
Da: Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us [mailto:Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us] Inviato: mercoledì 1 dicembre 2010 17:56 A: xymon at xymon.com Oggetto: [xymon] Moving hobbit server
Hi
I have hobbit running on a VM. I moved the VM to a different host server. The VM now has a different ip address. When I bring up Hobbit, the clients are no longer able to communicate with the Hobbit server. Can someone tell me how to update the clients with the changed ip address of the hobbit server?
Thanks
-- Sridhar
Check the documentation for setting the server IP initially when setting up a client. Pretty sure it's the bb-hosts file, but this is well documented.
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Dec 1, 2010 12:51, Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
He asked "Can someone tell me how to update the clients with the
changed ip address of the hobbit server?" so I believe he understands
that.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Alessandro Tinivelli
<alessandro.tinivelli at monrif.net> wrote:
> i think you are forced to change it on every client.
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> Da: Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us
> [mailto:Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us]
> Inviato: mercoledì 1 dicembre 2010 17:56
> A: xymon at xymon.com
> Oggetto: [xymon] Moving hobbit server
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>
>
> Hi
>
> I have hobbit running on a VM. I moved the VM to a different host server.
> The VM now has a different ip address. When I bring up Hobbit, the clients
> are no longer able to communicate with the Hobbit server. Can someone tell
> me how to update the clients with the changed ip address of the hobbit
> server?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -- Sridhar
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On my RHEL-type systems installed from rpm, it's HOBBITSERVERS in /etc/sysconfig/xymon-client.
On Wed, December 1, 2010 14:02, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
Check the documentation for setting the server IP initially when setting up a client. Pretty sure it's the bb-hosts file, but this is well documented.
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Dec 1, 2010 12:51, Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
He asked "Can someone tell me how to update the clients with the
changed ip address of the hobbit server?" so I believe he understands
that.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Alessandro Tinivelli
<alessandro.tinivelli at monrif.net> wrote:
> i think you are forced to change it on every client.
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>
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> Da: Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us
> [mailto:Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us]
> Inviato: mercoledì 1 dicembre 2010 17:56
> A: xymon at xymon.com
> Oggetto: [xymon] Moving hobbit server
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>
>
> Hi
>
> I have hobbit running on a VM. I moved the VM to a different host server.
> The VM now has a different ip address. When I bring up Hobbit, the clients
> are no longer able to communicate with the Hobbit server. Can someone tell
> me how to update the clients with the changed ip address of the hobbit
> server?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -- Sridhar
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.. and/or on older/other clients, maybe in
/etc/default/hobbit-client
cheers, martin
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010, Xymon User in Richmond wrote:
On my RHEL-type systems installed from rpm, it's HOBBITSERVERS in /etc/sysconfig/xymon-client.
On Wed, December 1, 2010 14:02, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
Check the documentation for setting the server IP initially when setting up a client. Pretty sure it's the bb-hosts file, but this is well documented.
-- Sent from my Palm Pre On Dec 1, 2010 12:51, Josh Luthman <josh at imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
He asked "Can someone tell me how to update the clients with the
changed ip address of the hobbit server?" so I believe he understands
that.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Alessandro Tinivelli
<alessandro.tinivelli at monrif.net> wrote:
> i think you are forced to change it on every client.
>
>
>
> Da: Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us
> [mailto:Sridhar.Adapalli at hhsc.state.tx.us]
> Inviato: mercoled?? 1 dicembre 2010 17:56
> A: xymon at xymon.com
> Oggetto: [xymon] Moving hobbit server
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> I have hobbit running on a VM. I moved the VM to a different host server.
> The VM now has a different ip address. When I bring up Hobbit, the clients
> are no longer able to communicate with the Hobbit server. Can someone tell
> me how to update the clients with the changed ip address of the hobbit
> server?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> -- Sridhar
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participants (12)
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alessandro.tinivelli＠monrif.net
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hobbit＠epperson.homelinux.net
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johan.sjoberg＠deltamanagement.se
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josh＠imaginenetworksllc.com
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martin.flemming＠desy.de
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Martin.Ward＠colt.net
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nfranken＠theunlimited.co.za
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novosirj＠umdnj.edu
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Sridhar.Adapalli＠hhsc.state.tx.us
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tinh.do＠continental-corporation.com
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tjyang2001＠gmail.com
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ulric＠siag.nu