Running a new unpatched Hobbit 4.2.0 (hoping to hold for until 4.2.1) server on Solaris 10 and getting "hobbitd status-board not available" alerts fairly randomly (about 2 an hour). These alerts immediately clear.
We also randomly get "Status not available" when clicking on a monitor, but immediately refreshing the page clears the error. I'm thinking the two are related. The bb-display.log is only showing the status-board errors.
Any ideas?
Thanks, -Rob
yellow Wed Oct 11 13:48:25 2006
bbgen for Hobbit version 4.2.0
Statistics: Hosts : 263 Status messages : 0 Purple messages : 0 Pages : 19
Error output: hobbitd status-board not available
TIME SPENT Event Starttime Duration Startup 1160599705.777813
Load links done 1160599705.778253 0.000440 Load bbhosts done 1160599705.784646 0.006393 ACK removal done 1160599705.784717 0.000071 Load STATE done 1160599705.785587 0.000870 Color calculation done 1160599705.785638 0.000051 Hobbit pagegen start 1160599705.785652 0.000014 Hobbit pagegen done 1160599706.013092 0.227440 BB2 generation done 1160599706.025205 0.012113 BBNK generation done 1160599706.036986 0.011781 Summary transmission done 1160599706.036988 0.000002 Run completed 1160599706.036991 0.000003 TIME TOTAL 0.259178
Solaris 10 sparc/intel or linux ?
Not trying to start arguments, Just want to understand how others making their decisions ?
For me, I think Solaris 10 has following technical advantages over linux(RH) camp
- Dtrace to help on problem finding.
- Faster TCP/IP stack(rewrote and improved in Solaris 10).
- Very rock solid stable.
- Commercial support avaiable from Sun if needed.
- Solarish has no OS seat-license(RH Linux has it).
Thanks for your time
T.J. Yang
Use what you know and like. For me, that's Linux. I haven't used Solaris since version 9. I've heard that 10 is good, but for me there's no reason to look back.
On 10/11/06, T.J. Yang <tj_yang at hotmail.com> wrote:
Solaris 10 sparc/intel or linux ?
Not trying to start arguments, Just want to understand how others making their decisions ?
For me, I think Solaris 10 has following technical advantages over linux(RH) camp
- Dtrace to help on problem finding.
- Faster TCP/IP stack(rewrote and improved in Solaris 10).
- Very rock solid stable.
- Commercial support avaiable from Sun if needed.
- Solarish has no OS seat-license(RH Linux has it).
Thanks for your time
T.J. Yang
To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk
Hi,
Frankly I d compare that kind of question with "what is better, plasma or lcd ?".
It all depends of what you are running on your server, the number of hosts you have to check/gather reports from, how well it will integrate with your existing setup ...
I run it on Fedora Core, since my network is mostly composed of that release. I do however use hobbit to monitor Solaris, from 8 to 10.
Regards, Stephane
T.J. Yang wrote:
Solaris 10 sparc/intel or linux ?
Not trying to start arguments, Just want to understand how others making their decisions ?
For me, I think Solaris 10 has following technical advantages over linux(RH) camp
- Dtrace to help on problem finding.
- Faster TCP/IP stack(rewrote and improved in Solaris 10).
- Very rock solid stable.
- Commercial support avaiable from Sun if needed.
- Solarish has no OS seat-license(RH Linux has it).
Thanks for your time
T.J. Yang
To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk
I prefer linux because of the thousands of packages available in standard formats without worrying about which compiler was used to compile X. Indeed you might say "Well hobbit compiles on my $OS", but does net-snmp? RRD tool? perl? perl's dbi/dbh, etc?
I like debian because I write a lot of external scripts for hobbit and debian's perl library in the native package management is incredible. Plus I can have an identical machine configured in less than 20 minutes if I have the output from "dpkg -l" from the old machine.
That's my 2 cents. I run 20 solaris boxen, and I try to keep as little software on them as possible for the above reasons.
On 10/11/06, Stephane Caminade <stephane.caminade at ias.u-psud.fr> wrote:
Hi,
Frankly I d compare that kind of question with "what is better, plasma or lcd ?".
It all depends of what you are running on your server, the number of hosts you have to check/gather reports from, how well it will integrate with your existing setup ...
I run it on Fedora Core, since my network is mostly composed of that release. I do however use hobbit to monitor Solaris, from 8 to 10.
Regards, Stephane
T.J. Yang wrote:
Solaris 10 sparc/intel or linux ?
Not trying to start arguments, Just want to understand how others making their decisions ?
For me, I think Solaris 10 has following technical advantages over linux(RH) camp
- Dtrace to help on problem finding.
- Faster TCP/IP stack(rewrote and improved in Solaris 10).
- Very rock solid stable.
- Commercial support avaiable from Sun if needed.
- Solarish has no OS seat-license(RH Linux has it).
Thanks for your time
T.J. Yang
To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk
To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk
On Wed, Oct 11, 2006 at 04:41:30PM -0500, T.J. Yang wrote:
Solaris 10 sparc/intel or linux ?
Pick whatever suits you best, I don't think there are any overwhelming technical reasons for choosing one or the other.
At work I'm running Hobbit on Sun/SPARC hardware, with a Debian/Linux OS. Linux was *much* better at running our old Big Brother installation*), so that is what caused us to switch to Linux initially. When we moved to Hobbit, I just kept linux on the boxes because it was the easiest thing to do. (There was no compelling reason to go back to Solaris, and Linux has all of the tools I need available, without having to download tons of stuff from sunfreeware.com).
Regards, Henrik
*) The reason why Linux is better for a BB installation is because the fork()/exec() system-call sequence used to launch a new program is incredibly slow on Solaris - that's why all of the real server programs for Solaris use threads. However, BB is written with shell scripts, so there is no way you can avoid lots of fork()/exec() calls with BB. And Linux just does that a lot faster than Solaris. At least this was true for Solaris 8, I haven't done any comparisons on later versions.
On Wednesday 11 October 2006 23:41, T.J. Yang wrote:
Solaris 10 sparc/intel or linux ?
Not trying to start arguments, Just want to understand how others making their decisions ?
For me, I think Solaris 10 has following technical advantages over linux(RH) camp
- Dtrace to help on problem finding.
Have you ever had problems on a Hobbit server that you could not track down quickly without Dtrace?
- Faster TCP/IP stack(rewrote and improved in Solaris 10).
Faster than what? Solaris 9? I haven't seen sufficient benchmarking regarding Solaris 10 vs Linux 2.6 regarding TCP/IP, but you may be interested in this benchmark regarding OpenLDAP:
http://www.symas.com/benchmark-auth.shtml
Using the same hardware, application software, benchmark tools, and data, Linux 2.6 was 13-16% faster than Solaris 10.
- Very rock solid stable.
On either platform, uptime is usually dependant on the environment (power, users), not the OS.
- Commercial support avaiable from Sun if needed.
There are many commercial Linux vendors, and many companies offering commercial support.
- Solarish has no OS seat-license(RH Linux has it).
RH doesn't have licensing cost, only support cost. Solaris also has (much more expensive) support costs.
However, I don't think any of this is specific to Hobbit, and as such I don't know of this thread belongs on this list. Also, there may be a lot of other aspects to consider.
But, in our environment, we choose Linux by default for most services, Solaris only if the software is only supported on Solaris.
Regards, Buchan
-- Buchan Milne ISP Systems Specialist - Monitoring/Authentication Team Leader B.Eng,RHCE(803004789010797),LPIC-2(LPI000074592)
On 10/11/06, T.J. Yang <tj_yang at hotmail.com> wrote:
Solaris 10 sparc/intel or linux ?
- Very rock solid stable.
How do you quantify that?? I've got an old Compaq DL380 running RedHat-7.2 that had 3 outages since it was installed in Sep'01. The first outage was due to moving the system, the second was due to me fooling around with device drivers and the third time was when the power supply died. In between it was consistently getting 500+ days of uptime. Seems fairly stable to me...
Ralph Mitchell
I recommend FreeBSD of course ! :-))
Regards Nicolas Lienard
Le Mer 11 octobre 2006 23:41, T.J. Yang a écrit :
Solaris 10 sparc/intel or linux ?
Not trying to start arguments, Just want to understand how others making their decisions ?
For me, I think Solaris 10 has following technical advantages over linux(RH) camp 1. Dtrace to help on problem finding. 2. Faster TCP/IP stack(rewrote and improved in Solaris 10). 3. Very rock solid stable. 4. Commercial support avaiable from Sun if needed. 5. Solarish has no OS seat-license(RH Linux has it).
Thanks for your time
T.J. Yang
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