Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Us...
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
Can you post your perl script here ? or on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#bb...
Regards
tj
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
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Interest: I am certainly interested in this, especially with the asset management additions that TJ mentioned.
Aid: I would push for PHP rather than perl although I can code in both and am willing to help.
Nitty-gritty: However you write the code to generate the bb-hosts file you will need to include a comments field that allows users to add extra options to the comments field in the bb-hosts file. This is so that when Xymon is upgraded and Henrik adds more options in that would be added to the comments field, users can add those new options without having to wait until you rewrite the front-end.
|\/|artin
-----Original Message----- From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 July 2009 06:01 To: hobbit system monitoring Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#Using_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via
a
user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on
the
front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
Can you post your perl script here ? or on
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#bb-hosts_generation
Regards
tj
David Peters
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+61 4 17863572
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The code already includes an on-screen field and code that allows you to add any extra hobbit options.
-----Original Message----- From: Ward, Martin [mailto:Martin.Ward at colt.net] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:25 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Interest: I am certainly interested in this, especially with the asset management additions that TJ mentioned.
Aid: I would push for PHP rather than perl although I can code in both and am willing to help.
Nitty-gritty: However you write the code to generate the bb-hosts file you will need to include a comments field that allows users to add extra options to the comments field in the bb-hosts file. This is so that when Xymon is upgraded and Henrik adds more options in that would be added to the comments field, users can add those new options without having to wait until you rewrite the front-end.
|\/|artin
-----Original Message----- From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 July 2009 06:01 To: hobbit system monitoring Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#Using_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via
a
user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on
the
front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
Can you post your perl script here ? or on
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#bb-hosts_generation
Regards
tj
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
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Back again. I have now coded the search and host screen functions based on the schema of the original database.
Still a couple of lookup fields and host fields to go, however, I was looking for some feedback on the existing state.
The code to convert the database into bb-hosts including laid out by host-owner, location, application service etc has already been completed but I am not quite at the stage to run the existing dataset and blow away my current hobbit bb-hosts.
You can view a mockup db running here. http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl The screens are ready for update delete but I am finalizing the change audit management functions atm.
I also added some code that generates a graphical tree structure based on the layout of hobbit pages that gets generated from the db.
You can view that here: http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl
Feedback please.
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:17 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
The code already includes an on-screen field and code that allows you to add any extra hobbit options.
-----Original Message----- From: Ward, Martin [mailto:Martin.Ward at colt.net] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:25 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Interest: I am certainly interested in this, especially with the asset management additions that TJ mentioned.
Aid: I would push for PHP rather than perl although I can code in both and am willing to help.
Nitty-gritty: However you write the code to generate the bb-hosts file you will need to include a comments field that allows users to add extra options to the comments field in the bb-hosts file. This is so that when Xymon is upgraded and Henrik adds more options in that would be added to the comments field, users can add those new options without having to wait until you rewrite the front-end.
|\/|artin
-----Original Message----- From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 July 2009 06:01 To: hobbit system monitoring Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#Using_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via
a
user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on
the
front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
Can you post your perl script here ? or on
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#bb-hosts_generation
Regards
tj
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
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Oops those links were:
The main search screen:
http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl
and the graphical tree was:
http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl?rm=bbhosts
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 7:25 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Back again. I have now coded the search and host screen functions based on the schema of the original database.
Still a couple of lookup fields and host fields to go, however, I was looking for some feedback on the existing state.
The code to convert the database into bb-hosts including laid out by host-owner, location, application service etc has already been completed but I am not quite at the stage to run the existing dataset and blow away my current hobbit bb-hosts.
You can view a mockup db running here. http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl The screens are ready for update delete but I am finalizing the change audit management functions atm.
I also added some code that generates a graphical tree structure based on the layout of hobbit pages that gets generated from the db.
You can view that here: http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl
Feedback please.
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:17 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
The code already includes an on-screen field and code that allows you to add any extra hobbit options.
-----Original Message----- From: Ward, Martin [mailto:Martin.Ward at colt.net] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:25 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Interest: I am certainly interested in this, especially with the asset management additions that TJ mentioned.
Aid: I would push for PHP rather than perl although I can code in both and am willing to help.
Nitty-gritty: However you write the code to generate the bb-hosts file you will need to include a comments field that allows users to add extra options to the comments field in the bb-hosts file. This is so that when Xymon is upgraded and Henrik adds more options in that would be added to the comments field, users can add those new options without having to wait until you rewrite the front-end.
|\/|artin
-----Original Message----- From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 July 2009 06:01 To: hobbit system monitoring Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#Using_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via
a
user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on
the
front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
Can you post your perl script here ? or on
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#bb-hosts_generation
Regards
tj
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
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Sorry there was a problem with my web server and the graphical tree. Is fixed now.
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 8:04 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Oops those links were:
The main search screen:
http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl
and the graphical tree was:
http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl?rm=bbhosts
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 7:25 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Back again. I have now coded the search and host screen functions based on the schema of the original database.
Still a couple of lookup fields and host fields to go, however, I was looking for some feedback on the existing state.
The code to convert the database into bb-hosts including laid out by host-owner, location, application service etc has already been completed but I am not quite at the stage to run the existing dataset and blow away my current hobbit bb-hosts.
You can view a mockup db running here. http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl The screens are ready for update delete but I am finalizing the change audit management functions atm.
I also added some code that generates a graphical tree structure based on the layout of hobbit pages that gets generated from the db.
You can view that here: http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl
Feedback please.
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:17 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
The code already includes an on-screen field and code that allows you to add any extra hobbit options.
-----Original Message----- From: Ward, Martin [mailto:Martin.Ward at colt.net] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:25 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Interest: I am certainly interested in this, especially with the asset management additions that TJ mentioned.
Aid: I would push for PHP rather than perl although I can code in both and am willing to help.
Nitty-gritty: However you write the code to generate the bb-hosts file you will need to include a comments field that allows users to add extra options to the comments field in the bb-hosts file. This is so that when Xymon is upgraded and Henrik adds more options in that would be added to the comments field, users can add those new options without having to wait until you rewrite the front-end.
|\/|artin
-----Original Message----- From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 July 2009 06:01 To: hobbit system monitoring Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#Using_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via
a
user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on
the
front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
Can you post your perl script here ? or on
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#bb-hosts_generation
Regards
tj
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For me, it looks like a great show ! ;-)
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On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, David Peters wrote:
Sorry there was a problem with my web server and the graphical tree. Is fixed now.
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 8:04 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Oops those links were:
The main search screen:
http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl
and the graphical tree was:
http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl?rm=bbhosts
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Tuesday, 6 October 2009 7:25 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Back again. I have now coded the search and host screen functions based on the schema of the original database.
Still a couple of lookup fields and host fields to go, however, I was looking for some feedback on the existing state.
The code to convert the database into bb-hosts including laid out by host-owner, location, application service etc has already been completed but I am not quite at the stage to run the existing dataset and blow away my current hobbit bb-hosts.
You can view a mockup db running here. http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl The screens are ready for update delete but I am finalizing the change audit management functions atm.
I also added some code that generates a graphical tree structure based on the layout of hobbit pages that gets generated from the db.
You can view that here: http://www.electronf.com/xymondb/xymondb.pl
Feedback please.
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:17 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
The code already includes an on-screen field and code that allows you to add any extra hobbit options.
-----Original Message----- From: Ward, Martin [mailto:Martin.Ward at colt.net] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:25 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Interest: I am certainly interested in this, especially with the asset management additions that TJ mentioned.
Aid: I would push for PHP rather than perl although I can code in both and am willing to help.
Nitty-gritty: However you write the code to generate the bb-hosts file you will need to include a comments field that allows users to add extra options to the comments field in the bb-hosts file. This is so that when Xymon is upgraded and Henrik adds more options in that would be added to the comments field, users can add those new options without having to wait until you rewrite the front-end.
|\/|artin
-----Original Message----- From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com] Sent: 01 July 2009 06:01 To: hobbit system monitoring Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#Using_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via
a
user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on
the
front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
Can you post your perl script here ? or on
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Gui
de#bb-hosts_generation
Regards
tj
David Peters
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On Wednesday 01 July 2009 07:01:07 T.J. Yang wrote:
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#U sing_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
IMHO you shouldn't be choosing solutions before you have requirements ....
While qwikioffice looks snazzy, one of my requirements is that a view must be customised (possibly per-user), and a user *must* be able to get their correct view without any interaction (no mouse clicking etc.), so that this display can be used e.g. on a video wall, where no one is able to click the mouse. Any cycling of views etc. should be automated.
I have done some simple frame+js pages to do this with current hobbit (e.g. to cycle one frame between weathermap view and main view).
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
There are a number of AJAX libraries that people use with Catalyst, e.g. Prototype, Dojo, with some plugins allowing perl-ish calls in templates that result in the correct javascript. In conjunction with View::JSON, everything required is available ...
Maybe it's time to start collecting requirements and prototyping some stuff. I think the first thing we need is a Model::Xymon .
Regards, Buchan
What I have is a database front end, database and extraction script to hobbit. The database was written from the viewpoint of storing data about all the hosts that would end up in hobbit. It was always written to be our hobbit data source and as such has that in mind.
The model is solid in terms of operations managing the data but provides auditing and control.
The downside is that it is written in access because that is what the manager wanted and I am but a lowly contractor.
I am just a bit wary of trying to put too much into a configuration tool.
What I hate about hobbit and trying to sell it is that its host configuration is pretty ordinary.
-----Original Message----- From: Buchan Milne [mailto:bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:34 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Cc: T.J. Yang Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 07:01:07 T.J. Yang wrote:
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#U
sing_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
IMHO you shouldn't be choosing solutions before you have requirements ....
While qwikioffice looks snazzy, one of my requirements is that a view must be customised (possibly per-user), and a user *must* be able to get their correct view without any interaction (no mouse clicking etc.), so that this display can be used e.g. on a video wall, where no one is able to click the mouse. Any cycling of views etc. should be automated.
I have done some simple frame+js pages to do this with current hobbit (e.g. to cycle one frame between weathermap view and main view).
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
There are a number of AJAX libraries that people use with Catalyst, e.g. Prototype, Dojo, with some plugins allowing perl-ish calls in templates that
result in the correct javascript. In conjunction with View::JSON, everything
required is available ...
Maybe it's time to start collecting requirements and prototyping some stuff. I think the first thing we need is a Model::Xymon .
Regards, Buchan
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-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: 01 July 2009 11:26 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
What I have is a database front end, database and extraction script to hobbit. The database was written from the viewpoint of storing data about all the hosts that would end up in hobbit. It was always written to be our hobbit data source and as such has that in mind.
The model is solid in terms of operations managing the data but provides auditing and control.
The downside is that it is written in access because that is what the manager wanted and I am but a lowly contractor.
I am just a bit wary of trying to put too much into a configuration tool.
If I may suggest, just start with porting your Access database to MySQL. You might even be able to add hooks in to MS Access to point to the MySQL server and run your extraction scripts on the MySQL data (although that may be more effort than it's worth, I am not skilled in Access so don't know what effort will be involved). After you have the MySQL DB you can convert the extraction scripts, that would probably be the simplest task in this project. After that it's just coding the Perl/PHP scripts to access and maintain the database.
You could help yourself and others by putting the SQL code into a stand-alone module, making it easier to port to other SQL servers.
KISS and do it a step at a time. Keep us informed and we will help where we can.
What I hate about hobbit and trying to sell it is that its host configuration is pretty ordinary.
Yeah, but ordinary isn't necessarily bad, at least not for a couple of dozen servers. It's only when you get to hundreds of servers that it starts to become awkward.
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Okay I can't think of any easy way to do this other then just start coding based on the current forms and logic.
I will post screenshots from the existing system and the logic up on a website and email the link here. I will then create an svn repo and post a test db create script with some sample data. I will leave the existing conversion to bb-hosts alone at the moment and just post it as it is to the repo.
-----Original Message----- From: David Peters [mailto:davidp at electronf.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 8:26 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
What I have is a database front end, database and extraction script to hobbit. The database was written from the viewpoint of storing data about all the hosts that would end up in hobbit. It was always written to be our hobbit data source and as such has that in mind.
The model is solid in terms of operations managing the data but provides auditing and control.
The downside is that it is written in access because that is what the manager wanted and I am but a lowly contractor.
I am just a bit wary of trying to put too much into a configuration tool.
What I hate about hobbit and trying to sell it is that its host configuration is pretty ordinary.
-----Original Message----- From: Buchan Milne [mailto:bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 6:34 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Cc: T.J. Yang Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 07:01:07 T.J. Yang wrote:
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here,
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#U
sing_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
IMHO you shouldn't be choosing solutions before you have requirements ....
While qwikioffice looks snazzy, one of my requirements is that a view must be customised (possibly per-user), and a user *must* be able to get their correct view without any interaction (no mouse clicking etc.), so that this display can be used e.g. on a video wall, where no one is able to click the mouse. Any cycling of views etc. should be automated.
I have done some simple frame+js pages to do this with current hobbit (e.g. to cycle one frame between weathermap view and main view).
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
There are a number of AJAX libraries that people use with Catalyst, e.g. Prototype, Dojo, with some plugins allowing perl-ish calls in templates that
result in the correct javascript. In conjunction with View::JSON, everything
required is available ...
Maybe it's time to start collecting requirements and prototyping some stuff. I think the first thing we need is a Model::Xymon .
Regards, Buchan
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What I wrote was an asset management system with verification stages for changes and additions, history of changes included storage of previous versions etc.
-----Original Message----- From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 3:01 PM To: hobbit system monitoring Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:18:56 +1000 Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind.
Not only in my mind. I got to deliver it in next few months.
We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
My interest about Xymon and relational DB is mainly from asset inventory perspective. Xymon doing a decent jobs collecting system information(io/cpu/memory/disk). But what about a system's asset information ? where is rack position of this machine ? what is the serial number, owner, function ? and is it a owned orleased machnine ? Asset information like this are most likely kept in Excel files. Won't it be nature to tight these information together ? Xymon should be able to do both system and inventory monitoring.(ie, you got a red yellow alert if a machine's lease is expiring in 1 month).
To achieve this goal, I plan to introduce a relational DB into my Xymon server system.
Please see the details here, http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Us ing_relational_DBs_with_Xymon_Server
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Count me in. I am decent at perl programming and currently learning php/extjs/qWikiOffice.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
perl cgi script works but it is really not eye-catching. I like to stay with perl but php community is so strong. Catalyst is perl's MVC solution but it is weak on "View" part. As long as your requirement doesn't need EXTJS then Catalyst a very good solution.
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main
bb-hosts
file plus include files for each sub-page.
Can you post your perl script here ? or on http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#bb -hosts_generation
Regards
tj
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On Wednesday 01 July 2009 02:18:56 david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au wrote:
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
We don't (yet) manage our Hobbit configuration from a database, but we do have a lot of information in a configuration database that we use for asset tracking and automated deployment. We did this in Catalyst, as we get: -sessions -flexible authentication and authorization (e.g., members of some groups in LDAP are allowed to make changes, others are allowed to view all server details but make no changes, others see a limited set of details). -templating -Database ORM for very little work.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Yes.
Is there anyone willing to help?
Maybe ...
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
I would prefer a modern MVC-based framework, e.g. Catalyst. I would consider starting with an architecture that can replace the whole Xymon web interface, and have the configuration part only a small component.
For example, there should be a Xymon "Model" to get data from Xymon itself (by connecting to hobbitd to do a query or hobbitdlog or hobbitdxlog.
For now, I would pull in as many pieces of Hobbit as we can (e.g. still link to some of the CGIs), and later migrate to using native implementations (using Catalyst::View::RRDGraph)
We could also provide an API to allow 3rd-party integration (if people have other CMDBs).
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
I would consider having the configuration generation done as part of a Catalyst app ...
Regards, Buchan
That sounds pretty cool. Do you handle any other files (hobbit-alerts.cfg, etc)?
I'm not much of a db guy, but I'd say since you already have perl, I'd go that route. I've done a little php, and a lot (20 years) of perl. So I may be a bit biased.
Paul Root IM/MNS Infrastructure
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:19 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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This does sound cool. If you can, I'd love to see the current Windows implementation too.
Thanks.
Ray
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:19 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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I'd be happy to send the windows implementation, however it is very specific to our setup. Well the conversion script to bb-hosts is anyway. But the windows part is pretty stand alone.
I am not really looking to distribute a standalone access application. Rather I really want to convert the screens and logic to something a bit more open.
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From: "Storer, Raymond" <storerr at nibco.com> To: "'hobbit at hswn.dk'" <hobbit at hswn.dk> Date: 02/07/2009 01:19 AM Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
This does sound cool. If you can, I?d love to see the current Windows implementation too.
Thanks.
Ray
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:19 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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Thanks, David. I'll wait for the "more open" version. *smile* I'd be happy to help too; but, I'm not much good with Perl or PHP-both are just a hobby for me.
Ray
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 7:23 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I'd be happy to send the windows implementation, however it is very specific to our setup. Well the conversion script to bb-hosts is anyway. But the windows part is pretty stand alone.
I am not really looking to distribute a standalone access application. Rather I really want to convert the screens and logic to something a bit more open.
David Peters
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RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
This does sound cool. If you can, I'd love to see the current Windows implementation too.
Thanks.
Ray
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:19 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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ATM the db just handles bb-hosts.
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From: "Root, Paul" <Paul.Root at qwest.com> To: "'hobbit at hswn.dk'" <hobbit at hswn.dk> Date: 02/07/2009 12:25 AM Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
That sounds pretty cool. Do you handle any other files (hobbit-alerts.cfg, etc)?
I'm not much of a db guy, but I'd say since you already have perl, I'd go that route. I've done a little php, and a lot (20 years) of perl. So I may be a bit biased.
Paul Root IM/MNS Infrastructure
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:19 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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We store information on our systems in LDAP for a variety of reasons.
- Many existing applications (Postfix, Puppet) can use LDAP data
- LDAP tools are pre-installed on most systems
- It's available in most scripting environments (Shell, Python,
PHP, Perl) - The data can be viewed and edited in many ways (including plain- text)
- The data's structure is more flexible than a spreadsheet or RDBMS
- We're going to have an LDAP server anyway (for authentication)
- It's easy for people to read and gather information
- It's easy for machines and automated processes to read and gather
information
And yes, much of our bb-hosts file is generated from data in LDAP. :)
-- Rob McBroom <http://www.skurfer.com/>
From: mailinglist0 at skurfer.com To: hobbit at hswn.dk Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:44:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
We store information on our systems in LDAP for a variety of reasons.
- Many existing applications (Postfix, Puppet) can use LDAP data
- LDAP tools are pre-installed on most systems
- It's available in most scripting environments (Shell, Python, PHP, Perl)
- The data can be viewed and edited in many ways (including plain- text)
- The data's structure is more flexible than a spreadsheet or RDBMS
- We're going to have an LDAP server anyway (for authentication)
- It's easy for people to read and gather information
- It's easy for machines and automated processes to read and gather information
And yes, much of our bb-hosts file is generated from data in LDAP. :)
This reminded me one of my old prototype projects in BB era, Storing host inventory information in iPlanet ldap server.
It is doable if you control your own ldap server. Creating a LDIF subtree in corporat root LDIF could be very difficult for not technical reasion.
I think Having ldap server store both Human and Machine information at one place is cool;)
also one of my requirement is to create a cool(easy) GUI for people to update a host's information easily over the web. Currently I am fond of extjs' editor grid. it is very much like Excel's clickm,edit and update(on a real db). Not sure if EXTJS(or Jquery alike) can work with ldap db backend.
tj
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Hello,
David Peeters wrote:
(...) We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end. (...) Is there any interest in this?
Having a GUI to easily populate bb-hosts and hobbit-alerts would certainly give a great push forward to Xymon. So yes, I am 100% sure there is interest!
As a first step, I don't think we need all the neat features available in the file-based configuration, it would only be a simplified tool for sub-groups local administrators and/or users that are starting with Xymon.
T.J. Yang wrote:
a cool(easy) GUI for people to update a host's information easily over the > web. Currently I am fond of extjs' editor grid. it is very much like Excel's clickm,edit and update(on a real db).
I made some projects with this framework (http://extjs.com) and this is indeed a very good platform. And as of v2.1, it is licensed under the GPLv3 license.
Not sure if EXTJS(or Jquery alike) can work with ldap db backend.
Yes it certainly can. The front-end is using a independent "data store" that is populated on the back-end with the most suitable technology for you.
David Peeters wrote:
(...)Is there anyone willing to help?
Don't have mush time to invest in such a project but I would be very interested to be kept informed and maybe give some limited help whenever possible.
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
Apache, MySQL, PHP and ExtJS are for sure very good choices today.
Have a great day.
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david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au wrote:
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
I would definitely be interested in this - I have some modest experience with the LAMP stack, and also have some LAMP servers (ubuntu and SLES) available for testing and development.
Let me know -
Joe
The beauty of having this stuff stored in a rdbms is that management reporting for inventory, replacement cycles etc is relatively easy.
I dont understand why the default option would not be to store the data in an rdbms which underlies xymon, rather than a million other options. Take MythTV for example, mysql is the underlying source of all configuration and pointer information.
I have for example had to write reports to take data out of hobbit for management reporting on outages etc. RRDTool is great for extracting the metrics, but why would you not prefer 'Select * from' in order to generate management reports for all the other information?
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From: Joe <joe at tmsusa.com> To: hobbit at hswn.dk Date: 02/07/2009 03:50 AM Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au wrote:
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
I would definitely be interested in this - I have some modest experience with the LAMP stack, and also have some LAMP servers (ubuntu and SLES) available for testing and development.
Let me know -
Joe
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I'd be interested and would be willing to help where I can. I do some basic perl/php development with MySQL backends for my personal web sites. I'm by no means a guru, but I would DEFINITELY be willing to help implement something like this.
Brian
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:19 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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Well I have the database schema created in mysql now. I should be close to getting enough together to upload to the sourceforge server very soon now. Then anyone who wants to help can join in. Have been sick for the last coupla days (couch cough....)
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:19 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
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I'll help as much as I have time for. I am experienced with php and mysql. Learning web dev (I'm really a Solaris sysadmin, though :-). I'll watch for info on your posting. I've been away from the list for a while and I'm just catching up today. Steve.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:59 AM, David Peters <davidp at electronf.com> wrote:
Well I have the database schema created in mysql now. I should be close to getting enough together to upload to the sourceforge server very soon now. Then anyone who wants to help can join in. Have been sick for the last coupla days (couch cough....)
*From:* david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au] *Sent:* Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:19 AM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this? Is there anyone willing to help? If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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From: sholmes42 at gmail.com Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:42:51 -0400 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I'll help as much as I have time for. I am experienced with php and mysql. Learning web dev (I'm really a Solaris sysadmin, though :-).
Being a Solaris admin can help too ;) Hint, Sun's webstack for SAMP.
tj
I'll watch for info on your posting. I've been away from the list for a while and I'm just catching up today.
Steve.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:59 AM, David Peters wrote:
Well I have the database schema created in mysql now. I should be close to getting enough together to upload to the sourceforge server very soon now. Then anyone who wants to help can join in. Have been sick for the last coupla days (couch cough....)
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:19 AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Is there anyone willing to help?
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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I have decided to use mysql and php. I have an initial host page design up and running although the code is automatically generated from a form generator at the moment.
David Peters
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From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> To: hobbit system monitoring <hobbit at hswn.dk> Date: 10/07/2009 05:06 AM Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
From: sholmes42 at gmail.com Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:42:51 -0400 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I'll help as much as I have time for. I am experienced with php and mysql. Learning web dev (I'm really a Solaris sysadmin, though :-).
Being a Solaris admin can help too ;) Hint, Sun's webstack for SAMP.
tj
I'll watch for info on your posting. I've been away from the list for a while and I'm just catching up today.
Steve.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:59 AM, David Peters wrote:
Well I have the database schema created in mysql now. I should be close to getting enough together to upload to the sourceforge server very soon now. Then anyone who wants to help can join in. Have been sick for the last coupla days (couch cough....)
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:19 AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Is there anyone willing to help?
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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+61 4 17863572
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Still sick. Something should get put up soon.
David Peters
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From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au To: hobbit at hswn.dk Date: 10/07/2009 09:25 AM Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I have decided to use mysql and php. I have an initial host page design up and running although the code is automatically generated from a form generator at the moment.
David Peters
+61 2 63913565 +61 4 17863572
From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> To: hobbit system monitoring <hobbit at hswn.dk> Date: 10/07/2009 05:06 AM Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
From: sholmes42 at gmail.com Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:42:51 -0400 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I'll help as much as I have time for. I am experienced with php and mysql. Learning web dev (I'm really a Solaris sysadmin, though :-).
Being a Solaris admin can help too ;) Hint, Sun's webstack for SAMP.
tj
I'll watch for info on your posting. I've been away from the list for a while and I'm just catching up today.
Steve.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:59 AM, David Peters wrote:
Well I have the database schema created in mysql now. I should be close to getting enough together to upload to the sourceforge server very soon now. Then anyone who wants to help can join in. Have been sick for the last coupla days (couch cough....)
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au [mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:19 AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is there any interest in this?
Is there anyone willing to help?
If so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on this?
We have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location, and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
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+61 4 17863572
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To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:12:14 +1000 Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Still sick. Something should get put up soon.
Hey, David
I am currently using SCM software(RCS) to manage bb-hosts and other configuration files. Do you know if there is a way to implement rollback of change operations on bb-hosts* files in MySQL/PHP ?
This is my only concern for switching to MySQLTABLE_TO_BBHOST type of architecture.
I created this URL, trying to capture this email threads into formal doc. Please document your work there if you can/interested.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Us...
Did you check out qWikiOffice since you are a PHP person ? I am dreaming(since I know little php currently) to port qWikiOffice or TomatoCart's admin tool to xymon server.
Please take care, I need your php skill to help/work on xymon dashboard.
tj
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Date: 10/07/2009 09:25 AM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I have decided to use mysql and php. I have an initial host page design up and running although the code is automatically generated from a form generator at the moment.
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
From:
"T.J. Yang"
To:
hobbit system monitoring
Date:
10/07/2009 05:06 AM
Subject:
RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
From: sholmes42 at gmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:42:51 -0400
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I'll help as much as I have time for. I am experienced with php and mysql. Learning web dev (I'm really a Solaris sysadmin, though :-).
Being a Solaris admin can help too ;)
Hint, Sun's webstack for SAMP.
tj
I'll watch for info on your posting. I've been away from the list for a while and I'm just catching up today.
Steve.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:59 AM, David Peters wrote:
Well I have the database schema created in
mysql now. I should be close to getting enough together to upload to the
sourceforge server very soon now. Then anyone who wants to help can join in.
Have been sick for the last coupla days (couch cough....)
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au
[mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:19
AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts
database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is
still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows
database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting
the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would
not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The
point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts
and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is
there any interest in this?
Is
there anyone willing to help?
If
so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on
this?
We
have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location,
and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently
the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then
generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
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Do you wish to rise? Begin by descending. You plan a tower that will pierce the clouds? Lay first the foundation of humility. -St. Augustine (354-430)
Truth never damages a cause that is just. -Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (1869-1948)
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The application we currently use and the porting I am looking to do, saves a copy of any record when it is changed so that you can go back to a previous version. It stores info about the change etc.
David Peters
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From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> To: hobbit system monitoring <hobbit at hswn.dk> Date: 14/07/2009 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
To: hobbit at hswn.dk From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 08:12:14 +1000 Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
Still sick. Something should get put up soon.
Hey, David
I am currently using SCM software(RCS) to manage bb-hosts and other configuration files. Do you know if there is a way to implement rollback of change operations on bb-hosts* files in MySQL/PHP ?
This is my only concern for switching to MySQLTABLE_TO_BBHOST type of architecture.
I created this URL, trying to capture this email threads into formal doc. Please document your work there if you can/interested.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Us...
Did you check out qWikiOffice since you are a PHP person ? I am dreaming(since I know little php currently) to port qWikiOffice or TomatoCart's admin tool to xymon server.
Please take care, I need your php skill to help/work on xymon dashboard.
tj
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Date: 10/07/2009 09:25 AM
Subject: RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I have decided to use mysql and php. I have an initial host page design up and running although the code is automatically generated from a form generator at the moment.
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
From:
"T.J. Yang"
To:
hobbit system monitoring
Date:
10/07/2009 05:06 AM
Subject:
RE: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
From: sholmes42 at gmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:42:51 -0400
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon hosts database.
I'll help as much as I have time for. I am experienced with php and mysql. Learning web dev (I'm really a Solaris sysadmin, though :-).
Being a Solaris admin can help too ;)
Hint, Sun's webstack for SAMP.
tj
I'll watch for info on your posting. I've been away from the list for a while and I'm just catching up today.
Steve.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:59 AM, David Peters wrote:
Well I have the database schema created in
mysql now. I should be close to getting enough together to upload to the
sourceforge server very soon now. Then anyone who wants to help can join in.
Have been sick for the last coupla days (couch cough....)
From: david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au
[mailto:david.peters at dpi.nsw.gov.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 July 2009 10:19
AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: [hobbit] Xymon hosts
database.
I think I have posted this quite a while ago but it is
still on my mind. We currently configure the hosts, pages etc using a windows
database and windows front end that I wrote quite some time ago. I keep getting
the urge to convert it to a linux database and a web frontend. However I would
not do this if there is no interest in using it.
The
point is that you never touch the bb-hosts file and all configuration of hosts
and layouts is done via a user interface.
Is
there any interest in this?
Is
there anyone willing to help?
If
so I was going to convert to mysql and either php or perl cgi. Any comments on
this?
We
have 400 odd hosts here and have pages split by priority, service, location,
and support group all on the front page but all configured via the database.
Currently
the bb-hosts is built via a perl script that extracts the database and then
generates a main bb-hosts file plus include files for each sub-page.
David Peters
+61 2 63913565
+61 4 17863572
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confidential
information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, and are not necessarily the views of their organisation.
--
Do you wish to rise? Begin by descending. You plan a tower that will pierce the clouds? Lay first the foundation of humility. -St. Augustine (354-430)
Truth never damages a cause that is just. -Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (1869-1948)
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bgmilne＠staff.telkomsa.net
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Brian-Bouchard＠idexx.com
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david.peters＠dpi.nsw.gov.au
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davidp＠electronf.com
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Gaetan.Frenoy＠solvay.com
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joe＠tmsusa.com
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martin.flemming＠desy.de
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Martin.Ward＠colt.net
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Paul.Root＠qwest.com
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sholmes42＠gmail.com
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storerr＠nibco.com
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tj_yang＠hotmail.com