Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Hello All, I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors. Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues. Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues. Please Help! Sam.
On Thu, August 21, 2014 12:29 am, Sam Robert wrote:
Hello All, I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Hi there! Welcome to the club :)
On RHEL7, c-ares-devel, rrdtool-devel and selinux-policy-doc are all in the rhel-7-server-optional-rpms channel; you may need to add that using subscription-manager to install. If you're unable to add that channel into the Red Hat entitlement, you should also be able to use the CentOS 7 versions in a pinch: http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Hmm. If you're installing from the base release tarball, it should be using c-ares 1.7.3 (which is locally included). What errors are you seeing when compiling?
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Indeed, there are a number of different ways of configuring xymon "out of the box", which is great for using it as a monitoring toolkit, but can make it confusing at times when just starting out.
If you'd like a more "FHS"-y layout which might help in just getting an install going, there are RHEL7 RPMs at http://terabithia.org/rpms/xymon/testing/el7/x86_64/ that may be useful.
HTH,
-jc
Thank you for the prompt reply. I'll go ahead and try the subscription-manager method to see if it will work. I have tried the CentOS 7 packages for C-Ares and although that the RPMs install fine, Xymon configure still throws a fit about not finding ares.h - Don't even get me started on rrdtool-devel. It's been such a pain for the past couple of days and I am still not ready to give up. Regarding the Xymon bundled c-ares, that's what configure says that it either cant find local c-ares or there is something wrong with it and it will use the bundled c-ares. I just don't like errors when configuring so was trying to resolve it. Also can you expand a little bit further on the Xymon RPMs you suggested? Meaning it will just install a default version without any issues? Where would I go look for things, meaning installdir's etc? Thank you. Sam.
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 04:37:08 -0700 Subject: Re: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues From: cleaver at terabithia.org To: sam.robert at outlook.com CC: xymon at xymon.com
On Thu, August 21, 2014 12:29 am, Sam Robert wrote:
Hello All, I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Hi there! Welcome to the club :)
On RHEL7, c-ares-devel, rrdtool-devel and selinux-policy-doc are all in the rhel-7-server-optional-rpms channel; you may need to add that using subscription-manager to install. If you're unable to add that channel into the Red Hat entitlement, you should also be able to use the CentOS 7 versions in a pinch: http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/7/os/x86_64/Packages/
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Hmm. If you're installing from the base release tarball, it should be using c-ares 1.7.3 (which is locally included). What errors are you seeing when compiling?
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Indeed, there are a number of different ways of configuring xymon "out of the box", which is great for using it as a monitoring toolkit, but can make it confusing at times when just starting out.
If you'd like a more "FHS"-y layout which might help in just getting an install going, there are RHEL7 RPMs at http://terabithia.org/rpms/xymon/testing/el7/x86_64/ that may be useful.
HTH,
-jc
What's wrong with "yum install rrdtool-devel"?
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Sam Robert Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:29 AM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Hello All,
I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Please Help!
Sam.
It says "yum no package rrdtool available" on a default instance of RHEL on Amazon AWS. Also, RRDTool is the one I am having the most trouble with on each distro. I have tried it on RHEL, Suse, Ubuntu & Amazon Linux. On each it's either not available or if it's available always has issues installing whether its the dependencies that are suddenly missing or something else. Didn't have any idea it was going to be so difficult to install RRDTool. Oh and where I used the YUM install, Xymon configure started throwing fits about not finding either RRDTool 1.0 or 1.2.
From: Paul.Root at CenturyLink.com To: sam.robert at outlook.com; xymon at xymon.com Subject: RE: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:25:04 +0000
What’s wrong with “yum install rrdtool-devel”?
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Sam Robert
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:29 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Hello All,
I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Please Help!
Sam.
Have you changed the repos at all? You might install RPMforge for it and many other great packages.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 21, 2014 1:41 PM, "Sam Robert" <sam.robert at outlook.com> wrote:
It says "yum no package rrdtool available" on a default instance of RHEL on Amazon AWS. Also, RRDTool is the one I am having the most trouble with on each distro. I have tried it on RHEL, Suse, Ubuntu & Amazon Linux. On each it's either not available or if it's available always has issues installing whether its the dependencies that are suddenly missing or something else. Didn't have any idea it was going to be so difficult to install RRDTool. Oh and where I used the YUM install, Xymon configure started throwing fits about not finding either RRDTool 1.0 or 1.2.
From: Paul.Root at CenturyLink.com To: sam.robert at outlook.com; xymon at xymon.com Subject: RE: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:25:04 +0000
What’s wrong with “yum install rrdtool-devel”?
*From:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Robert *Sent:* Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:29 AM *To:* xymon at xymon.com *Subject:* [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Hello All,
I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Please Help!
Sam.
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Yes. That's how I was eventually able to install rrdtool. There's just no other way that it would work.
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:55:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues From: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com To: sam.robert at outlook.com CC: paul.root at centurylink.com; xymon at xymon.com
Have you changed the repos at all? You might install RPMforge for it and many other great packages. Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 21, 2014 1:41 PM, "Sam Robert" <sam.robert at outlook.com> wrote:
It says "yum no package rrdtool available" on a default instance of RHEL on Amazon AWS. Also, RRDTool is the one I am having the most trouble with on each distro. I have tried it on RHEL, Suse, Ubuntu & Amazon Linux. On each it's either not available or if it's available always has issues installing whether its the dependencies that are suddenly missing or something else. Didn't have any idea it was going to be so difficult to install RRDTool. Oh and where I used the YUM install, Xymon configure started throwing fits about not finding either RRDTool 1.0 or 1.2.
From: Paul.Root at CenturyLink.com To: sam.robert at outlook.com; xymon at xymon.com Subject: RE: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:25:04 +0000
What’s wrong with “yum install rrdtool-devel”?
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Sam Robert
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:29 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Hello All,
I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Please Help!
Sam.
Xymon mailing list
Xymon at xymon.com
Are you perhaps not realizing that for some of these you need the -devel packages not just the actual packages. Requiring header files is a common giveaway.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 21, 2014, at 14:09, "Sam Robert" <sam.robert at outlook.com<mailto:sam.robert at outlook.com>> wrote:
Yes. That's how I was eventually able to install rrdtool. There's just no other way that it would work.
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:55:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues From: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com> To: sam.robert at outlook.com<mailto:sam.robert at outlook.com> CC: paul.root at centurylink.com<mailto:paul.root at centurylink.com>; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>
Have you changed the repos at all? You might install RPMforge for it and many other great packages.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
On Aug 21, 2014 1:41 PM, "Sam Robert" <sam.robert at outlook.com<mailto:sam.robert at outlook.com>> wrote: It says "yum no package rrdtool available" on a default instance of RHEL on Amazon AWS. Also, RRDTool is the one I am having the most trouble with on each distro. I have tried it on RHEL, Suse, Ubuntu & Amazon Linux. On each it's either not available or if it's available always has issues installing whether its the dependencies that are suddenly missing or something else. Didn't have any idea it was going to be so difficult to install RRDTool. Oh and where I used the YUM install, Xymon configure started throwing fits about not finding either RRDTool 1.0 or 1.2.
From: Paul.Root at CenturyLink.com<mailto:Paul.Root at CenturyLink.com> To: sam.robert at outlook.com<mailto:sam.robert at outlook.com>; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Subject: RE: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:25:04 +0000
What’s wrong with “yum install rrdtool-devel”?
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] On Behalf Of Sam Robert Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:29 AM To: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Subject: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Hello All,
I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Please Help!
Sam.
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com<mailto:Xymon at xymon.com> http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com<mailto:Xymon at xymon.com> http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
The number of times that I have re-installed this over and over again made me realize that fact :) Every time that configure would throw up errors it was looking for a header file and figured out all those header files were in the devel packages. But like someone suggested, RHEL by itself does not have all the packages at least in its base install and you need to go look elsewhere (RPMforge) or other places (CentOS Packages) etc to get what you need and that's what was throwing me off constantly. I just got very detailed instructions for Ubuntu and am in the process of implementing that to see if that works. I'll take any distro as long as I can get Xymon to work. From what I have seen so far, Xymon indeed appears to be the best in its class so will do whatever it takes to get it going. Thank you for the answers. Appreciate all the help. Sam.
From: novosirj at ca.rutgers.edu To: sam.robert at outlook.com CC: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com; xymon at xymon.com Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:03:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Are you perhaps not realizing that for some of these you need the -devel packages not just the actual packages. Requiring header files is a common giveaway.
Sent from my iPhone On Aug 21, 2014, at 14:09, "Sam Robert" <sam.robert at outlook.com> wrote:
Yes. That's how I was eventually able to install rrdtool. There's just no other way that it would work.
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:55:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues From: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com To: sam.robert at outlook.com CC: paul.root at centurylink.com; xymon at xymon.com
Have you changed the repos at all? You might install RPMforge for it and many other great packages. Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 21, 2014 1:41 PM, "Sam Robert" <sam.robert at outlook.com> wrote:
It says "yum no package rrdtool available" on a default instance of RHEL on Amazon AWS. Also, RRDTool is the one I am having the most trouble with on each distro. I have tried it on RHEL, Suse, Ubuntu & Amazon Linux. On each it's either not available or if it's available always has issues installing whether its the dependencies that are suddenly missing or something else. Didn't have any idea it was going to be so difficult to install RRDTool. Oh and where I used the YUM install, Xymon configure started throwing fits about not finding either RRDTool 1.0 or 1.2.
From: Paul.Root at CenturyLink.com To: sam.robert at outlook.com; xymon at xymon.com Subject: RE: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:25:04 +0000
What’s wrong with “yum install rrdtool-devel”?
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Sam Robert
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 2:29 AM
To: xymon at xymon.com
Subject: [Xymon] Xymon Newbie - Installation Issues
Hello All,
I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Please Help!
Sam.
Xymon mailing list
Xymon at xymon.com
http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Sam, attached is detailed instructions that I wrote not long ago. I have a Xymon server on AWS using Ubuntu that runs well. It took a bit to get it working smooth, but once I ironed out my issues it's been running for about a year now. I did have an AWS crash last year and had to rebuild it once, so I'd suggest keeping detailed instructions, notes, and backups (obviously) for future reference just in case you need to rebuild for whatever reason. I see from the posts that you're leaning towards Redhat, so I hope I don't completely sidetrack you here with Ubuntu. I hope this helps you out. :-) Signature - Kris
Thank you.
Kris Springer
On 8/21/2014 12:29 AM, Sam Robert wrote:
Hello All,
I am a Linux and Xymon newbie to begin with so please go easy on me. Found Xymon in my search for a simple yet powerful network monitor and love what I have seen so far. However I cant seem to get it installed properly no matter what. So far I have tried all instances of Linux over at AWS and so far the best with the least amount of errors is Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7.0 - Even on that, the RRDTOOL-DEVEL is nowhere to be found and after spending half a day found the rpm at REPOFORGE and installed from there and the ./configure seemed happy with it. However no matter what I do, I could not find C-ARES-DEVEL to install and the RPM I found gave constant errors.
Anyhow, my question is what to do with the C-ARES error or the ARES.H errors on configure. Let them be or how can I install them properly? Also after the installation how do I configure APACHE as on other distros I could never get the XYMON page to come up because of a different www folder and each distro has its own issues.
Does anybody know of a complete guide or tutorial for newbies using which I can get Xymon to work? I have followed almost 8 to 10 different Xymon articles for different distros and could not get any to work because of the versions difference and other issues.
Please Help!
Sam.
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
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