Hi all,
Will a BBLOCATION tag prevent a defined BBPAGER from paging on all hosts regardless of location tags ?
BR Thomas
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Thomas wrote:
Will a BBLOCATION tag prevent a defined BBPAGER from paging on all hosts regardless of location tags ?
Not sure if I understand what you mean.
BBLOCATION is only used when doing network tests. It's used to split network tests among multiple Hobbit servers - each Hobbit server only tests those hosts that have a matching NET:$BBLOCATION in the bb-hosts file.
BBPAGER is not used at all by Hobbit...
Henrik
Sorry I didn't give clear info. I am running a mixed environment. Having a BB/bbgen server doing /BBPAGER/BBNET (localtion1) and a hobbit server doing BBNET (location2). Untill I fully migrate I want my BB server to page for all hosts tested from both the BB and hobbit server.
When I look at the info page it shows me what I want my the paging is not happening. Only for hosts with the same NET tag is paged for.
Thomas
Henrik Stoerner wrote:
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:15:27AM +0200, Thomas wrote:
Will a BBLOCATION tag prevent a defined BBPAGER from paging on all hosts regardless of location tags ?
Not sure if I understand what you mean.
BBLOCATION is only used when doing network tests. It's used to split network tests among multiple Hobbit servers - each Hobbit server only tests those hosts that have a matching NET:$BBLOCATION in the bb-hosts file.
BBPAGER is not used at all by Hobbit...
Henrik
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:41:43AM +0200, Thomas wrote:
Sorry I didn't give clear info. I am running a mixed environment. Having a BB/bbgen server doing /BBPAGER/BBNET (localtion1) and a hobbit server doing BBNET (location2). Untill I fully migrate I want my BB server to page for all hosts tested from both the BB and hobbit server.
When I look at the info page it shows me what I want my the paging is not happening. Only for hosts with the same NET tag is paged for.
A Hobbit server running the network test tools doesn't generate the "page" messages that a BB server need to start generating alerts. (Since a Hobbit server would just discard those messages, there's no point in the Hobbit network test server to spend time generating them).
So what you want is just not possible.
Regards, Henrik
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done
on setting up fail over servers?
I got my server back and backed up all my custom and config files so I
can now reproduce my setup.
But a true fail over server is needed.
Next I just added 87 clients as a test. I may want to remove them. Yes
I CAN write a script to do the drop and
Im not worried about editing the bb-host file, but maybe the the
enable/disable gui could be extended to include
a drop feature or a separate GUI? Im not one for GUIs but others will
be admining this too.
Disk test be nice all three number could be put in a graph: $ /usr/bin/df -Pk Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/vg00/lvol4 19532 5183 14349 27% /home00
Some one ask about having required fs , what the status on this.
There is an old unix program out there called Watcher. One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes. Like a FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G . (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
How about move or duplicating the tip: What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ? on the web page in the head or footer ?
Took me a while to find it. These are a BIG selling point for hobbit; visual impaired and color blind people are provided for! Big issue for large corps!
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In <432AAC9D.1070008 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done
on setting up fail over servers? I got my server back and backed up all my custom and config files so I can now reproduce my setup. But a true fail over server is needed.
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server, and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare box.
Next I just added 87 clients as a test. I may want to remove them. Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and Im not worried about editing the bb-host file, but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include a drop feature or a separate GUI? Im not one for GUIs but others will
be admining this too.
It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to implement it.
Disk test be nice all three number could be put in a graph: $ /usr/bin/df -Pk Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/vg00/lvol4 19532 5183 14349 27% /home00
The "used" and "Capacity" columns are currently tracked. Do you want to track the "Available" count also ? It *can* be done by a bit of math in the graph definition.
Some one ask about having required fs , what the status on this.
It's in 4.1.2.
There is an old unix program out there called Watcher. One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes. Like a FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G . (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.
How about move or duplicating the tip: What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ? on the web page in the head or footer ?
Took me a while to find it. These are a BIG selling point for hobbit; visual impaired and color blind people are provided for! Big issue for large corps!
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to customize the templates any way you like :-)
Regards, Henrik
Henrik Storner wrote:
In <432AAC9D.1070008 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done
on setting up fail over servers? I got my server back and backed up all my custom and config files so I can now reproduce my setup. But a true fail over server is needed.The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server, and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare box.
Well no rsync for hp-ux 11. I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server. Ive a sun but I don't think the rrds would work . Anyone know if this is so?
Next I just added 87 clients as a test. I may want to remove them. Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and Im not worried about editing the bb-host file, but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include a drop feature or a separate GUI? Im not one for GUIs but others will
be admining this too.It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to implement it.
Great! in 4.1.2 ?
Disk test be nice all three number could be put in a graph: $ /usr/bin/df -Pk Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/vg00/lvol4 19532 5183 14349 27% /home00
The "used" and "Capacity" columns are currently tracked. Do you want to track the "Available" count also ? It *can* be done by a bit of math in the graph definition.
Yes, for disk1 type graphs , actually maybe a "new" disk2 type that would graphs all three per FS . Its a management pleaser thing.
Some one ask about having required fs , what the status on this.
It's in 4.1.2.
There is an old unix program out there called Watcher. One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes. Like a FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G . (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.
OK . It IS useful . Here is the link to watcher :
http://www.i-pi.com/watcher.html
How about move or duplicating the tip: What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ? on the web page in the head or footer ?
Took me a while to find it. These are a BIG selling point for hobbit; visual impaired and color blind people are provided for! Big issue for large corps!
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to customize the templates any way you like :-)
Fair enough. But how as a separate help item ; legend . I would
prefer if to be in there header, click on it and it display the page.
IM ALWAYS ask what they are.
Regards, Henrik
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In <433A97A3.5070309 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
Henrik Storner wrote:
In <432AAC9D.1070008 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done
on setting up fail over servers?The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server, and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare box.
Well no rsync for hp-ux 11. I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX, I'd think you could also compile rsync.
Ive a sun but I don't think the rrds would work . Anyone know if this is so?
Probably not, you would have to do a dump/import of each RRD file. Anyway, the reason I suggested that you should copy over the RRD files was just to keep your historical trends data. If you can live without that - and just need to get monitoring up and running ASAP - then ignore the RRD files.
Next I just added 87 clients as a test. I may want to remove them. Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and Im not worried about editing the bb-host file, but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include a drop feature or a separate GUI? Im not one for GUIs but others will
be admining this too.It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to implement it.
Great! in 4.1.2 ?
Nope. 4.1.2 is in "feature-freeze".
There is an old unix program out there called Watcher. One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes. Like a FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G . (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.
OK . It IS useful . Here is the link to watcher :
http://www.i-pi.com/watcher.html
Thanks, I tried google'ing it but couldn't find it.
How about move or duplicating the tip: What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ? on the web page in the head or footer ?
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to customize the templates any way you like :-)
Fair enough. But how as a separate help item ; legend . I would prefer if to be in there header, click on it and it display the page.
IM ALWAYS ask what they are.
Add an entry to your ~hobbit/server/www/menu/menu_items.js file, like
['Hobbit Icons', '/hobbit/help/hobbit-tips.html#icons'],Henrik
rsync requires python to build; also not on hp 11 ; python has a host of dependencies.
A dump/import of each RRD file? Ill have to look at that;I may every thing to sun systems! Right now Ive done as you said, just coping the etc files; ready to fire up if the main server goes.
Yes! the menu_items.js is perfect !
Henrik Storner wrote:
In <433A97A3.5070309 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
Henrik Storner wrote:
In <432AAC9D.1070008 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done
on setting up fail over servers?The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server, and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare box.
Well no rsync for hp-ux 11. I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX, I'd think you could also compile rsync.
Ive a sun but I don't think the rrds would work . Anyone know if this is so?
Probably not, you would have to do a. A dump/import of each RRD filenyway, the reason I suggested that you should copy over the RRD files was just to keep your historical trends data. If you can live without that - and just need to get monitoring up and running ASAP - then ignore the RRD files.
Next I just added 87 clients as a test. I may want to remove them. Yes I CAN write a script to do the drop and Im not worried about editing the bb-host file, but maybe the the enable/disable gui could be extended to include a drop feature or a separate GUI? Im not one for GUIs but others will
be admining this too.It's a "nice to have" thing. Not difficult, just need a day or two to implement it.
Great! in 4.1.2 ?
Nope. 4.1.2 is in "feature-freeze".
There is an old unix program out there called Watcher. One nice feature was it alerted you to large changes. Like a FS grew or decreased by 5% or 1G . (Or decreased by 100% ;rm -rf *!!
Could be useful, but I'll leave that for later.
OK . It IS useful . Here is the link to watcher :
http://www.i-pi.com/watcher.htmlThanks, I tried google'ing it but couldn't find it.
How about move or duplicating the tip: What do the little red/yellow/green icons mean ? on the web page in the head or footer ?
I prefer to keep the pages as clean as possible, but feel free to customize the templates any way you like :-)
Fair enough. But how as a separate help item ; legend . I would prefer if to be in there header, click on it and it display the page.
IM ALWAYS ask what they are.Add an entry to your ~hobbit/server/www/menu/menu_items.js file, like
['Hobbit Icons', '/hobbit/help/hobbit-tips.html#icons'],
Henrik
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On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 10:37:52AM -0400, Michael Nemeth wrote:
rsync requires python to build; also not on hp 11 ; python has a host of dependencies.
Really ?? I just built rsync 2.6.6 from rsync.samba.org - doesn't seem to require python at all (I did a "chmod 000 /usr/bin/python" first).
A dump/import of each RRD file? Ill have to look at that;I may every thing to sun systems!
It's basically "rrdtool dump somefile.rrd >somefile.xml", then copy the xml file over and do "rrdtool restore somefile.xml somefile.rrd".
Regards, Henrik
Well that's what the HP porting site claims ! But with the addtional build of the popt library and one ifdef fix it did compile; I have not tested it yet but Thanks.
Looks like I could script this rrdtool dump. So many a hp to sun mirror would work for me!
Henrik Stoerner wrote:
On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 10:37:52AM -0400, Michael Nemeth wrote:
rsync requires python to build; also not on hp 11 ; python has a host of dependencies.
Really ?? I just built rsync 2.6.6 from rsync.samba.org - doesn't seem to require python at all (I did a "chmod 000 /usr/bin/python" first).
A dump/import of each RRD file? Ill have to look at that;I may every thing to sun systems!
It's basically "rrdtool dump somefile.rrd >somefile.xml", then copy the xml file over and do "rrdtool restore somefile.xml somefile.rrd".
Regards, Henrik
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On 9/28/05, Henrik Storner <henrik at hswn.dk> wrote:
In <433A97A3.5070309 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
Henrik Storner wrote:
In <432AAC9D.1070008 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done on setting up fail over servers?
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server, and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare box.
Well no rsync for hp-ux 11. I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX, I'd think you could also compile rsync.
Yes, rsync _should_ compile on hp-ux, but I can't confirm. However, I use the depot package from here:
http://gatekeep.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Networking/Admin/rsync-2.6.6/
I am running:
HP-UX presap B.11.11 U 9000/785
Once you have it installed all you'd need to do is sync the important files (bb-hosts, etc) like Henrik said. I use a combination of rdist and rsync to push my bb/hobbit configuration around to 90+ hosts(linux, solaris, hpux, bsd), and it works well.
-Dan
We don't have ANY hpux 11.11 system! Thats the problem.! Lots more come with/for 11.11!
Dan Vande More wrote:
On 9/28/05, Henrik Storner <henrik at hswn.dk> wrote:
In <433A97A3.5070309 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
Henrik Storner wrote:
In <432AAC9D.1070008 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done on setting up fail over servers?
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server, and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare box.
Well no rsync for hp-ux 11. I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX, I'd think you could also compile rsync.
Yes, rsync _should_ compile on hp-ux, but I can't confirm. However, I use the depot package from here:
http://gatekeep.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Networking/Admin/rsync-2.6.6/
I am running:
HP-UX presap B.11.11 U 9000/785
Once you have it installed all you'd need to do is sync the important files (bb-hosts, etc) like Henrik said. I use a combination of rdist and rsync to push my bb/hobbit configuration around to 90+ hosts(linux, solaris, hpux, bsd), and it works well.
-Dan
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Oh, whoops, my apologies. I not big into HPUX, so I wasn't aware that 11 != 11.11, I thought they were mostly the same. On a related note, I know that I was not able to get rdist to compile on this sucker. What I ended up doing for a few things on my HPUX machine was scp'ing, which, fortunately, still works.
-Dan
On 9/28/05, Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> wrote:
We don't have ANY hpux 11.11 system! Thats the problem.! Lots more come with/for 11.11!
Dan Vande More wrote:
On 9/28/05, Henrik Storner <henrik at hswn.dk> wrote:
In <433A97A3.5070309 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
Henrik Storner wrote:
In <432AAC9D.1070008 at lmco.com> Michael Nemeth <michael.nemeth at lmco.com> writes:
I complete lost my hobbit server for a day. Is there any work done on setting up fail over servers?
The simplest solution: Setup a server identical to your Hobbit server, and rsync the server/etc/ and data/{hist,rrd,tmp} periodically from your main server. If the main server dies, start Hobbit on the spare box.
Well no rsync for hp-ux 11. I might be able to rcp/scp . I don't have another HP set up as a server identical to my Hobbit server.
rsync is reasonably portable. If you could compile Hobbit on HP-UX, I'd think you could also compile rsync.
Yes, rsync _should_ compile on hp-ux, but I can't confirm. However, I use the depot package from here:
http://gatekeep.cs.utah.edu/hppd/hpux/Networking/Admin/rsync-2.6.6/
I am running:
HP-UX presap B.11.11 U 9000/785
Once you have it installed all you'd need to do is sync the important files (bb-hosts, etc) like Henrik said. I use a combination of rdist and rsync to push my bb/hobbit configuration around to 90+ hosts(linux, solaris, hpux, bsd), and it works well.
-Dan
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