Is there a way to get a historical trend view?
Typical monday situation, I came to work to find a host down, but it happened more than 48 hours ago. Would be nice if there was a way to get trends view for previous periods :)
-- Kolbjørn Barmen UNINETT Driftsenter
If you mean the graphical trends, you get previous periods by clicking on the graph.
Regards Lars
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kolbjørn Barmen" <kolbjorn.barmen at uninett.no> To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:02 AM Subject: [hobbit] Historical trends?
Is there a way to get a historical trend view?
Typical monday situation, I came to work to find a host down, but it happened more than 48 hours ago. Would be nice if there was a way to get trends view for previous periods :)
-- Kolbjørn Barmen UNINETT Driftsenter
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On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, lars ebeling wrote:
If you mean the graphical trends, you get previous periods by clicking on the graph.
Almost - when you do that you dont get trends, you get previous periods for that test. I'm looking for a way to watch get a trends view with all the tests from the trends page, but from a different period.
-- Kolbjørn Barmen UNINETT Driftsenter
Yes, I'd like to request the same feature.
From the "trends" page, be able to change the period view with links at the top of the page:
Daily - Current Default, Weekly,Monthly,Quarterly
Being able to see all the services for longer period of times together can be useful for troubleshooting and event correlation.
Scott
On 3/12/07, Kolbjørn Barmen <kolbjorn.barmen at uninett.no> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, lars ebeling wrote:
If you mean the graphical trends, you get previous periods by clicking on the graph.
Almost - when you do that you dont get trends, you get previous periods for that test. I'm looking for a way to watch get a trends view with all the tests from the trends page, but from a different period.
-- Kolbjørn Barmen UNINETT Driftsenter
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KolbjC8rn Barmen wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, lars ebeling wrote:
If you mean the graphical trends, you get previous periods by clicking on the graph.
Almost - when you do that you dont get trends, you get previous periods for that test. I'm looking for a way to watch get a trends view with all the tests from the trends page, but from a different period.
You can almost get what you want from the metrics report. It allows you to choose a system and a time frame, but will not display all graphs for a system. It would be a useful feature to do what you are asking for.
John
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:11:22PM +0100, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, lars ebeling wrote:
If you mean the graphical trends, you get previous periods by clicking on the graph.
Almost - when you do that you dont get trends, you get previous periods for that test. I'm looking for a way to watch get a trends view with all the tests from the trends page, but from a different period.
I started doing this yesterday, thinking it would be a simple task ... well, it was a bit more complicated than I thought. But I think it's working now - unfortunately, it is also mixed in with some of the other changes that have happened since 4.2.0.
So I won't make a patch against 4.2.0, but if you really want it then you can grab the current snapshot and build it, then copy the web/hobbitsvc.cgi to ~hobbit/server/bin/ and hobbitd/webfiles/trends_form to the ~hobbit/server/web/ directory.
This has a small form at the top of the "trends" page where you can pick how much time the graphs should cover. The default is 48 hours (as before), but you can change that by setting TRENDSECONDS in hobbitserver.cfg - as the name implies, it is in seconds.
The form layout on the trends page will probably change a bit, perhaps to some drop-down boxes.
Regards, Henrik
Greetings,
This feature sounds very cool. When I attempt to compile the snapshot I receive the following error:
gcc -g -O -Wall -Wno-unused -D_REENTRANT -DBIND_8_COMPAT=1 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DDarwin -I. -I/Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include -I/opt/local/include -I. -I../include -c -o acklog.o acklog.c In file included from /Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include/libbbgen.h:69, from acklog.c:28: /Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include/../lib/msort.h:17: error: conflicting types for 'mergesort' /usr/include/stdlib.h:288: error: previous declaration of 'mergesort' was here acklog.c: In function 'do_acklog': acklog.c:119: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of 'nldecode' differ in signedness make[1]: *** [acklog.o] Error 1 make: *** [lib-build] Error 2
The referenced line from stdlib is:
int mergesort(void *, size_t, size_t, int (*)(const void *, const void *));
Thanks,
Mike
On 3/13/07 1:20 PM, "Henrik Stoerner" <henrik at hswn.dk> wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:11:22PM +0100, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, lars ebeling wrote:
If you mean the graphical trends, you get previous periods by clicking on the graph.
Almost - when you do that you dont get trends, you get previous periods for that test. I'm looking for a way to watch get a trends view with all the tests from the trends page, but from a different period.
I started doing this yesterday, thinking it would be a simple task ... well, it was a bit more complicated than I thought. But I think it's working now - unfortunately, it is also mixed in with some of the other changes that have happened since 4.2.0.
So I won't make a patch against 4.2.0, but if you really want it then you can grab the current snapshot and build it, then copy the web/hobbitsvc.cgi to ~hobbit/server/bin/ and hobbitd/webfiles/trends_form to the ~hobbit/server/web/ directory.
This has a small form at the top of the "trends" page where you can pick how much time the graphs should cover. The default is 48 hours (as before), but you can change that by setting TRENDSECONDS in hobbitserver.cfg - as the name implies, it is in seconds.
The form layout on the trends page will probably change a bit, perhaps to some drop-down boxes.
Regards, Henrik
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On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:01:15PM -0400, Michael Dunne wrote:
This feature sounds very cool. When I attempt to compile the snapshot I receive the following error:
gcc -g -O -Wall -Wno-unused -D_REENTRANT -DBIND_8_COMPAT=1 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DDarwin -I. -I/Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include -I/opt/local/include -I. -I../include -c -o acklog.o acklog.c In file included from /Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include/libbbgen.h:69, from acklog.c:28: /Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include/../lib/msort.h:17: error: conflicting types for 'mergesort' /usr/include/stdlib.h:288: error: previous declaration of 'mergesort' was here
Why must OSX always pick the same names for things that I want to use ???
Oh well ... I'll rename my mergesort() routine to "msort" and see if that works better.
Regards, Henrik
Henrik,
The latest snapshot compiles and runs nicely. Thanks for making the change, and thanks again for Hobbit.
Mike
On 3/13/07 5:03 PM, "Henrik Stoerner" <henrik at hswn.dk> wrote:
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 02:01:15PM -0400, Michael Dunne wrote:
This feature sounds very cool. When I attempt to compile the snapshot I receive the following error:
gcc -g -O -Wall -Wno-unused -D_REENTRANT -DBIND_8_COMPAT=1 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DDarwin -I. -I/Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include -I/opt/local/include -I. -I../include -c -o acklog.o acklog.c In file included from /Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include/libbbgen.h:69, from acklog.c:28: /Users/hobbit/Desktop/snapshot/include/../lib/msort.h:17: error: conflicting types for 'mergesort' /usr/include/stdlib.h:288: error: previous declaration of 'mergesort' was here
Why must OSX always pick the same names for things that I want to use ???
Oh well ... I'll rename my mergesort() routine to "msort" and see if that works better.
Regards, Henrik
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Henrik Stoerner wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:11:22PM +0100, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, lars ebeling wrote:
If you mean the graphical trends, you get previous periods by clicking on the graph. Almost - when you do that you dont get trends, you get previous periods for that test. I'm looking for a way to watch get a trends view with all the tests from the trends page, but from a different period.
I started doing this yesterday, thinking it would be a simple task ... well, it was a bit more complicated than I thought. But I think it's working now - unfortunately, it is also mixed in with some of the other changes that have happened since 4.2.0.
So I won't make a patch against 4.2.0, but if you really want it then you can grab the current snapshot and build it, then copy the web/hobbitsvc.cgi to ~hobbit/server/bin/ and hobbitd/webfiles/trends_form to the ~hobbit/server/web/ directory.
This has a small form at the top of the "trends" page where you can pick how much time the graphs should cover. The default is 48 hours (as before), but you can change that by setting TRENDSECONDS in hobbitserver.cfg - as the name implies, it is in seconds.
The form layout on the trends page will probably change a bit, perhaps to some drop-down boxes.
Useful feature indeed!
We tried it under Hobbit 4.2.0 with allinonepatch and Solaris 9. The "Trends period" box is there but when we press "update" we get an internal server error:
Premature end of script headers: bb-hostsvc.sh, referer: https://wwwexp.unil.ch/hobbit-cgi/bb-hostsvc.sh?HOST=zeb2&SERVICE=trends
Any idea?
Dominique UNIL - University of Lausanne
The form layout on the trends page will probably change a bit, perhaps to some drop-down boxes.
Since you mentioned that the trends page may change a bit, I would like to submit some ideas that I had about the trends page.
I consider the trends page to display the 'critical' trends. If too many graphs are displayed, the page can get overwhelming or confusing. I also find useful that more than one vmstat/netstat/etc graph is available. What I would like to see is, if a particular graph displayed on the trends page has sibling graphs (i.e. netstat1, netstat2, etc) that an icon would be displayed next to the zoom icon. This icon would link to a page with all of the sibling (netstat*) graphs.
On the graph page, offer the option to have the displayed graph data exportable(i.e. user can click a link and download a file with the raw RRD data points). This would also be great on the metrics report too. As to the export formats, I am not sure, possibly csv and xml.
Just some thoughts, thanks again for Hobbit. ~Steve
Hello,
I just recently installed Hobbit and when I click on the trends graph I do not see any labels on any of the graphs. Any suggestions to how I could rectify this issue?
~Mike
Hello,
I just recently installed Hobbit and when I click on the trends graph I do not see any labels on any of the graphs. Any suggestions to how I could rectify this issue?
~Mike
From the looks of that graph, I'm guessing it is the CPU Load graph? If you make custom graphs, I know you have to manually set up the rrd definition (in hobbitgraph.cfg) to say how you want the graph to display, but the default ones should be fine. I wonder if there's a problem with the install of the rrdtool package on your machine (though I would think Hobbit wouldn't compile if there was).
On 3/14/07, mike.cormier at bell.ca <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
Hello,
I just recently installed Hobbit and when I click on the trends graph I do not see any labels on any of the graphs. Any suggestions to how I could rectify this issue?
~Mike
Hi Gary,
Thanks for replying. Yes it is the cpu graph, all the other graphs display the same way. Everything compiled with no errors; I'll try to create some test/sample rrd graphs to see if the labels display. If not then I will recompile rrdtool.
~Mike
-----Original Message----- From: Gary Baluha [mailto:gumby3203 at gmail.com] Sent: March 14, 2007 4:12 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Graph Display Error
From the looks of that graph, I'm guessing it is the CPU Load graph? If you make custom graphs, I know you have to manually set up the rrd definition (in hobbitgraph.cfg) to say how you want the graph to display, but the default ones should be fine. I wonder if there's a problem with the install of the rrdtool package on your machine (though I would think Hobbit wouldn't compile if there was).
On 3/14/07, mike.cormier at bell.ca <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
Hello,
I just recently installed Hobbit and when I click on the trends graph I do not see any labels on any of the graphs. Any suggestions to how I could rectify this issue?
~Mike
I seem to recall running in to this problem myself at one point, though I can't recall what was done to fix it. What version of rrdtool are you running, and what version of Hobbit?
On 3/14/07, mike.cormier at bell.ca <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
Hi Gary,
Thanks for replying. Yes it is the cpu graph, all the other graphs display the same way. Everything compiled with no errors; I'll try to create some test/sample rrd graphs to see if the labels display. If not then I will recompile rrdtool.
~Mike
-----Original Message----- *From:* Gary Baluha [mailto:gumby3203 at gmail.com] *Sent:* March 14, 2007 4:12 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Graph Display Error
From the looks of that graph, I'm guessing it is the CPU Load graph? If you make custom graphs, I know you have to manually set up the rrd definition (in hobbitgraph.cfg) to say how you want the graph to display, but the default ones should be fine. I wonder if there's a problem with the install of the rrdtool package on your machine (though I would think Hobbit wouldn't compile if there was).
On 3/14/07, *mike.cormier at bell.ca* <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
Hello,
I just recently installed Hobbit and when I click on the trends graph I do not see any labels on any of the graphs. Any suggestions to how I could rectify this issue?
~Mike
rrdtool-1.2.19
hobbit-4.2.0
~Mike
-----Original Message----- From: Gary Baluha [mailto:gumby3203 at gmail.com] Sent: March 15, 2007 10:07 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Graph Display Error
I seem to recall running in to this problem myself at one point, though I can't recall what was done to fix it. What version of rrdtool are you running, and what version of Hobbit?
On 3/14/07, mike.cormier at bell.ca <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
Hi Gary,
Thanks for replying. Yes it is the cpu graph, all the other graphs display the same way. Everything compiled with no errors; I'll try to create some test/sample rrd graphs to see if the labels display. If not then I will recompile rrdtool.
~Mike
-----Original Message----- From: Gary Baluha [mailto:gumby3203 at gmail.com] Sent: March 14, 2007 4:12 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Graph Display Error
From the looks of that graph, I'm guessing it is the CPU Load graph? If you make custom graphs, I know you have to manually set up the rrd definition (in hobbitgraph.cfg) to say how you want the graph to display, but the default ones should be fine. I wonder if there's a problem with the install of the rrdtool package on your machine (though I would think Hobbit wouldn't compile if there was).
On 3/14/07, mike.cormier at bell.ca <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
Hello,
I just recently installed Hobbit and when I click on the trends graph I do not see any labels on any of the graphs. Any suggestions to how I could rectify this issue?
~Mike
It looks like from the RRD page that some problems with the RRD graphs can be fixed by using the latest version of libart. So, that's one other software package you might want to check the version on.
On 3/15/07, mike.cormier at bell.ca <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
rrdtool-1.2.19
hobbit-4.2.0
~Mike
-----Original Message----- *From:* Gary Baluha [mailto:gumby3203 at gmail.com] *Sent:* March 15, 2007 10:07 AM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Graph Display Error
I seem to recall running in to this problem myself at one point, though I can't recall what was done to fix it. What version of rrdtool are you running, and what version of Hobbit?
On 3/14/07, *mike.cormier at bell.ca* <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
Hi Gary,
Thanks for replying. Yes it is the cpu graph, all the other graphs display the same way. Everything compiled with no errors; I'll try to create some test/sample rrd graphs to see if the labels display. If not then I will recompile rrdtool.
~Mike
-----Original Message----- *From:* Gary Baluha [mailto:gumby3203 at gmail.com] *Sent:* March 14, 2007 4:12 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Graph Display Error
From the looks of that graph, I'm guessing it is the CPU Load graph? If you make custom graphs, I know you have to manually set up the rrd definition (in hobbitgraph.cfg) to say how you want the graph to display, but the default ones should be fine. I wonder if there's a problem with the install of the rrdtool package on your machine (though I would think Hobbit wouldn't compile if there was).
On 3/14/07, *mike.cormier at bell.ca* <mike.cormier at bell.ca> wrote:
Hello,
I just recently installed Hobbit and when I click on the trends graph I do not see any labels on any of the graphs. Any suggestions to how I could rectify this issue?
~Mike
Henrik Stoerner wrote:
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 04:11:22PM +0100, Kolbjørn Barmen wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2007, lars ebeling wrote:
If you mean the graphical trends, you get previous periods by clicking on the graph. Almost - when you do that you dont get trends, you get previous periods for that test. I'm looking for a way to watch get a trends view with all the tests from the trends page, but from a different period.
I started doing this yesterday, thinking it would be a simple task ... well, it was a bit more complicated than I thought. But I think it's working now - unfortunately, it is also mixed in with some of the other changes that have happened since 4.2.0.
So I won't make a patch against 4.2.0, but if you really want it then you can grab the current snapshot and build it, then copy the web/hobbitsvc.cgi to ~hobbit/server/bin/ and hobbitd/webfiles/trends_form to the ~hobbit/server/web/ directory.
This has a small form at the top of the "trends" page where you can pick how much time the graphs should cover. The default is 48 hours (as before), but you can change that by setting TRENDSECONDS in hobbitserver.cfg - as the name implies, it is in seconds.
The form layout on the trends page will probably change a bit, perhaps to some drop-down boxes.
Hi Henrik,
We found why we receive "Internal Server Error" when using this new feature.
We use the NAME tag in bb-hosts and this value is -wrongly- given as param. to the hobbitsvc.cgi.
Here an example with NAME="arwen (ESX Server for Linux)":
<CENTER> <TABLE WIDTH=80% BORDER=0 CELLSPACING=5 SUMMARY="Trends period"> <TR><TD>Trends period</TD></TR> <TR> <TD BGCOLOR="#333333"> <BR>
<CENTER>
<FORM METHOD="GET" ACTION="/hobbit-cgi/bb-hostsvc.sh">
Days: <INPUT TYPE=TEXT NAME="backdays" SIZE=4
VALUE="3"> Hours: <INPUT TYPE=TEXT NAME="backhours" SIZE=4 VALUE="0"> Minutes: <INPUT TYPE=TEXT NAME="backmins" SIZE=4 VALUE="0"> Seconds: <INPUT TYPE=TEXT NAME="backsecs" SIZE=4 VALUE="0">
<INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="HOST" VALUE="arwen (ESX Server for Linux)">
<INPUT TYPE="HIDDEN" NAME="SERVICE" VALUE="trends">
<INPUT TYPE="SUBMIT" NAME="Go" VALUE="Update" ALT="Update">
</FORM>
</CENTER>
</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>
</CENTER>
Could you have a look at this?
Thanks.
Dominique UNIL - University of Lausanne
On 3/20/07, Dominique Frise <Dominique.Frise at unil.ch> wrote:
We use the NAME tag in bb-hosts and this value is -wrongly- given as param. to the hobbitsvc.cgi.
Here an example with NAME="arwen (ESX Server for Linux)":
Have you tried it without the parentheses?? They can make a shell script do unexpected things...
Ralph Mitchell
Ralph Mitchell wrote:
On 3/20/07, Dominique Frise <Dominique.Frise at unil.ch> wrote:
We use the NAME tag in bb-hosts and this value is -wrongly- given as param. to the hobbitsvc.cgi.
Here an example with NAME="arwen (ESX Server for Linux)":
Have you tried it without the parentheses?? They can make a shell script do unexpected things...
Ralph Mitchell
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Yes I did. The thing is the code should use the hostname not what is specified with the NAME tag.
Dominique _UNIL - University of Lausanne
Dominique Frise wrote:
Ralph Mitchell wrote:
On 3/20/07, Dominique Frise <Dominique.Frise at unil.ch> wrote:
We use the NAME tag in bb-hosts and this value is -wrongly- given as param. to the hobbitsvc.cgi.
Here an example with NAME="arwen (ESX Server for Linux)":
Have you tried it without the parentheses?? They can make a shell script do unexpected things...
Ralph Mitchell
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Yes I did. The thing is the code should use the hostname not what is specified with the NAME tag.
Dominique _UNIL - University of Lausanne
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The problem was solved by using the &BBHIKEY variable instead of &BBHOST in ~hobbit/server/web/trends_form
Cheers
Dominique UNIL - University of Lausanne
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