Hi all,
when i comment an entry in my bb-hosts file, the host disappears from the display, which is normal.
i haven't done a "drop hostname" yet, and , i don't see any "unknown host" in my log files..
this brings me to the question : if someone deletes hosts in the bb-hosts file, how do i know which hosts to "drop" ?
-- Olivier Beau
Olivier Beau a écrit :
Hi all,
when i comment an entry in my bb-hosts file, the host disappears from the display, which is normal.
i haven't done a "drop hostname" yet, and , i don't see any "unknown host" in my log files..
this brings me to the question : if someone deletes hosts in the bb-hosts file, how do i know which hosts to "drop" ?
Hi Olivier
if you run hobbitd with the option "--ghosts=log", you'll see them in the "hobbitd" colum. Here's an example :
Ghost reports: 10.50.8.10 reported host cyclopes
The man page says that :
--ghosts={allow|drop|log}
How to handle status messages from unknown hosts. The
"allow"
setting accepts all status messages, regardless of
whether the
host is known in the bb-hosts file or not. "drop"
silently
ignores reports from unknown hosts. "log" works like
drop, but
logs the event in the hobbitd output file. The
default is
"allow", unless the BBGHOSTS environment variable is set.
--
Frédéric Mangeant
Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis
Hi Frédéric,
i tried that, but i dont have a bbagent runnning on the host i removed from bb-hosts; i was only doing network test with bbtest-net on this host
Olivier
Selon Frédéric Mangeant <frederic.mangeant at steria.com>:
Olivier Beau a écrit :
Hi all,
when i comment an entry in my bb-hosts file, the host disappears from the display, which is normal.
i haven't done a "drop hostname" yet, and , i don't see any "unknown host" in my log files..
this brings me to the question : if someone deletes hosts in the bb-hosts file, how do i know which hosts to "drop" ?
Hi Olivier
if you run hobbitd with the option "--ghosts=log", you'll see them in the "hobbitd" colum. Here's an example :
Ghost reports: 10.50.8.10 reported host cyclopes
The man page says that :
--ghosts={allow|drop|log} How to handle status messages from unknown hosts. The
"allow" setting accepts all status messages, regardless of whether the host is known in the bb-hosts file or not. "drop"
silently ignores reports from unknown hosts. "log" works like drop, but logs the event in the hobbitd output file. The
default is "allow", unless the BBGHOSTS environment variable is set.--
Frédéric Mangeant
Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis
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-- Olivier Beau
Olivier Beau a écrit :
Hi Frédéric,
i tried that, but i dont have a bbagent runnning on the host i removed from bb-hosts; i was only doing network test with bbtest-net on this host
You can use the "purplelog" option of bbgen :
--purplelog=FILENAME Generate a logfile of all purple status messages.
The content of this log is :
Stale (purple) logfiles as of Wed Jul 27 15:23:32 2005
ambre conn (unknown host) ambre ftp (unknown host)
--
Frédéric Mangeant
Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis
That's what i'm doing, i do have logging of expired events in my purple.log, but dont have any "unknown host" events !
i'm running 4.0.5RC1, are you running 4.1.1 ?
Olivier
Selon Frédéric Mangeant <frederic.mangeant at steria.com>:
Olivier Beau a écrit :
Hi Frédéric,
i tried that, but i dont have a bbagent runnning on the host i removed from bb-hosts; i was only doing network test with bbtest-net on this host
You can use the "purplelog" option of bbgen :
--purplelog=FILENAME Generate a logfile of all purple status messages.
The content of this log is :
Stale (purple) logfiles as of Wed Jul 27 15:23:32 2005
ambre conn (unknown host) ambre ftp (unknown host)
--
Frédéric Mangeant
Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis
To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk
-- Olivier Beau
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 02:19:54PM +0200, Olivier Beau wrote:
when i comment an entry in my bb-hosts file, the host disappears from the display, which is normal.
i haven't done a "drop hostname" yet, and , i don't see any "unknown host" in my log files..
Hobbit does notice when you remove hosts from bb-hosts, and will automatically forget about hosts that disappear from bb-hosts. The "drop" command is only to clean up the files stored on disk (history logs and RRD files).
this brings me to the question : if someone deletes hosts in the bb-hosts file, how do i know which hosts to "drop" ?
I think it should be the other way around: When someone deletes hosts from your bb-hosts file, they should know to do a "drop" command also.
It doesn't do much harm if you don't do the "drop" command. Hobbit will simply ignore hosts that are not in the bb-hosts file, so they only take up a bit of space.
If you must know what "orphan" hosts you have lying around, compare the list of hostnames from your bb-hosts file with the directory names in ~hobbit/data/histlogs/
Henrik
ok, thank you for the explaination, i have a better picture of this.
but, im still puzzled with with a certain scenario :
i have several bb-hosts files,
and once, one guy (who didnt know how to use vi) emptied the bb-hosts
file without realizing..
that why i need of way to be alert of what hosts are disappearing
from bb-hosts
so i'll write a script to compare histlog and bb-hosts (thank you for
the tip).
Olivier
Le 31 juil. 05 à 10:04, Henrik Stoerner a écrit :
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 02:19:54PM +0200, Olivier Beau wrote:
when i comment an entry in my bb-hosts file, the host disappears from the display, which is normal.
i haven't done a "drop hostname" yet, and , i don't see any "unknown host" in my log files..
Hobbit does notice when you remove hosts from bb-hosts, and will automatically forget about hosts that disappear from bb-hosts. The "drop" command is only to clean up the files stored on disk (history logs and RRD files).
this brings me to the question : if someone deletes hosts in the
bb-hosts file, how do i know which hosts to "drop" ?I think it should be the other way around: When someone deletes hosts from your bb-hosts file, they should know to do a "drop" command also.
It doesn't do much harm if you don't do the "drop" command. Hobbit will simply ignore hosts that are not in the bb-hosts file, so they only take up a bit of space.
If you must know what "orphan" hosts you have lying around, compare the list of hostnames from your bb-hosts file with the directory names in ~hobbit/data/histlogs/
Henrik
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i'm re-sending this again, i think my first mail got cut...
ok, thank you for the explaination, i have a better picture of this.
but, im still puzzled with with a certain scenario :
i have several bb-hosts files,
and once, one guy (who didnt know how to use vi) emptied the bb-hosts
file without realizing..
that why i need of way to be alert of what hosts are disappearing
from bb-host
so i'll write a script to compare histlog and bb-hosts (thank you for
the tip)
Olivier
Le 31 juil. 05 à 10:04, Henrik Stoerner a écrit :
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 02:19:54PM +0200, Olivier Beau wrote:
when i comment an entry in my bb-hosts file, the host disappears from the display, which is normal.
i haven't done a "drop hostname" yet, and , i don't see any "unknown host" in my log files..
Hobbit does notice when you remove hosts from bb-hosts, and will automatically forget about hosts that disappear from bb-hosts. The "drop" command is only to clean up the files stored on disk (history logs and RRD files).
this brings me to the question : if someone deletes hosts in the
bb-hosts file, how do i know which hosts to "drop" ?I think it should be the other way around: When someone deletes hosts from your bb-hosts file, they should know to do a "drop" command also.
It doesn't do much harm if you don't do the "drop" command. Hobbit will simply ignore hosts that are not in the bb-hosts file, so they only take up a bit of space.
If you must know what "orphan" hosts you have lying around, compare the list of hostnames from your bb-hosts file with the directory names in ~hobbit/data/histlogs/
Henrik
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