Hi,
Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.
Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available". However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view menus and look at the tests historically they are all there and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.
I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look. I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the Hobbit server.
If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the other foor and support this forum.
Paul
pmcilrath at marketron.com
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I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I 'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
/Thomas Kern /301-903-2211
-----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Hi,
Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.
Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view menus and look at the tests historically they are all there and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look. I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the Hobbit server.
If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the other foor and support this forum.
Paul
pmcilrath at marketron.com
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Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
/Thomas Kern
/301-903-2211
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
> is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.
>
> Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
> rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
> hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
>
> The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
> some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
>
> The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
> icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
> tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
> However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
> menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
> and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
> in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
> growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep
> hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.
>
> I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
> Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
> I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
> makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot
> report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
> directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
> Hobbit server.
>
> If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
> and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
> patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
> do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
> other foor and support this forum.
>
> Paul
>
> pmcilrath at marketron.com
>
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> confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not
> the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or
> copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have
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I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
/Thomas Kern
/301-903-2211
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
> is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.
>
> Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
> rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
> hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
>
> The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
> some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
>
> The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
> icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
> tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
> However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
> menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
> and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
> in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
> growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep
> hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.
>
> I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
> Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
> I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
> makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot
> report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
> directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
> Hobbit server.
>
> If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
> and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
> patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
> do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
> other foor and support this forum.
>
> Paul
>
> pmcilrath at marketron.com
>
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> confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not
> the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or
> copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have
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Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/" <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www"> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> <VirtualHost *> DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www" ServerName hobbit <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www"> allow from all Options +Indexes </Directory> </VirtualHost> ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/" <Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/" <Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept. # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd AuthType Basic AuthName "Hobbit Administration" Require valid-user </Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
/Thomas Kern
/301-903-2211
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
> is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.
>
> Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
> rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
> hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
>
> The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
> some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
>
> The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
> icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
> tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
> However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
> menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
> and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
> in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
> growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep
> hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.
>
> I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
> Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
> I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
> makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot
> report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
> directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
> Hobbit server.
>
> If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
> and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
> patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
> do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
> other foor and support this forum.
>
> Paul
>
> pmcilrath at marketron.com
>
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> confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not
> the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or
> copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have
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Most likely. There are some permission changes that have to happen in the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man pages.
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/" <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www"> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> <VirtualHost *> DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www" ServerName hobbit <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www"> allow from all Options +Indexes </Directory> </VirtualHost> ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/" <Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/" <Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept. # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd AuthType Basic AuthName "Hobbit Administration" Require valid-user </Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
/Thomas Kern
/301-903-2211
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
> is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.
>
> Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
> rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
> hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
>
> The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
> some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
>
> The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
> icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
> tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
> However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
> menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
> and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
> in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
> growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep
> hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.
>
> I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
> Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
> I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
> makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot
> report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
> directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
> Hobbit server.
>
> If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
> and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
> patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
> do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
> other foor and support this forum.
>
> Paul
>
> pmcilrath at marketron.com
>
> </PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message may be
> confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not
> the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or
> copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have
> received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the
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"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI script running. I usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers). You might want to check the permissions on these directories and make sure there are files getting written to the this directory (or more specifically, the subfolders in it).
I don't know why you have your directories all over the place. Our entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in /home/hobbit, with subdirectories going out from there. Makes things easier to secure and easier to manage. Did you divide those up on purpose?
Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that you have setup for data compilation. These would be the $BBVAR and the variables in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg
Tod Hansmann Network Engineer
-----Original Message----- From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Most likely. There are some permission changes that have to happen in the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man pages.
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/" <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www"> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> <VirtualHost *> DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www" ServerName hobbit <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www"> allow from all Options +Indexes </Directory> </VirtualHost> ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/" <Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/" <Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept. # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd AuthType Basic AuthName "Hobbit Administration" Require valid-user </Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apachehttpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardlessof how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status notAvailable
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screenoccasionally. I think it is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I 'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 > -----Original Message----- > From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29 > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available > > Hi, > > Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which > is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company. > > Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and > rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from > hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386. > > The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put > some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd. > > The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests > icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts > tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available". > However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view > menus and look at the tests historically they are all there > and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts > in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are > growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep > hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running. > > I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of > Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look. > I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that > makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot > report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output > directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the > Hobbit server. > > If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know > and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little > patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to > do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the > other foor and support this forum. > > Paul > > pmcilrath at marketron.com > > </PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message may be > confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not > the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or > copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have > received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the > sender at exadmins at marketron.com > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk
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Tod,
Thank you for your response...this seems to be the right track. On your advice I checked the /hobbit/data directory and it is indeed empty, owned by hobbit.hobbit with 755 permissions.
I do not know why the rpm installer I used spread the directories around....the main install at first glance seems to be in /usr/libexec/hobbit which contains the cgi-bin, cgi-secure and server directories. A closer look in the /usr/libexec/hobbit/server directory however shows the soft links:
etc -> /etc/hobbit tmp -> /var/lib/hobbit/tmp web -> /etc/hobbit/web www -> /var/lib/hobbit/www
the bin and ext directories are not soft linked and reside in /usr/libexec/hobbit/server.
I guess I made a bad assumption that this was just how every hobbit installation was set up. When I ran BB, I used to install everything to /bb/bb19c.
Perhaps the best question now would be, is it worth the time to try and patch up this installation to make everything work? Or would it be more productive to scrap in and use a binary installer and make/make install to build it on the environment it will be running on?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:thansmann at directpointe.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 4:54 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI script running. I
usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data
directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers). You
might want to check the permissions on these directories and make sure
there are files getting written to the this directory (or more
specifically, the subfolders in it).
I don't know why you have your directories all over the place. Our
entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in /home/hobbit,
with subdirectories going out from there. Makes things easier to secure
and easier to manage. Did you divide those up on purpose?
Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that you have
setup for data compilation. These would be the $BBVAR and the variables
in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg
Tod Hansmann
Network Engineer
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Most likely. There are some permission changes that have to happen in
the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user
apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up
hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man
pages.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to
the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working
however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the
following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
<VirtualHost *>
DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
ServerName hobbit
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
# Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
# Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
# Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd
/etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
AuthType Basic
AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
Require valid-user
</Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with
the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2
reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its not
requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing
because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a
possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache
httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include
directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is
anything hobbit related.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless
of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something
simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen
occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the network
slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
/Thomas Kern
/301-903-2211
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother
background which
> is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at
my company.
>
> Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
> rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
> hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
>
> The installations all went smoothly, no error
messages, I put
> some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
>
> The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the
tests
> icons, instead of getting the current status for that
hosts
> tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
> However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the
view
> menus and look at the tests historically they are all
there
> and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for
the hosts
> in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
> growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef
| grep
> hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and
running.
>
> I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure
of
> Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where
to look.
> I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in
reports that
> makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a
snapshot
> report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
> directory", and the config report says it cannot
contact the
> Hobbit server.
>
> If this is the wrong place for this post, please let
me know
> and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a
little
> patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will
promise to
> do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is
on the
> other foor and support this forum.
>
> Paul
>
> pmcilrath at marketron.com
>
> </PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message
may be
> confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are
not
> the intended recipient, any dissemination,
distribution or
> copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you
have
> received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail
the
> sender at exadmins at marketron.com
>
>
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I would compile it by hand (but that's just me)...I hate when package maintainers spread everything hither and yon (what's really wrong with it living under /usr/local or /opt?...at least you know where everything is that pertains to that application)...like apache...you might find it's actually easier to configure that way. I'm fairly certain that there are some readme's, etc that come with the tarball that may or may not be included in the packages...if they are in the packages, I really doubt they've been updated to describe the package distribution and what/where to change things.
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:28 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Tod,
Thank you for your response...this seems to be the right track. On your advice I checked the /hobbit/data directory and it is indeed empty, owned by hobbit.hobbit with 755 permissions.
I do not know why the rpm installer I used spread the directories around....the main install at first glance seems to be in /usr/libexec/hobbit which contains the cgi-bin, cgi-secure and server directories. A closer look in the /usr/libexec/hobbit/server directory however shows the soft links:
etc -> /etc/hobbit tmp -> /var/lib/hobbit/tmp web -> /etc/hobbit/web www -> /var/lib/hobbit/www
the bin and ext directories are not soft linked and reside in /usr/libexec/hobbit/server.
I guess I made a bad assumption that this was just how every hobbit installation was set up. When I ran BB, I used to install everything to /bb/bb19c.
Perhaps the best question now would be, is it worth the time to try and patch up this installation to make everything work? Or would it be more productive to scrap in and use a binary installer and make/make install to build it on the environment it will be running on?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:thansmann at directpointe.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 4:54 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI script running. I
usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data
directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers). You
might want to check the permissions on these directories and make sure
there are files getting written to the this directory (or more
specifically, the subfolders in it).
I don't know why you have your directories all over the place. Our
entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in /home/hobbit,
with subdirectories going out from there. Makes things easier to secure
and easier to manage. Did you divide those up on purpose?
Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that you have
setup for data compilation. These would be the $BBVAR and the variables
in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg
Tod Hansmann
Network Engineer
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Most likely. There are some permission changes that have to happen in
the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user
apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up
hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man
pages.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to
the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working
however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the
following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
<VirtualHost *>
DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
ServerName hobbit
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
# Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
# Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
# Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd
/etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
AuthType Basic
AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
Require valid-user
</Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with
the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2
reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its not
requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing
because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a
possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache
httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include
directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is
anything hobbit related.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless
of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something
simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen
occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the network
slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
/Thomas Kern
/301-903-2211
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not
Available
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother
background which
> is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at
my company.
>
> Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
> rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
> hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
>
> The installations all went smoothly, no error
messages, I put
> some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
>
> The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the
tests
> icons, instead of getting the current status for that
hosts
> tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
> However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the
view
> menus and look at the tests historically they are all
there
> and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for
the hosts
> in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
> growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef
| grep
> hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and
running.
>
> I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure
of
> Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where
to look.
> I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in
reports that
> makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a
snapshot
> report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
> directory", and the config report says it cannot
contact the
> Hobbit server.
>
> If this is the wrong place for this post, please let
me know
> and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a
little
> patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will
promise to
> do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is
on the
> other foor and support this forum.
>
> Paul
>
> pmcilrath at marketron.com
>
> </PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message
may be
> confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are
not
> the intended recipient, any dissemination,
distribution or
> copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you
have
> received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail
the
> sender at exadmins at marketron.com
>
>
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I whole-heartedly agree. It's also more secure if you create a new, very limited user, and compile into their home dir. It makes for easy backups of the whole config and historical data if you're into that sort of thing, too.
Should be easy to do.
Tod Hansmann Network Engineer
-----Original Message----- From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 8:09 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I would compile it by hand (but that's just me)...I hate when package maintainers spread everything hither and yon (what's really wrong with it living under /usr/local or /opt?...at least you know where everything is that pertains to that application)...like apache...you might find it's actually easier to configure that way. I'm fairly certain that there are some readme's, etc that come with the tarball that may or may not be included in the packages...if they are in the packages, I really doubt they've been updated to describe the package distribution and what/where to change things.
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:28 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Tod,
Thank you for your response...this seems to be the right track. On your advice I checked the /hobbit/data directory and it is indeed empty, owned by hobbit.hobbit with 755 permissions.
I do not know why the rpm installer I used spread the directories around....the main install at first glance seems to be in /usr/libexec/hobbit which contains the cgi-bin, cgi-secure and server directories. A closer look in the /usr/libexec/hobbit/server directory however shows the soft links:
etc -> /etc/hobbit tmp -> /var/lib/hobbit/tmp web -> /etc/hobbit/web www -> /var/lib/hobbit/www
the bin and ext directories are not soft linked and reside in /usr/libexec/hobbit/server.
I guess I made a bad assumption that this was just how every hobbit installation was set up. When I ran BB, I used to install everything to /bb/bb19c.
Perhaps the best question now would be, is it worth the time to try and patch up this installation to make everything work? Or would it be more productive to scrap in and use a binary installer and make/make install to build it on the environment it will be running on?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Tod Hansmann [mailto:thansmann at directpointe.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 4:54 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
"Status Unavailable" is a result given by the CGI scriptrunning. I usually get this on new nodes when there is no data in the data directory (usually /home/hobbit/data, at least on my servers). You might want to check the permissions on these directories and make sure there are files getting written to the this directory (or more specifically, the subfolders in it).
I don't know why you have your directories all over the place.Our entire installation of hobbit on all three servers is in /home/hobbit, with subdirectories going out from there. Makes things easier to secure and easier to manage. Did you divide those up on purpose?
Regardless, check on the permissions of the directory that youhave setup for data compilation. These would be the $BBVAR and the variables in the same section as it in your hobbitserver.cfg
Tod Hansmann
Network Engineer
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:48 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Most likely. There are some permission changes that have tohappen in the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man pages.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement topoint to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
<VirtualHost *>
DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
ServerName hobbit
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
# Password file where users with access to these scripts arekept. # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd AuthType Basic AuthName "Hobbit Administration" Require valid-user </Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything startedworking, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status notAvailable
I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if yourapache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related. =G= -----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available Thanks for your response Thomas, unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet! Paul -----Original Message----- From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov] Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Cc: Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I 'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 > -----Original Message----- > From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29 > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available > > Hi, > > Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which > is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company. > > Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and > rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from > hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386. > > The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put > some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd. > > The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests > icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts > tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available". > However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view > menus and look at the tests historically they are all there > and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts > in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are > growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep > hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running. > > I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of > Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look. > I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that > makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot > report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output > directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the > Hobbit server. > > If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know > and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little > patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to > do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the > other foor and support this forum. > > Paul > > pmcilrath at marketron.com > > </PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message may be > confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not > the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or > copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have > received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the > sender at exadmins at marketron.com > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk </PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender at exadmins at marketron.com
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Ok, I got rid of the rpm install and started over.
I downloaded the latest hobbit binary and freetyp2, libart, libpng and rrdtool binaries and started from scratch.
Everything is installed and I used the hobbit-apache.conf example created by the install to configure apache.
Fired it all up, and hobbit seemed to be running fine...but when I click on any link, I get a strange error that says Internet Explorer (or Firefox) cannot download the file....instead of following the link to the details page for that test. I get the same thing with reports, trends, etc, etc. Only non-green seems to be working.
Im pretty sure that it has to be something to do with cgi-bin or seccgi, so Im poring over my httpd.conf file line by line to see if something somewhere is conflicting with the example setup from the hobbit install (pasted into the bottom of my httpd.conf).
Has anyone seen this before?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 3:47 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Most likely. There are some permission changes that have to happen in the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man pages.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/"
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
<VirtualHost *>
DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www"
ServerName hobbit
<Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www">
allow from all
Options +Indexes
</Directory>
</VirtualHost>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>
ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/"
<Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure">
AllowOverride None
Options ExecCGI Includes
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
# Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept.
# Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
# Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME"
AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd
AuthType Basic
AuthName "Hobbit Administration"
Require valid-user
</Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related.
=G=
-----Original Message-----
From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Thanks for your response Thomas,
unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet!
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov]
Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it
is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I
'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data.
/Thomas Kern
/301-903-2211
> -----Original Message-----
> From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29
> To: hobbit at hswn.dk
> Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
>
> Hi,
>
> Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which
> is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company.
>
> Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and
> rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from
> hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386.
>
> The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put
> some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd.
>
> The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests
> icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts
> tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available".
> However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view
> menus and look at the tests historically they are all there
> and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts
> in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are
> growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep
> hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running.
>
> I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of
> Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look.
> I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that
> makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot
> report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output
> directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the
> Hobbit server.
>
> If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know
> and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little
> patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to
> do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the
> other foor and support this forum.
>
> Paul
>
> pmcilrath at marketron.com
>
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> copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have
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On Thu, October 4, 2007 18:12, McIlrath, Paul wrote:
Ok, I got rid of the rpm install and started over.
I downloaded the latest hobbit binary and freetyp2, libart, libpng and rrdtool binaries and started from scratch.
Everything is installed and I used the hobbit-apache.conf example created by the install to configure apache.
Fired it all up, and hobbit seemed to be running fine...but when I click on any link, I get a strange error that says Internet Explorer (or Firefox) cannot download the file....instead of following the link to the details page for that test. I get the same thing with reports, trends, etc, etc. Only non-green seems to be working.
Im pretty sure that it has to be something to do with cgi-bin or seccgi, so Im poring over my httpd.conf file line by line to see if something somewhere is conflicting with the example setup from the hobbit install (pasted into the bottom of my httpd.conf).
Has anyone seen this before?
Make sure _everything_ in the cgi-bin directory is executable. I've found on many platforms Apache will not execute any of the objects if even one of them is non-executable. chmod -R 755 /usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin
May not be your problem, but that's fixed similar ones for me.
Everything I could see in the cgi-bin directory was already 755 but I ran a chmod 755 * as root in the cgi-bin directory anyway. Restarted hobbit and httpd, no change. Thanks for the suggestion, but still seeing the problem.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: Hobbit User [mailto:hobbit at epperson.homelinux.net]
Sent: Thu 10/4/2007 4:52 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Cc:
Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
On Thu, October 4, 2007 18:12, McIlrath, Paul wrote:
> Ok, I got rid of the rpm install and started over.
>
> I downloaded the latest hobbit binary and freetyp2, libart, libpng and
> rrdtool binaries and started from scratch.
>
> Everything is installed and I used the hobbit-apache.conf example created
> by the install to configure apache.
>
> Fired it all up, and hobbit seemed to be running fine...but when I click
> on any link, I get a strange error that says Internet Explorer (or
> Firefox) cannot download the file....instead of following the link to the
> details page for that test. I get the same thing with reports, trends,
> etc, etc. Only non-green seems to be working.
>
> Im pretty sure that it has to be something to do with cgi-bin or seccgi,
> so Im poring over my httpd.conf file line by line to see if something
> somewhere is conflicting with the example setup from the hobbit install
> (pasted into the bottom of my httpd.conf).
>
> Has anyone seen this before?
Make sure _everything_ in the cgi-bin directory is executable. I've found
on many platforms Apache will not execute any of the objects if even one
of them is non-executable.
chmod -R 755 /usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin
May not be your problem, but that's fixed similar ones for me.
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On Thu, 2007-10-04 at 15:12 -0700, McIlrath, Paul wrote:
Ok, I got rid of the rpm install and started over.
I downloaded the latest hobbit binary and freetyp2, libart, libpng and rrdtool binaries and started from scratch.
Everything is installed and I used the hobbit-apache.conf example created by the install to configure apache.
Fired it all up, and hobbit seemed to be running fine...but when I click on any link, I get a strange error that says Internet Explorer (or Firefox) cannot download the file....instead of following the link to the details page for that test. I get the same thing with reports, trends, etc, etc. Only non-green seems to be working.
Im pretty sure that it has to be something to do with cgi-bin or seccgi, so Im poring over my httpd.conf file line by line to see if something somewhere is conflicting with the example setup from the hobbit install (pasted into the bottom of my httpd.conf).
Has anyone seen this before?
Make sure your bb-hostsvc.sh is pointing to the right location for your binaries
here is an example of mine
#!/bin/sh
This is a wrapper for the Hobbit hobbitsvc.cgi script
. /usr/local/hobbit/server/etc/hobbitcgi.cfg exec /usr/local/hobbit/server/bin/hobbitsvc.cgi $CGI_SVC_OPTS
Another test would be see if you can execute the shell script yourself and see what you get for an error Trent
Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com] Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 3:47 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Cc: Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Most likely. There are some permission changes that have to happen in the hobbit www area and maybe a couple of other areas to allow the user apache runs as to write there...it has been a while since I set up hobbit but you might be able to glean the info from the hobbit help/man pages.
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 5:06 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available
Galen,
When I first set it up, it was using the include statement to point to the \etc\httpd\conf.d\hobbit-apache.conf file. That wasnt working however, so I commented out where apache point to conf.d and pasted the following in at the end of my \etc\httpd\conf\httpd.conf file:
Alias /hobbit/ "/var/lib/hobbit/www/" <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www"> Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes MultiViews Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> <VirtualHost *> DocumentRoot "/var/lib/hobbit/www" ServerName hobbit <Directory "/var/lib/hobbit/www"> allow from all Options +Indexes </Directory> </VirtualHost> ScriptAlias /hobbit-cgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin/" <Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-bin"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all </Directory> ScriptAlias /hobbit-seccgi/ "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure/" <Directory "/usr/libexec/hobbit/cgi-secure"> AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI Includes Order allow,deny Allow from all # Password file where users with access to these scripts are kept. # Create it with "htpasswd -c /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" # Add more users / change passwords with "htpasswd /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd USERNAME" AuthUserFile /etc/hobbit/hobbitpasswd AuthType Basic AuthName "Hobbit Administration" Require valid-user </Directory>
Then I restarted httpd and hobbitd and everything started working, with the exception of the pages showing Status not Available and the 2 reports, as stated below. Now that you mention it though, its not requiring any kind of login right now....so maybe its a rights thing because it doesnt know who is trying to create/view the pages. Is that a possibility?
Paul
-----Original Message----- From: Galen Johnson [mailto:Galen.Johnson at sas.com] Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 2:41 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Cc: Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available I don't use the packages but I'm wondering if your apache httpd.conf file has the hobbit include info...either via an Include directive or pasted in directly. Look in there and see if there is anything hobbit related. =G= -----Original Message----- From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:57 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk; hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available Thanks for your response Thomas, unfortunately, I get it on every test, all the time, regardless of how many times I refresh. Im sure I have over looked something simple, I just dont know what it is yet! Paul -----Original Message----- From: Kern, Thomas [mailto:Thomas.Kern at hq.doe.gov] Sent: Tue 9/25/2007 1:36 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Cc: Subject: RE: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available I get the blank 'Status Not Available' screen occasionally. I think it is just the hobbit server being busy or the network slow. When I 'refresh' the page, I get a regular screen of data. /Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 > -----Original Message----- > From: McIlrath, Paul [mailto:pmcilrath at marketron.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 15:29 > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: [hobbit] NooB questions - Status not Available > > Hi, > > Im a NooB to Hobbit. I have some Big Brother background which > is why I chose Hobbit for a new monitoring project at my company. > > Im running CentOS 5, and I installed Apache 2, and > rrdtool-1.0.50-3.el5.rf.i386.rpm and Hobbit from > hobbit-4.1.2p1-1e14.re.i386. > > The installations all went smoothly, no error messages, I put > some hosts in my bb-hosts file and fired up hobbitd. > > The main page comes up, but when I click on any of the tests > icons, instead of getting the current status for that hosts > tests, I get a blank page with "Status not Available". > However, if I click on "all Non-Green view" from the view > menus and look at the tests historically they are all there > and can be viewed normally. I checked the files for the hosts > in the hist, hislogs and logs directories and they are > growing and receiving data from the clients. A ps -ef | grep > hobbitd seems to indicate that hobbitd is up and running. > > I suspect its a permissions thing, but the structure of > Hobbit is different enough from BB Im not sure where to look. > I am also seeing a couple of odd behaviors in reports that > makes me suspect that as well. If I try to run a snapshot > report I get a blank page with "Cannot create output > directory", and the config report says it cannot contact the > Hobbit server. > > If this is the wrong place for this post, please let me know > and I will go where I should. And if anyone has a little > patience to help a NooB along for awhile, I will promise to > do my time helping other NooBs along when the shoe is on the > other foor and support this forum. > > Paul > > pmcilrath at marketron.com > > </PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message may be > confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not > the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or > copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have > received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the > sender at exadmins at marketron.com > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk </PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender at exadmins at marketron.com</PRE>The information contained in this e-mail message may be confidential and protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying is strictly prohibited. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please e-mail the sender at exadmins at marketron.com
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