Hello and good afternoon
I'd like to kindly ask you for help with this. I really think the community needs an easy to use virtual image of this tool. Easy available for those like me with no time for linux and which know the os, however, they are not experienced when we compare them to those which work on linux on a day to day basis
I have an old installation of Xymon 4.2.3 on Fedora 10 vmware. I get in with the free inodes and free disk space troubles 2-3 times per year, and then load the old backup of the virtual image. I'd like to have the latest version of xymon with no problems regarding the inodes issue. Back, an year ago I was not able to find an easy solution to the inodes issue, being 100% full. Free disk space is ok and I can handle it. I am no linux expert and have less and less time to read and troubleshoot it. Can you please help with an image, prepared with the latest xymon and snmp support eventually. Then I will configure the hosts and the alerts. Its really journey to install and update all packages all over again for someone which is not a linux person a day to day basis. So, this will greatly help me and I think it will really help to alot of people to try it. Everyone can try with this out of the box solution. ESXi is also ok, or vmware player simple virtual image.
It will be wonderful if someone shares it's virtual image or someone prepares.
Thanks
On 5/11/2012 at 9:46 AM, in message <CABe7vS1wX9hxkqXcDb=otzzK9j72_3-pw_=TSSZ189GJzty+3A at mail.gmail.com>, Gonzalez Peto <jkokino at gmail.com> wrote: Hello and good afternoon
I'd like to kindly ask you for help with this. I really think the community needs an easy to use virtual image of this tool. Easy available for those like me with no time for linux and which know the os, however, they are not experienced when we compare them to those which work on linux on a day to day basis
I have an old installation of Xymon 4.2.3 on Fedora 10 vmware. I get in with the free inodes and free disk space troubles 2-3 times per year, and then load the old backup of the virtual image. I'd like to have the latest version of xymon with no problems regarding the inodes issue. Back, an year ago I was not able to find an easy solution to the inodes issue, being 100% full. Free disk space is ok and I can handle it. I am no linux expert and have less and less time to read and troubleshoot it. Can you please help with an image, prepared with the latest xymon and snmp support eventually. Then I will configure the hosts and the alerts. Its really journey to install and update all packages all over again for someone which is not a linux person a day to day basis. So, this will greatly help me and I think it will really help to alot of people to try it. Everyone can try with this out of the box solution. ESXi is also ok, or vmware player simple virtual image.
It will be wonderful if someone shares it's virtual image or someone prepares.
Thanks
Gonzalez -
If you do not have the time to learn Linux, then I would suggest Xymon is likely not the best monitoring tool for you.
Spend the time learning Linux, then learn how to compile code yourself. You will benefit from the experience.
Good luck
--
Jon Dustin - Network Specialist University of Southern Maine Portland, ME 207-780-4152
I believe xymon ships with Debian (and thus, Ubuntu... not sure about the version, though). The learning curve for Ubuntu isn't that steep. If you went from XP to 7 or Server 2000 to Server 2008, you can set up an Ubuntu server. In fact, if you find any old Debian or Ubuntu VM image, all you need to do is "aptitude install xymon" (or do it through the Synaptic GUI).
I would, however, take exception to virtualizing your monitoring server... call me crazy or old-school, but it always seemed wrong to me. It seems part of your issue is that the VM image is too small. You may need to learn enough Linux to add a new disk to the VM and then move some data over to it. But this might be an issue for any virtualized solution.
Also... what Jon said. ----- Original Message -----
From: "Gonzalez Peto" <jkokino at gmail.com> To: xymon at xymon.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:46:05 AM Subject: [Xymon] vmware or similar virtual image
Hello and good afternoon
I'd like to kindly ask you for help with this. I really think the community needs an easy to use virtual image of this tool. Easy available for those like me with no time for linux and which know the os, however, they are not experienced when we compare them to those which work on linux on a day to day basis
I have an old installation of Xymon 4.2.3 on Fedora 10 vmware. I get in with the free inodes and free disk space troubles 2-3 times per year, and then load the old backup of the virtual image. I'd like to have the latest version of xymon with no problems regarding the inodes issue. Back, an year ago I was not able to find an easy solution to the inodes issue, being 100% full. Free disk space is ok and I can handle it. I am no linux expert and have less and less time to read and troubleshoot it. Can you please help with an image, prepared with the latest xymon and snmp support eventually. Then I will configure the hosts and the alerts. Its really journey to install and update all packages all over again for someone which is not a linux person a day to day basis. So, this will greatly help me and I think it will really help to alot of people to try it. Everyone can try with this out of the box solution. ESXi is also ok, or vmware player simple virtual image.
It will be wonderful if someone shares it's virtual image or someone prepares.
Thanks
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I would, however, take exception to virtualizing your monitoring server... call me crazy or old-school, but it always seemed wrong to me.
IMHO this is depends on the robustness of your virtualization solution.
We're moving onto a large scale VMWare cluster with EMC and HP/3Par storage backends. I'm not at all worried about the xymon server (currently running on a G4 which is one of the smallest and oldest boxes in the shop)
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Elizabeth Schwartz < betsy.schwartz at gmail.com> wrote:
I would, however, take exception to virtualizing your monitoring server... call me crazy or old-school, but it always seemed wrong to me.
IMHO this is depends on the robustness of your virtualization solution.
We're moving onto a large scale VMWare cluster with EMC and HP/3Par storage backends. I'm not at all worried about the xymon server (currently running on a G4 which is one of the smallest and oldest boxes in the shop)
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
We avoid putting the xymon server on a VM just for the reason that if/when VMWare/ESX goes belly up we want to be able to watch as thing come back. We are going to upgrade to 4.3.7 on a VM, but will probably be moving it to a physical server before it actually goes into production.
Steve Holmes Purdue University
-- If they give you ruled paper, write the other way. -Juan Ramon Jimenez, poet, Nobel Prize in literature (1881-1958)
I agree, in fact, going to a virtual solution increases robustness of the monitoring server itself. You are no longer relying on a single piece of hardware as a single point of failure. Well-built vmware clusters have the ability to fail over to other servers and automatically bring the virtual servers back online, thus eliminating single points of failures. This is especially true when teamed with multiple path disk systems and networks..
-----Original Message----- From: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Schwartz Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:18 AM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] vmware or similar virtual image
I would, however, take exception to virtualizing your monitoring server... call me crazy or old-school, but it always seemed wrong to me.
IMHO this is depends on the robustness of your virtualization solution.
We're moving onto a large scale VMWare cluster with EMC and HP/3Par storage backends. I'm not at all worried about the xymon server (currently running on a G4 which is one of the smallest and oldest boxes in the shop) _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
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I agree completely. One of the big advantages to this tool is being able to add custom “tests” via scripts. You need to know how to script to get the most from Xymon. Also, a monitor should be completely stand alone and not depend on anything else in the environment (if possible). That way they keep doing their job while the world relying on disk arrays or host systems for virtualization schemes come crashing down around them. That way when one of the pieces that is critical to your environment is gone, the monitor can still give you a picture of what is still healthy and what is not.
My $.02,
Bruce
From: xymon-bounces at xymon.com [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Benjamin P. August Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:50 AM To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: Re: [Xymon] vmware or similar virtual image
I believe xymon ships with Debian (and thus, Ubuntu... not sure about the version, though). The learning curve for Ubuntu isn't that steep. If you went from XP to 7 or Server 2000 to Server 2008, you can set up an Ubuntu server. In fact, if you find any old Debian or Ubuntu VM image, all you need to do is "aptitude install xymon" (or do it through the Synaptic GUI).
I would, however, take exception to virtualizing your monitoring server... call me crazy or old-school, but it always seemed wrong to me. It seems part of your issue is that the VM image is too small. You may need to learn enough Linux to add a new disk to the VM and then move some data over to it. But this might be an issue for any virtualized solution.
Also... what Jon said.
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From: "Gonzalez Peto" <jkokino at gmail.com> To: xymon at xymon.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 6:46:05 AM Subject: [Xymon] vmware or similar virtual image
Hello and good afternoon
I'd like to kindly ask you for help with this. I really think the community needs an easy to use virtual image of this tool. Easy available for those like me with no time for linux and which know the os, however, they are not experienced when we compare them to those which work on linux on a day to day basis
I have an old installation of Xymon 4.2.3 on Fedora 10 vmware. I get in with the free inodes and free disk space troubles 2-3 times per year, and then load the old backup of the virtual image. I'd like to have the latest version of xymon with no problems regarding the inodes issue. Back, an year ago I was not able to find an easy solution to the inodes issue, being 100% full. Free disk space is ok and I can handle it. I am no linux expert and have less and less time to read and troubleshoot it. Can you please help with an image, prepared with the latest xymon and snmp support eventually. Then I will configure the hosts and the alerts. Its really journey to install and update all packages all over again for someone which is not a linux person a day to day basis. So, this will greatly help me and I think it will really help to alot of people to try it. Everyone can try with this out of the box solution. ESXi is also ok, or vmware player simple virtual image.
It will be wonderful if someone shares it's virtual image or someone prepares.
Thanks
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