CONN status is white for all hosts
I've just got through installing a fresh version of hobbit and now everything looks great except for the "conn" status which is showing up white and showing "Hobbit system error".
bb-network.log:
2007-12-19 13:15:10 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed) 2007-12-19 13:15:10 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied
-rwsr-x--- 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping
-rwsr-x--- 1 root hobbit 71927 Apr 13 2007 /usr/libexec/hobbit/server/bin/hobbitping
TIA,
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701
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Modify the permissions so that the hobbit user can execute fping!
Assuming your hobbit user is "hobbit" you'll need to either a) change the group owner of /usr/sbin/fping to hobbit or b) add hobbit to group adm or c) make it so everyone can r-x /usr/sbin/fping
On 12/19/07, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I've just got through installing a fresh version of hobbit and now everything looks great except for the "conn" status which is showing up white and showing "Hobbit system error".
bb-network.log:
2007-12-19 13:15:10 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed) 2007-12-19 13:15:10 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied
-rwsr-x--- 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping
-rwsr-x--- 1 root hobbit 71927 Apr 13 2007 /usr/libexec/hobbit/server/bin/hobbitping
TIA,
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701
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fping has to bet suid root so it can run.. there should be something in fping doc on how to do this.
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:28 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
Modify the permissions so that the hobbit user can execute
fping!
Assuming your hobbit user is "hobbit" you'll need to either a)
change the group owner of /usr/sbin/fping to hobbit or b) add hobbit to group adm or c) make it so everyone can r-x /usr/sbin/fping
On 12/19/07, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I've just got through installing a fresh version of
hobbit and now everything looks great except for the "conn" status which is showing up white and showing "Hobbit system error". bb-network.log : 2007-12-19 13:15:10 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed) 2007-12-19 13:15:10 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied -rwsr-x--- 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping -rwsr-x--- 1 root hobbit 71927 Apr 13 2007 /usr/libexec/hobbit/server/bin/hobbitping TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701 _____________________________________________________ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at PrivacyAct at ailife.com. To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk
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I didn't say anything about user name - only the group or global.
Your options are...
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping -rwsr-x--- 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping #add hobbituser to group adm -rwsr-x--- 1 root hobbit 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping #add hobbituser to group adm
On 12/19/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:
fping has to bet suid root so it can run.. there should be something in fping doc on how to do this.
*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:28 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
Modify the permissions so that the hobbit user can execute fping!
Assuming your hobbit user is "hobbit" you'll need to either a) change the group owner of /usr/sbin/fping to hobbit or b) add hobbit to group adm or c) make it so everyone can r-x /usr/sbin/fping
On 12/19/07, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I've just got through installing a fresh version of hobbit and now everything looks great except for the "conn" status which is showing up white and showing "Hobbit system error".
bb-network.log :
2007-12-19 13:15:10 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed) 2007-12-19 13:15:10 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied
-rwsr-x--- 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping
-rwsr-x--- 1 root hobbit 71927 Apr 13 2007 /usr/libexec/hobbit/server/bin/hobbitping
TIA,
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701
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UNIX/Linux thing -- you have to be root to use a privileged port ( < 1024) unless SELinux gets around it. The first entry in your list below shows the "set uid" bit has been set, which means /usr/sbin/fping will run as root:adm no matter who launches it. Your particular Linux distribution/package output is not necessarily representative of all systems, Josh.
By the way, I for one admire the way you have quickly advanced from "Hobbit newbie" to a key person who tries to help others on this list...
Happy Holidays!
GLH
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:40 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
I didn't say anything about user name - only the group or
global.
Your options are...
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping
-rwsr-x--- 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping #add
hobbituser to group adm -rwsr-x--- 1 root hobbit 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping #add hobbituser to group adm
On 12/19/07, Hubbard, Greg L < greg.hubbard at eds.com
<mailto:greg.hubbard at eds.com> > wrote:
fping has to bet suid root so it can run.. there should
be something in fping doc on how to do this.
From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:28 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts Modify the permissions so that the hobbit user can execute fping! Assuming your hobbit user is "hobbit" you'll need to either a) change the group owner of /usr/sbin/fping to hobbit or b) add hobbit to group adm or c) make it so everyone can r-x /usr/sbin/fping On 12/19/07, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I've just got through installing a fresh
version of hobbit and now everything looks great except for the "conn" status which is showing up white and showing "Hobbit system error". bb-network.log : 2007-12-19 13:15:10 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed) 2007-12-19 13:15:10 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied -rwsr-x--- 1 root adm 35281 Mar 7 2007 /usr/sbin/fping -rwsr-x--- 1 root hobbit 71927 Apr 13 2007
/usr/libexec/hobbit/server/bin/hobbitping TIA, Frank M. Ramaekers Jr. Systems Programmer MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE American Income Life Insurance Co. Phone: (254)761-6649 1200 Wooded Acres Dr. Fax: (254)741-5777 Waco, Texas 76701
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I tried that and it didn't help:
2007-12-19 14:09:19 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed)
2007-12-19 14:09:19 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied
/etc/group
adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon,hobbit
On Dec 19, 2007 2:14 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I tried that and it didn't help:
2007-12-19 14:09:19 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed)
2007-12-19 14:09:19 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied
/etc/group
adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon,hobbit
Did you stop and restart hobbit after changing the /etc/group file?? If you start it in a terminal window, you'll probably need to logout and log back in.
Ralph Mitchell
Do an su hobbit Then try /usr/sbin/fping 4.2.2.2 and see if you can execute it there.
On 12/19/07, Ralph Mitchell <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 19, 2007 2:14 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I tried that and it didn't help:
2007-12-19 14:09:19 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed)
2007-12-19 14:09:19 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied
/etc/group
adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon,hobbit
Did you stop and restart hobbit after changing the /etc/group file?? If you start it in a terminal window, you'll probably need to logout and log back in.
Ralph Mitchell
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Seems that I CAN do that:
su - hobbit
-bash-3.1$ /usr/sbin/fping 4.2.2.2
4.2.2.2 is alive
-bash-3.1$
and
sudo -u hobbit fping 4.2.2.2
4.2.2.2 is alive
So, perhaps it has to do with hobbitping?
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer
MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.
Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.
Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas 76701
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:40 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
Do an su hobbit Then try /usr/sbin/fping 4.2.2.2 and see if you can execute it there.
On 12/19/07, Ralph Mitchell < ralphmitchell at gmail.com <mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com> > wrote:
On Dec 19, 2007 2:14 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers < FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I tried that and it didn't help:
2007-12-19 14:09:19 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping
-Ae' (exec failed)
2007-12-19 14:09:19 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission
denied
/etc/group
adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon,hobbit
Did you stop and restart hobbit after changing the /etc/group file?? If you start it in a terminal window, you'll probably need to logout and log back in.
Ralph Mitchell
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Can you do a
grep -i ping ~hobbit/server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg
then tell us what the FPING= is declared as, please?
On 12/19/07, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
Seems that I CAN do that:
su - hobbit
-bash-3.1$ /usr/sbin/fping 4.2.2.2
4.2.2.2 is alive
-bash-3.1$
and
sudo -u hobbit fping 4.2.2.2
4.2.2.2 is alive
So, perhaps it has to do with hobbitping?
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer
MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.
Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.
Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas 76701
*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:40 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
Do an su hobbit Then try /usr/sbin/fping 4.2.2.2 and see if you can execute it there.
On 12/19/07, *Ralph Mitchell* < ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
On Dec 19, 2007 2:14 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers < FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I tried that and it didn't help:
2007-12-19 14:09:19 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed)
2007-12-19 14:09:19 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied
/etc/group
adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon,hobbit
Did you stop and restart hobbit after changing the /etc/group file?? If you start it in a terminal window, you'll probably need to logout and log back in.
Ralph Mitchell
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]# grep -i ping /etc/hobbit/hobbitserver.cfg
Make sure the path includes the directories where you have fping, mail
and (optionally) ntpdate installed,
PINGCOLUMN="conn" # Column where the ping-test reports results.
CONNTEST="TRUE" # Should we 'ping' hosts ?
FPING="/usr/sbin/fping" # Path and options for the ping program.
TRACEROUTE="traceroute" # How to do traceroute on failing ping tests. Requires "trace" in bb-hosts.
TEST2RRD="cpu=la,disk,inode,qtree,memory,$PINGCOLUMN=tcp,http=tcp,dns=tc p,dig=tcp,time=ntpstat,vmstat,iostat,netstat,temperature,apache,bind,sen dmail,mailq,nmailq=mailq,socks,bea,iishealth,citrix,bbgen,bbtest,bbproxy ,hobbitd,files,procs=processes,ports,clock,lines"
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer
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American Income Life Insurance Co.
Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.
Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas 76701
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:54 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
Can you do a
grep -i ping ~hobbit/server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg
then tell us what the FPING= is declared as, please?
On 12/19/07, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
Seems that I CAN do that:
su - hobbit
-bash-3.1$ /usr/sbin/fping 4.2.2.2
4.2.2.2 is alive
-bash-3.1$
and
sudo -u hobbit fping 4.2.2.2
4.2.2.2 is alive
So, perhaps it has to do with hobbitping?
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer
MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.
Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.
Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco , Texas 76701
From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:40 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
Do an su hobbit Then try /usr/sbin/fping 4.2.2.2 and see if you can execute it there.
On 12/19/07, Ralph Mitchell < ralphmitchell at gmail.com <mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com> > wrote:
On Dec 19, 2007 2:14 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers < FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I tried that and it didn't help:
2007-12-19 14:09:19 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping
-Ae' (exec failed)
2007-12-19 14:09:19 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission
denied
/etc/group
adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon,hobbit
Did you stop and restart hobbit after changing the /etc/group file?? If you start it in a terminal window, you'll probably need to logout and log back in.
Ralph Mitchell
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Yes. I was su'ed as root and just 'service hobbit restart'. Still the same problem. I notice in my previous installation I simply turn-on world execute:
-rwsr-x--x 1 root adm 29850 Feb 16 2005 fping
But I don't think that is the proper solution, although probably not a problem in my case since my system will not have "real" users.
Thanks,
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer
MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.
Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.
Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas 76701
From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:30 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
On Dec 19, 2007 2:14 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I tried that and it didn't help:
2007-12-19 14:09:19 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping
-Ae' (exec failed)
2007-12-19 14:09:19 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission
denied
/etc/group
adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon,hobbit
Did you stop and restart hobbit after changing the /etc/group file?? If you start it in a terminal window, you'll probably need to logout and log back in.
Ralph Mitchell
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Well every *nix machine I've seen that is not Knoppix always has had...
-> ls -l which ping
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 33272 Jan 1 2006 /bin/ping*
On 12/19/07, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
Yes. I was su'ed as root and just 'service hobbit restart'. Still the same problem. I notice in my previous installation I simply turn-on world execute:
-rwsr-x--x 1 root adm 29850 Feb 16 2005 fping
But I don't think that is the proper solution, although probably not a problem in my case since my system will not have "real" users.
Thanks,
Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.
Systems Programmer
MCP, MCP+I, MCSE & RHCE
American Income Life Insurance Co.
Phone: (254)761-6649
1200 Wooded Acres Dr.
Fax: (254)741-5777
Waco, Texas 76701
*From:* Ralph Mitchell [mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:30 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] CONN status is white for all hosts
On Dec 19, 2007 2:14 PM, Frank M. Ramaekers <FRamaekers at ailife.com> wrote:
I tried that and it didn't help:
2007-12-19 14:09:19 Could not run the command '/usr/sbin/fping -Ae' (exec failed)
2007-12-19 14:09:19 hobbitping invocation failed: Permission denied
/etc/group
adm:x:4:root,adm,daemon,hobbit
Did you stop and restart hobbit after changing the /etc/group file?? If you start it in a terminal window, you'll probably need to logout and log back in.
Ralph Mitchell _____________________________________________________ This message contains information which is privileged and confidential and is solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any review, disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this in error, please destroy it immediately and notify us at PrivacyAct at ailife.com.
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