Just a quiet mature product, I suppose.
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 12, 2023, at 22:01, Galen Johnson <solitaryr at gmail.com> wrote:
? Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
=G=
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Yes, we're still out here.
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On 8/12/23 20:00, Galen Johnson wrote:
Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
=G=
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> On Behalf Of Galen Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM To: xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
[CAUTION] This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe. Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
=G=
Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE.
NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. The recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Studio Retail Trading Ltd and Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through their internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please let us know. You can find our available contact details by going to help.studio.co.uk and clicking ?Contact Us?.
No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ? (734) 384-6403 | | ? 1-734-915-1444 | ? Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com<http://www.la-z-boy.com> | facebook.com/lazboy<http://facebook.com/lazboy> | twitter.com/lazboy<http://twitter.com/lazboy> | youtube.com/lazboy<http://youtube.com/lazboy> [cid:smallerlzbonlylogoforsign_b8ca06bf-75b5-4619-8093-c9418c455597.png] From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> On Behalf Of Neil Simmonds Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM To: xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>> On Behalf Of Galen Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM To: xymon >> xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> <xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>> Subject: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
[CAUTION] This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe. Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
=G=
Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE.
NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. The recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Studio Retail Trading Ltd and Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through their internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please let us know. You can find our available contact details by going to help.studio.co.uk and clicking ?Contact Us?.
This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense.
Ralph Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp < Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
*Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | * Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com | facebook.com/lazboy | twitter.com/lazboy | youtube.com/lazboy [image: Smaller LZB Only Logo for Sign.png]
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on?
*[CAUTION]* This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe.
Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
=G=
Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE.
*NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. The recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Studio Retail Trading Ltd and Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through their internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please let us know. You can find our available contact details by going to help.studio.co.uk <http://help.studio.co.uk> and clicking ?Contact Us?.*
This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a long time.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense.
Ralph Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp < Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
*Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | * Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com | facebook.com/lazboy | twitter.com/lazboy | youtube.com/lazboy [image: Smaller LZB Only Logo for Sign.png]
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on?
*[CAUTION]* This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe.
Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
=G=
Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE.
*NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. The recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Studio Retail Trading Ltd and Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through their internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please let us know. You can find our available contact details by going to help.studio.co.uk <http://help.studio.co.uk> and clicking ?Contact Us?.*
This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
I would be OK with contributing some as well?. But that?s not what Xymon needs. Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant. That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc. Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects. I?m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it.
Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ? (734) 384-6403 | | ? 1-734-915-1444 | Email: Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com
From: Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM To: Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> Cc: Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a long time.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com<mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com>> wrote: I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense.
Ralph Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com<mailto:Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>> wrote: No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ? (734) 384-6403 | | ? 1-734-915-1444 | ? Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com<mailto:Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> www.la-z-boy.com<http://www.la-z-boy.com> | facebook.com/lazboy<http://facebook.com/lazboy> | twitter.com/lazboy<http://twitter.com/lazboy> | youtube.com/lazboy<http://youtube.com/lazboy> [cid:image001.png at 01D9CE9E.C5C077A0] From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>> On Behalf Of Neil Simmonds Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM To: xymon >> xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> <xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>> On Behalf Of Galen Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM To: xymon >> xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> <xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com>> Subject: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
[CAUTION] This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe. Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
=G=
Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE.
NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. The recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Studio Retail Trading Ltd and Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through their internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please let us know. You can find our available contact details by going to help.studio.co.uk<http://help.studio.co.uk> and clicking ?Contact Us?.
This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com<mailto:Xymon at xymon.com> http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com<mailto:Xymon at xymon.com> http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03?AM Scot Kreienkamp < Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well?. But that?s not what Xymon needs. Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant. That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc. Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects. I?m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it.
*Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | Email: Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com
*From:* Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM *To:* Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> *Cc:* Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a long time.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense.
Ralph Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp < Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
*Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | * Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com | facebook.com/lazboy | twitter.com/lazboy | youtube.com/lazboy [image: Smaller LZB Only Logo for Sign.png]
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on?
*[CAUTION]* This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe.
Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
=G=
Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE.
*NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. The recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Studio Retail Trading Ltd and Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through their internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please let us know. You can find our available contact details by going to help.studio.co.uk <http://help.studio.co.uk> and clicking ?Contact Us?.*
This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you.
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Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
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Hellor Xymon Lovers I'm not a coder either, but I see there's quite a bit of brains out there (and I think if there are enough of us we can try to maintain and improve it). Perhaps the current officials could first tell us what their plans are and how we could help them. On our side, we can perhaps encourage them: it would be good to list what we can bring to the project, as some have done! - I try to maintain "devmon" (on the github repo) and some other xymon tool (I did try to understand how devmon is integrate to xymon, but I am not an expert in Xymon code) - I am a telecom engineer - I can give some some time - I am an independent and I have some infra to play with - Usually I speak swiss-french (so sorry for all my mistakes) Bruno
On 14.08.2023 18:36, James Louis wrote:
Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well?. But that?s not what Xymon needs.? Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant.? That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc.? Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects.? I?m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it. *Scot Kreienkamp?| Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 |( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | Email: Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com *From:* Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM *To:* Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> *Cc:* Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a long time. On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Xymon at several different?employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada.? My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away.? He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel.? We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that.? We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines.? I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM.? In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents.? It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents. @Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel.? It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense. Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote: No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined.? Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more. *Scot Kreienkamp?| Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162|((734) 384-6403 | | )1-734-915-1444| *Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com <http://www.la-z-boy.com>?| facebook.com/lazboy <http://facebook.com/lazboy>??| twitter.com/lazboy <http://twitter.com/lazboy>| youtube.com/lazboy <http://youtube.com/lazboy> Smaller LZB Only Logo for Sign.png *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that. It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool. *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on? *[CAUTION]*This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe. Nothing since May seems a bit suss. =G= Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. 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I've been using this product since the late 90's when it was called BigBrother, got sold to Quest, was rewritten as Hobbit, had to change it's name, and finally became Xymon. On one hand it's core tools just work and easily do what I need them to do.? On the other hand there's additional features that it doesn't handle easily that we need in modern environments.? In my opinion the competing products have gone overboard with 'additional features' and have bloated products that are missing basic things for the core tools. I have noticed Xymon getting stale for years now and had the idea in the back of my mind for my company to start maintaining it, but that seems like a large undertaking for an Open Source product I didn't create, and currently don't have the staff to do it justice.? I love the product and the community, but if no one will take on this challenge, it will sadly die.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/xymon/ What happened to JC and Henrik?? Life gets in the way I guess.
Thank You, Kris Springer Systems Admin I/O Network Administration support at ionetworkadmin.com https://www.ionetworkadmin.com
On 8/14/23 10:58, Bruno Manzoni wrote:
Hellor Xymon Lovers I'm not a coder either, but I see there's quite a bit of brains out there (and I think if there are enough of us we can try to maintain and improve it). Perhaps the current officials could first tell us what their plans are and how we could help them. On our side, we can perhaps encourage them: it would be good to list what we can bring to the project, as some have done! - I try to maintain "devmon" (on the github repo) and some other xymon tool (I did try to understand how devmon is integrate to xymon, but I am not an expert in Xymon code) - I am a telecom engineer - I can give some some time - I am an independent and I have some infra to play with - Usually I speak swiss-french (so sorry for all my mistakes) Bruno On 14.08.2023 18:36, James Louis wrote:
Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well?. But that?s not what Xymon needs. Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant.? That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc.? Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects.? I?m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it. *Scot Kreienkamp?| Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 |?( (734) 384-6403 | | ?) 1-734-915-1444 |? Email: Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com *From:* Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM *To:* Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> *Cc:* Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a long time. On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Xymon at several different?employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada.? My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away.? He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel.? We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that.? We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines.? I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM.? In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents.? It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents. @Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel.? It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense. Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote: No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined.? Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more. *Scot Kreienkamp?| Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162|((734) 384-6403 | | )1-734-915-1444| *Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com <http://www.la-z-boy.com>?| facebook.com/lazboy <http://facebook.com/lazboy>??| twitter.com/lazboy <http://twitter.com/lazboy>| youtube.com/lazboy <http://youtube.com/lazboy> Smaller LZB Only Logo for Sign.png *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that. It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool. *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on? *[CAUTION]*This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe. Nothing since May seems a bit suss. =G= Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. 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I have also used Xymon and Big Brother for decades. I contributed to it several times, including several add-on monitors. I am now retired, but I still use Xymon at home to monitor my home network, running it on a Rocky Linux 8.8 install on a small computer. For my home network, I have created some custom monitors for my ASUS mesh router, HP printers, Foscam security cameras, and SolarEdge solar panels. I am a coder so I am willing to help keep Xymon alive. I am willing to share my custom monitors as well to anyone that is interested.
Tom Schmidt
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 11:07?AM Bruno Manzoni <bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch> wrote:
Hellor Xymon Lovers
I'm not a coder either, but I see there's quite a bit of brains out there (and I think if there are enough of us we can try to maintain and improve it). Perhaps the current officials could first tell us what their plans are and how we could help them. On our side, we can perhaps encourage them: it would be good to list what we can bring to the project, as some have done!
- I try to maintain "devmon" (on the github repo) and some other xymon tool (I did try to understand how devmon is integrate to xymon, but I am not an expert in Xymon code)
- I am a telecom engineer
- I can give some some time
- I am an independent and I have some infra to play with
- Usually I speak swiss-french (so sorry for all my mistakes)
Bruno
On 14.08.2023 18:36, James Louis wrote:
Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03?AM Scot Kreienkamp < Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well?. But that?s not what Xymon needs. Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant. That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc. Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects. I?m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it.
*Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | Email: Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com
*From:* Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM *To:* Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> *Cc:* Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a long time.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense.
Ralph Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp < Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
*Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | * Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com | facebook.com/lazboy | twitter.com/lazboy | youtube.com/lazboy [image: Smaller LZB Only Logo for Sign.png]
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on?
*[CAUTION]* This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe.
Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
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Hi all,
As an add-on writer, I'd like Xymon staying alive as long as possible. AFAIK there is one (Tom Schmidt) coder who could work on it, but no one else is proficient in C/C++ ? On my side I can host/admin a website, and a demo platform. I'd be happy to share my experience (18 years since using BigB for the first time), and share some thoughts on possible evolution.
Le 14/08/2023 19:42, Tom Schmidt a ?crit?:
I have also used Xymon and Big Brother for decades. I contributed to it several times, including several add-on monitors. I am now retired, but I still use Xymon at home to monitor my home network, running it on a Rocky Linux 8.8 install on a small computer. For my home network, I have created some custom monitors for my ASUS mesh router, HP printers, Foscam security cameras, and SolarEdge solar panels. I am a coder so I am willing to help keep Xymon alive. I am willing to share my custom monitors as well to anyone that is interested.
Tom Schmidt
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 11:07?AM Bruno Manzoni <bruno.manzoni at ubi-network.ch> wrote:
Hellor Xymon Lovers
I'm not a coder either, but I see there's quite a bit of brains out there (and I think if there are enough of us we can try to maintain and improve it). Perhaps the current officials could first tell us what their plans are and how we could help them. On our side, we can perhaps encourage them: it would be good to list what we can bring to the project, as some have done!
- I try to maintain "devmon" (on the github repo) and some other xymon tool (I did try to understand how devmon is integrate to xymon, but I am not an expert in Xymon code)
- I am a telecom engineer
- I can give some some time
- I am an independent and I have some infra to play with
- Usually I speak swiss-french (so sorry for all my mistakes)
Bruno
On 14.08.2023 18:36, James Louis wrote:
Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well?. But that?s not what Xymon needs. Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant. That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc. Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects. I?m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it.
Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 | ( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | Email: Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com
From: Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM To: Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> Cc: Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a long time.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense.
Ralph Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
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From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> On Behalf Of Neil Simmonds Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM To: xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> On Behalf Of Galen Johnson Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM To: xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
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Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
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Hello all,
Catching up with the thread from these past few days, this seems the proper place for me to chime back in.
While it's possible to call xymon simply a quiet, stable project (which it is, with many installs simply and quietly doing their jobs in the background out there), it's also very fair to say that the project -- or at least the plans I (and, I'll assume, Henrik) had for it has indeed reached a stalling point.
That doesn't mean it can't come out of a stall! But it does mean it takes effort to resume work on.
Following on with others' comments, the Xymon codebase is somewhat... intense. When I was performing near-daily performance enhancement and tweaks for Xymon for $dayjob, there was a solid ability to stay in the zone and I could add features as needed at a rapid clip. Since then, as I moved on to other positions and responsibilities, my day-to-day involvement with the code base dried up, and getting back into it can be difficult unless you're doing a lot of C elsewhere and not spending it cursing at kubernetes.
In short, there's a significant ramp-up and re-ramp-up involved, as one might expect from any mature codebase. While the underlying documentation for use and administration is extremely thorough IMHO, an Intro for Devs document was something we never followed through well on.
Development plans had at one point been something like:
- direct SSL support and/or message signing (probably the most frequently requested things, for those for whom stunnel-wrapping was not an option)
- IPv6 (some of which is working in the 4.4 alpha branch)
- abstraction of remaining formatting to simple CSS to allow for skinning and dashboarding
I'd also had in mind things like a JSON endpoint version of xymondx{log|board}, and a REST-based C shim .cgi, both of which could help folks integrating Xymon with other monitoring systems out there.
Of course, the initial target was simply the forklifting of the many performance enhancements and tweaks from the Terabithia RPMs into the source tarball. This got pretty far there in the 4.4 branch, with only a few major components not integrated. However debugging those components and patches stalled out, especially with the need to maintain robust pan-*nix compatibility.
That, ultimately, is where we are now.
To kick things off: In the past, there had been requests to move the source to Github in the hopes of creating an easier onramp for patch submissions via PRs, bug reports, and the like. While I personally feel like SF and svn would still work, I think this probably deserves to be back on the table.
In addition, Henrik had mentioned that we'll need a mailing list migration at some point coming up soon.
Beyond that, to be honest I'm not sure what the next, best step is to take. Life had indeed gotten in the way, to follow from the comment below, as $dayjob+=4 and other responsibilities cropped up.
I really welcome the entire community's input here going forward.
Regards, J.C. Cleaver
On Mon, August 14, 2023 09:58, Bruno Manzoni wrote:
Hellor Xymon Lovers I'm not a coder either, but I see there's quite a bit of brains out there (and I think if there are enough of us we can try to maintain and improve it). Perhaps the current officials could first tell us what their plans are and how we could help them. On our side, we can perhaps encourage them: it would be good to list what we can bring to the project, as some have done! - I try to maintain "devmon" (on the github repo) and some other xymon tool (I did try to understand how devmon is integrate to xymon, but I am not an expert in Xymon code) - I am a telecom engineer - I can give some some time - I am an independent and I have some infra to play with - Usually I speak swiss-french (so sorry for all my mistakes) Bruno
On 14.08.2023 18:36, James Louis wrote:
Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03???AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well???. But that???s notwhat Xymon needs.?? Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant.?? That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc.?? Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects.?? I???m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it.
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*From:* Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM *To:* Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> *Cc:* Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a longtime.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32???AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Xymon at several different??employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada.?? My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away.?? He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel.?? We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that.?? We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines.?? I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM.?? In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents.?? It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents. @Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel.?? It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense. Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41???AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote: No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it???s safe to say it???s flatlined.?? Sad tosee it fade, I???ve been using it for a decade or more.
*Scot Kreienkamp??| Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162|((734) 384-6403 | | )1-734-915-1444| *Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com <http://www.la-z-boy.com>??| facebook.com/lazboy <http://facebook.com/lazboy>????| twitter.com/lazboy <http://twitter.com/lazboy>| youtube.com/lazboy <http://youtube.com/lazboy> Smaller LZB Only Logo for Sign.png *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that. It feels like Xymon has become a static project that???s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it???s a great tool. *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on? *[CAUTION]*This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe. Nothing since May seems a bit suss. =G= Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE. *NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. The recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Studio Retail Trading Ltd and Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through their internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please let us know. You can find our available contact details by going to help.studio.co.uk <http://help.studio.co.uk> and clicking ???Contact Us???.* This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon-- *Jim Louis
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If i had to vote for something: bring the code to a git(hub?) repo so people with required skills and time could contribute.
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Le 14 ao?t 2023, 22:57, ? 22:57, "J.C. Cleaver" <cleaver at terabithia.org> a ?crit:
Hello all,
Catching up with the thread from these past few days, this seems the proper place for me to chime back in.
While it's possible to call xymon simply a quiet, stable project (which it is, with many installs simply and quietly doing their jobs in the background out there), it's also very fair to say that the project -- or at least the plans I (and, I'll assume, Henrik) had for it has indeed reached a stalling point.
That doesn't mean it can't come out of a stall! But it does mean it takes effort to resume work on.
Following on with others' comments, the Xymon codebase is somewhat... intense. When I was performing near-daily performance enhancement and tweaks for Xymon for $dayjob, there was a solid ability to stay in the zone and I could add features as needed at a rapid clip. Since then, as I moved on to other positions and responsibilities, my day-to-day involvement with the code base dried up, and getting back into it can be difficult unless you're doing a lot of C elsewhere and not spending it cursing at kubernetes.
In short, there's a significant ramp-up and re-ramp-up involved, as one might expect from any mature codebase. While the underlying documentation for use and administration is extremely thorough IMHO, an Intro for Devs document was something we never followed through well on.
Development plans had at one point been something like:
- direct SSL support and/or message signing (probably the most frequently requested things, for those for whom stunnel-wrapping was not an option)
- IPv6 (some of which is working in the 4.4 alpha branch)
- abstraction of remaining formatting to simple CSS to allow for skinning and dashboarding
I'd also had in mind things like a JSON endpoint version of xymondx{log|board}, and a REST-based C shim .cgi, both of which could help folks integrating Xymon with other monitoring systems out there.
Of course, the initial target was simply the forklifting of the many performance enhancements and tweaks from the Terabithia RPMs into the source tarball. This got pretty far there in the 4.4 branch, with only a few major components not integrated. However debugging those components and patches stalled out, especially with the need to maintain robust pan-*nix compatibility.
That, ultimately, is where we are now.
To kick things off: In the past, there had been requests to move the source to Github in the hopes of creating an easier onramp for patch submissions via PRs, bug reports, and the like. While I personally feel like SF and svn would still work, I think this probably deserves to be back on the table.
In addition, Henrik had mentioned that we'll need a mailing list migration at some point coming up soon.
Beyond that, to be honest I'm not sure what the next, best step is to take. Life had indeed gotten in the way, to follow from the comment below, as $dayjob+=4 and other responsibilities cropped up.
I really welcome the entire community's input here going forward.
Regards, J.C. Cleaver
On Mon, August 14, 2023 09:58, Bruno Manzoni wrote:
Hellor Xymon Lovers I'm not a coder either, but I see there's quite a bit of brains out there (and I think if there are enough of us we can try to maintain and improve it). Perhaps the current officials could first tell us what their plans are and how we could help them. On our side, we can perhaps encourage them: it would be good to list what we can bring to the project, as some have done! - I try to maintain "devmon" (on the github repo) and some other xymon tool (I did try to understand how devmon is integrate to xymon, but I am not an expert in Xymon code) - I am a telecom engineer - I can give some some time - I am an independent and I have some infra to play with - Usually I speak swiss-french (so sorry for all my mistakes) Bruno
On 14.08.2023 18:36, James Louis wrote:
Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03???AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well???. But that???snot what Xymon needs.?? Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant.?? That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc.?? Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects.?? I???m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it.
*Scot Kreienkamp??| Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-BoyCorporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162 |( (734) 384-6403 | | ) 1-734-915-1444 | Email: Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com
*From:* Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM *To:* Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> *Cc:* Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a longtime.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32???AM Ralph M<ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Xymon at several different??employers sinceit was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada.?? My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away.?? He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel.?? We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that.?? We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines.?? I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM.?? In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents.?? It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel.?? It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense. Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41???AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote: No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it???s safe to say it???s flatlined.?? Sadto see it fade, I???ve been using it for a decade or more.
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*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that. It feels like Xymon has become a static project that???s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it???s a great tool. *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on? *[CAUTION]*This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they aresafe.
Nothing since May seems a bit suss. =G= Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail TradingLimited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE.
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We recently migrated our server to SLES15 SP4 and found there are a few network tools missing in the base, arp, netstat, ifconfig and route are supposed to be replaced by "ip" and "ss" command. While similar the output of these commands differs from the traditional tools so I guess that would interfere with the processing of the command output. For now it's solved by installing net-tools-deprecated but this might not be available in future versions so we might need support for these commands. I don't now if that is also the direction for other distributions, but it's at least the case for Suse and OpenSuse.
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-----Original Message----- From: Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> On Behalf Of J.C. Cleaver Sent: Monday, 14 August 2023 22:51 To: xymon at xymon.com Subject: [Xymon] Xymon, community, updates, and directions (was Re: Is this thing on?)
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Hello all,
Catching up with the thread from these past few days, this seems the proper place for me to chime back in.
While it's possible to call xymon simply a quiet, stable project (which it is, with many installs simply and quietly doing their jobs in the background out there), it's also very fair to say that the project -- or at least the plans I (and, I'll assume, Henrik) had for it has indeed reached a stalling point.
That doesn't mean it can't come out of a stall! But it does mean it takes effort to resume work on.
Following on with others' comments, the Xymon codebase is somewhat... intense. When I was performing near-daily performance enhancement and tweaks for Xymon for $dayjob, there was a solid ability to stay in the zone and I could add features as needed at a rapid clip. Since then, as I moved on to other positions and responsibilities, my day-to-day involvement with the code base dried up, and getting back into it can be difficult unless you're doing a lot of C elsewhere and not spending it cursing at kubernetes.
In short, there's a significant ramp-up and re-ramp-up involved, as one might expect from any mature codebase. While the underlying documentation for use and administration is extremely thorough IMHO, an Intro for Devs document was something we never followed through well on.
Development plans had at one point been something like:
- direct SSL support and/or message signing (probably the most frequently requested things, for those for whom stunnel-wrapping was not an option)
- IPv6 (some of which is working in the 4.4 alpha branch)
- abstraction of remaining formatting to simple CSS to allow for skinning and dashboarding
I'd also had in mind things like a JSON endpoint version of xymondx{log|board}, and a REST-based C shim .cgi, both of which could help folks integrating Xymon with other monitoring systems out there.
Of course, the initial target was simply the forklifting of the many performance enhancements and tweaks from the Terabithia RPMs into the source tarball. This got pretty far there in the 4.4 branch, with only a few major components not integrated. However debugging those components and patches stalled out, especially with the need to maintain robust pan-*nix compatibility.
That, ultimately, is where we are now.
To kick things off: In the past, there had been requests to move the source to Github in the hopes of creating an easier onramp for patch submissions via PRs, bug reports, and the like. While I personally feel like SF and svn would still work, I think this probably deserves to be back on the table.
In addition, Henrik had mentioned that we'll need a mailing list migration at some point coming up soon.
Beyond that, to be honest I'm not sure what the next, best step is to take. Life had indeed gotten in the way, to follow from the comment below, as $dayjob+=4 and other responsibilities cropped up.
I really welcome the entire community's input here going forward.
Regards, J.C. Cleaver
On Mon, August 14, 2023 09:58, Bruno Manzoni wrote:
Hellor Xymon Lovers I'm not a coder either, but I see there's quite a bit of brains out there (and I think if there are enough of us we can try to maintain and improve it). Perhaps the current officials could first tell us what their plans are and how we could help them. On our side, we can perhaps encourage them: it would be good to list what we can bring to the project, as some have done! - I try to maintain "devmon" (on the github repo) and some other xymon tool (I did try to understand how devmon is integrate to xymon, but I am not an expert in Xymon code) - I am a telecom engineer - I can give some some time - I am an independent and I have some infra to play with - Usually I speak swiss-french (so sorry for all my mistakes) Bruno
On 14.08.2023 18:36, James Louis wrote:
Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03?EUR?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well?EUR?. Butthat?EUR(tm)s not what Xymon needs.? Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant.? That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc.? Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects.? I?EUR(tm)m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it.
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*From:* Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM *To:* Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> *Cc:* Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a longtime.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?EUR?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote: I've been using Xymon at several different? employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada.? My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away.? He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel.? We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that.? We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines.? I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM.? In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents.? It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents. @Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel.? It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense. Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?EUR?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote: No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?EUR(tm)s safe to say it?EUR(tm)sflatlined.? Sad to see it fade, I?EUR(tm)ve been using it for a decade or more.
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Hi,
it seems this ?Is Xymon dead?? thread pops up from time to time. Which is understandable, given the lack of new releases and development work.
If someone would like to pick it up and dust it off in a major way, then I would suggest moving away from C as the primary language. Python would probably have a lot more potential developers. Also consider replacing the proprietary Xymon protocol with a REST API instead - then you could use standard http modules to talk to Xymon. Look at what each tool does, and reimplement it in a more modern way.
But that requires more than one enthusiastic developer.
Although I do lurk on the mailing list occasionally, like JC I no longer have all of the codebase engrained in my brain. And my use of Xymon is strictly personal. So I won?t be able to contribute much.
And yes, the mailing list needs a new home soon.
Regards, Henrik
Den 14. aug. 2023 kl. 21.57 skrev J.C. Cleaver <cleaver at terabithia.org>:
? Hello all,
Catching up with the thread from these past few days, this seems the proper place for me to chime back in.
While it's possible to call xymon simply a quiet, stable project (which it is, with many installs simply and quietly doing their jobs in the background out there), it's also very fair to say that the project -- or at least the plans I (and, I'll assume, Henrik) had for it has indeed reached a stalling point.
That doesn't mean it can't come out of a stall! But it does mean it takes effort to resume work on.
Following on with others' comments, the Xymon codebase is somewhat... intense. When I was performing near-daily performance enhancement and tweaks for Xymon for $dayjob, there was a solid ability to stay in the zone and I could add features as needed at a rapid clip. Since then, as I moved on to other positions and responsibilities, my day-to-day involvement with the code base dried up, and getting back into it can be difficult unless you're doing a lot of C elsewhere and not spending it cursing at kubernetes.
In short, there's a significant ramp-up and re-ramp-up involved, as one might expect from any mature codebase. While the underlying documentation for use and administration is extremely thorough IMHO, an Intro for Devs document was something we never followed through well on.
Development plans had at one point been something like:
- direct SSL support and/or message signing (probably the most frequently requested things, for those for whom stunnel-wrapping was not an option)
- IPv6 (some of which is working in the 4.4 alpha branch)
- abstraction of remaining formatting to simple CSS to allow for skinning and dashboarding
I'd also had in mind things like a JSON endpoint version of xymondx{log|board}, and a REST-based C shim .cgi, both of which could help folks integrating Xymon with other monitoring systems out there.
Of course, the initial target was simply the forklifting of the many performance enhancements and tweaks from the Terabithia RPMs into the source tarball. This got pretty far there in the 4.4 branch, with only a few major components not integrated. However debugging those components and patches stalled out, especially with the need to maintain robust pan-*nix compatibility.
That, ultimately, is where we are now.
To kick things off: In the past, there had been requests to move the source to Github in the hopes of creating an easier onramp for patch submissions via PRs, bug reports, and the like. While I personally feel like SF and svn would still work, I think this probably deserves to be back on the table.
In addition, Henrik had mentioned that we'll need a mailing list migration at some point coming up soon.
Beyond that, to be honest I'm not sure what the next, best step is to take. Life had indeed gotten in the way, to follow from the comment below, as $dayjob+=4 and other responsibilities cropped up.
I really welcome the entire community's input here going forward.
Regards, J.C. Cleaver
On Mon, August 14, 2023 09:58, Bruno Manzoni wrote: Hellor Xymon Lovers I'm not a coder either, but I see there's quite a bit of brains out there (and I think if there are enough of us we can try to maintain and improve it). Perhaps the current officials could first tell us what their plans are and how we could help them. On our side, we can perhaps encourage them: it would be good to list what we can bring to the project, as some have done! - I try to maintain "devmon" (on the github repo) and some other xymon tool (I did try to understand how devmon is integrate to xymon, but I am not an expert in Xymon code) - I am a telecom engineer - I can give some some time - I am an independent and I have some infra to play with - Usually I speak swiss-french (so sorry for all my mistakes) Bruno
On 14.08.2023 18:36, James Louis wrote: Is the Terabithia RPM also dead?
Jim
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:03?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
I would be OK with contributing some as well?. But that?s not what Xymon needs. Xymon needs caretaker(s) to keep it relevant. That means code updates to fix bugs, adapt it to new OS versions, etc. Otherwise it will fade away to obscurity like many other open source projects. I?m not a coder either, or I would gladly give some time to it.
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*From:* Rod <rodbass63 at gmail.com> *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 10:56 AM *To:* Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> *Cc:* Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com>; xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
I would like to continue the legacy. I'm not a developer but I'm willing to pay for hosting space and the domain name to keep it going for as long as I'm alive. Its kept me employed for a long time.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents. @Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense. Ralph Mitchell On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp <Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote: No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad tosee it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
*Scot Kreienkamp | Senior Linux Systems Engineer | La-Z-Boy Corporate* One La-Z-Boy Drive | Monroe, Michigan 48162|((734) 384-6403 | | )1-734-915-1444| *Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com www.la-z-boy.com <http://www.la-z-boy.com> | facebook.com/lazboy <http://facebook.com/lazboy> | twitter.com/lazboy <http://twitter.com/lazboy>| youtube.com/lazboy <http://youtube.com/lazboy> Smaller LZB Only Logo for Sign.png *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on? Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that. It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool. *From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on? *[CAUTION]*This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe. Nothing since May seems a bit suss. =G= Studio is a trading name of Studio Retail Trading Limited (Company no. 03994833), which is an introducer of credit not a lender. Studio Pay is provided by Frasers Group Financial Services Limited (Registered Company no. 00718151), which is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority (FRN 311908) for consumer credit and general insurance and a member of the Finance and Leasing Association. Both companies are registered in England and their registered office is: Church Bridge House Henry Street Accrington BB5 4EE. *NOTE: This email and any information contained within or attached in a separate file is confidential and intended solely for the Individual to whom it is addressed. The information or data included is solely for the purpose indicated or previously agreed. Any information or data included with this e-mail remains the property of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. The recipient will refrain from utilising the information for any purpose other than that indicated and upon request will destroy the information and remove it from their records. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Studio Retail Trading Ltd or Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. No warranties or assurances are made in relation to the safety and content of this e-mail and any attachments. No liability is accepted for any consequences arising from it. Studio Retail Trading Ltd and Frasers Group Financial Services Ltd reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through their internal and external networks. If you have received this email in error please let us know. You can find our available contact details by going to help.studio.co.uk <http://help.studio.co.uk> and clicking ?Contact Us?.* This message is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain privileged, confidential information which is exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you are not the intended recipient, you are strictly prohibited from disseminating or distributing this information (other than to the intended recipient) or copying this information. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail or by telephone at the above number. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon_______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
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I too have worked with Hobbit/BigBrother/Xymon for decades. We too have been looking at Xymon alternatives. We were looking at Zabbix but with Solarwinds embedded everywhere, we will probably go with it fully to replace Xymon.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense.
Ralph Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp < Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
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*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Galen Johnson *Sent:* Sunday, August 13, 2023 3:01 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* [Xymon] Is this thing on?
*[CAUTION]* This is an external email. Do not click links or open any attachments unless you are sure they are safe.
Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
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I'm also into Bigbrother/Hobbit/Xymon business since decades, and from time to time I was forced to use other monitoring tools but never found something similar in being as flexible and powerful like Xymon, and on the other hand so simple to maintain and extend if needed. My biggest installation monitored 10k hosts and 400k rrd files on an 8 core RedHat server and 64GB memory easily. I have a lot of extension scripts to share but was kind of skeptical if Xymonton is still the place to do this. Also I changed the gifs a lot to create a more modern style (and increase the management acceptance). But I have to admit I'm kind of tired about the discussions with security team and management team about the future of Xymon, and that they don't want to opt for a monitoring solution which didn't got updates since years. I think Xymon is so mature and stable that it did not need regular new versions (if installed and run at non root environments, what is easily possible, it is more save and stable as all these tools with privileged access needs), but it is a always the first and basic question. Even if there is a very helpful community, if there is no update it is not acceptable from a managements standpoint. I can live with the current Xymon framework (that's how I use it for my customers), and do not need a configuration GUI or database as backend. I also do not need rpm packages as I'm always compile the servers for my needs (non root, no standard path,...). What I really would like to see is encrypted communication (the first question of every customer, as this they have heard is absolutely necessary these days. I know that there are workarounds possible, but they are, hm, workarounds...). And a well known and accepted place for extensions (remember deadcat? strange name, but i learned a lot there). I think I will give Xymonton another try, it is still online and available.
Btw: It is not possible to sign up for the Xymon user group anymore (we are long time users and can comment, but no new users are allowed). If someone can take over this mail service this would be more important then code updates imho, to show that the project is still alive.
I like to see a lot of well known names taking part in this discussion, and hope this will initiate some activity again for all of us Xymonters.
And: I'm still grateful to Henrik for such an incredible work and product. I never had any issue caused by Xymon monitoring with dozens of installations for years, but a lot (and you can take this literally) by all other systems I had the "joy" to work with.
Norbert
Am Mo., 14. Aug. 2023 um 21:25 Uhr schrieb Zoltan Forray <zforray at vcu.edu>:
I too have worked with Hobbit/BigBrother/Xymon for decades. We too have been looking at Xymon alternatives. We were looking at Zabbix but with Solarwinds embedded everywhere, we will probably go with it fully to replace Xymon.
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 10:32?AM Ralph M <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> wrote:
I've been using Xymon at several different employers since it was BigBrother owned by a couple of guys in Canada. My current Senior VP wants Xymon to go away. He hasn't actually told me that directly, but I've heard it via another channel. We have SolarWinds on some machines, but I've never even seen the GUI for that. We're also distributing Oracle Enterprise Manager (OEM) to a bunch of machines. I don't know for sure, but I suspect a contracting company is whispering in my SVP's ear to sell support for OEM. In the meantime, my Xymon server has 878 days uptime and they're still trying to figure out how to install and configure the OEM agents. It's going to be tons of fun watching them try to replace all the little scripts I've written with OEM equivalents.
@Cristoph - I don't know if I can use stunnel. It's a military-related company and there are all kinds of restrictions that sometimes even make sense.
Ralph Mitchell
On Mon, Aug 14, 2023 at 9:41?AM Scot Kreienkamp < Scot.Kreienkamp at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
No new release since 2019, no activity on the mailing list, I think it?s safe to say it?s flatlined. Sad to see it fade, I?ve been using it for a decade or more.
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*From:* Xymon <xymon-bounces at xymon.com> *On Behalf Of *Neil Simmonds *Sent:* Monday, August 14, 2023 5:29 AM *To:* xymon >> xymon at xymon.com <xymon at xymon.com> *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] Is this thing on?
Is Xymon dying? No new release since 2019, There was a roadmap in 2015 that mention Versions 4.4 up to 5 but nothing seems to have moved on that.
It feels like Xymon has become a static project that?s going to fade away. That would be a shame as I for one think it?s a great tool.
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Nothing since May seems a bit suss.
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Hi Xymon Lovers,
Glad to see everyone still loves Xymon and ready to give more! *I've summarized this discussion *"Is this thing on"
*To move forward:** **Non-technical needs:*
*? Mailing list migration*, not possible to sign up for the Xymon user group anymore (*URGENT PROBLEM*) ??? Share community developed plugins/monitors (it seems some people may have a lot to share) ??? Several resources available if needed (developer, server web, demo platform, infra, maybe also money) ??? More than one enthusiastic developer (probably not only devs...) ??? Need a caretaker: updates to fix bugs, adapt to new OS versions, Terabithia RPM ??? Henrik won't be able to contribute much (but a little might also be good!) ??? A clearer organization ??? Wikibook information udpate
*Technical needs* *New features that we would like to have or that were planned*
??? Reports, communication encrypted, or at least authenticated, Direct SSL support and/or message signing (*MOST REQUESTED*) ??? Introductory document for developers ??? IPv6 (some of which is working in the 4.4 alpha branch) ??? Abstraction of remaining formatting to simple CSS to allow for skinning and dashboarding ??? JSON endpoint version of xymondx{log|board} ??? REST-based C shim .cgi, both of which could help folks integrating Xymon with other monitoring systems out there ??? Forklifting of the many performance enhancements and tweaks from the Terabithia RPMs into the source tarball. ??? Move the source to Github in the hopes of creating an easier onramp for patch submissions via PRs, bug reports ??? Rocky package. ??? Missing in the base, arp, netstat, ifconfig and route are supposed to be replaced by "ip" and "ss" commands. ??? Moving away from C as the primary language. Python would probably have a lot more potential developers (*MAIN SUGGESTION FROM HENRIK*) ??? Consider replacing the proprietary Xymon protocol with a REST API instead - then you could use standard http modules to talk to Xymon. Look at what each tool does, and reimplement it in a more modern way. ??? Fix all string management warnings reported by gcc.
*1. Please, let us know if all your info is in these lists *or *if you have other ideas *and *what do you think of all this now that you have an summary ?*
Also, I understood that Henrik and Japhet couldn't be much more involved, but they are invaluable people for this project. *@Henrik and Japhet: *
- Do we need a new Prophet ?
- So if yes, if someone/people would like to continue the project, what would you like to see from him/them: It would be great to have someone who would have your blessing
Bruno
On Tue, August 15, 2023 09:34, Bruno Manzoni wrote:
Hi Xymon Lovers,
Glad to see everyone still loves Xymon and ready to give more! *I've summarized this discussion *"Is this thing on"
*To move forward:** **Non-technical needs:*
*?? Mailing list migration*, not possible to sign up for the Xymon user group anymore (*URGENT PROBLEM*) ?????? Share community developed plugins/monitors (it seems some people may have a lot to share) ?????? Several resources available if needed (developer, server web, demo platform, infra, maybe also money) ?????? More than one enthusiastic developer (probably not only devs...) ?????? Need a caretaker: updates to fix bugs, adapt to new OS versions, Terabithia RPM ?????? Henrik won't be able to contribute much (but a little might also be good!) ?????? A clearer organization ?????? Wikibook information udpate
*Technical needs* *New features that we would like to have or that were planned*
?????? Reports, communication encrypted, or at least authenticated, Direct SSL support and/or message signing (*MOST REQUESTED*) ?????? Introductory document for developers ?????? IPv6 (some of which is working in the 4.4 alpha branch) ?????? Abstraction of remaining formatting to simple CSS to allow for skinning and dashboarding ?????? JSON endpoint version of xymondx{log|board} ?????? REST-based C shim .cgi, both of which could help folks integrating Xymon with other monitoring systems out there ?????? Forklifting of the many performance enhancements and tweaks from the Terabithia RPMs into the source tarball. ?????? Move the source to Github in the hopes of creating an easier onramp for patch submissions via PRs, bug reports ?????? Rocky package. ?????? Missing in the base, arp, netstat, ifconfig and route are supposed to be replaced by "ip" and "ss" commands. ?????? Moving away from C as the primary language. Python would probably have a lot more potential developers (*MAIN SUGGESTION FROM HENRIK*) ?????? Consider replacing the proprietary Xymon protocol with a REST API instead - then you could use standard http modules to talk to Xymon. Look at what each tool does, and reimplement it in a more modern way. ?????? Fix all string management warnings reported by gcc.
*1. Please, let us know if all your info is in these lists *or *if you have other ideas *and *what do you think of all this now that you have an summary ?*
Thank you for this write-up! I think this aptly summarizes where things are.
I suspect with the number of sysadmins on the list, we should be able to solve any questions of domains, hosting, and email fairly quickly. I use my own builders for the Terabithia RPMs, but as development picks back up it will be helpful to set some formal targets for the main release to ensure that we maintain compatibility with the various systems we're intending to. (GCC warnings in particular may cause more strife.)
The rest broadly does seem like it comes down to technical vs non-technical issues. While *I'm* personally OK with the man2html look, I'm pretty sure that's not what The Kids like today :) I had looked at things like ReadTheDocs and other .io projects, which could provide a useful re-structuring of the existing introductory material, and then form the basis for renewed walkthroughs, FAQs, and the like in a more approachable manner. (While still keeping the comprehensive man pages available.)
While I'm a competent enough technical writer, as these emails make clear I'd sorely need an editor :) But if someone with an eye for documentation and more aligned with modern tech sensibilities could take the lead on site design and structure I think that would be something very helpful for the project.
I would also second that unifying the wiki materials is probably a good thing, including making sure links to xymonton and any other BB resources are prominently available.
The technical directions are a big chunk to chew, but I think the documentation and front-door experience is probably more directly relevant to revitalizing interest (barring the SSL issues brought up elsewhere).
Regards, -jc
On 8/17/23 1:27 PM, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
On Tue, August 15, 2023 09:34, Bruno Manzoni wrote:
Hi Xymon Lovers,
Glad to see everyone still loves Xymon and ready to give more! *I've summarized this discussion *"Is this thing on"
*To move forward:** **Non-technical needs:*
*? Mailing list migration*, not possible to sign up for the Xymon user group anymore (*URGENT PROBLEM*) ??? Share community developed plugins/monitors (it seems some people may have a lot to share) ??? Several resources available if needed (developer, server web, demo platform, infra, maybe also money) ??? More than one enthusiastic developer (probably not only devs...) ??? Need a caretaker: updates to fix bugs, adapt to new OS versions, Terabithia RPM ??? Henrik won't be able to contribute much (but a little might also be good!) ??? A clearer organization ??? Wikibook information udpate
*Technical needs* *New features that we would like to have or that were planned*
??? Reports, communication encrypted, or at least authenticated, Direct SSL support and/or message signing (*MOST REQUESTED*) ??? Introductory document for developers ??? IPv6 (some of which is working in the 4.4 alpha branch) ??? Abstraction of remaining formatting to simple CSS to allow for skinning and dashboarding ??? JSON endpoint version of xymondx{log|board} ??? REST-based C shim .cgi, both of which could help folks integrating Xymon with other monitoring systems out there ??? Forklifting of the many performance enhancements and tweaks from the Terabithia RPMs into the source tarball. ??? Move the source to Github in the hopes of creating an easier onramp for patch submissions via PRs, bug reports ??? Rocky package. ??? Missing in the base, arp, netstat, ifconfig and route are supposed to be replaced by "ip" and "ss" commands. ??? Moving away from C as the primary language. Python would probably have a lot more potential developers (*MAIN SUGGESTION FROM HENRIK*) ??? Consider replacing the proprietary Xymon protocol with a REST API instead - then you could use standard http modules to talk to Xymon. Look at what each tool does, and reimplement it in a more modern way. ??? Fix all string management warnings reported by gcc.
*1. Please, let us know if all your info is in these lists *or *if you have other ideas *and *what do you think of all this now that you have an summary ?* Thank you for this write-up! I think this aptly summarizes where things are.
I suspect with the number of sysadmins on the list, we should be able to solve any questions of domains, hosting, and email fairly quickly. I use my own builders for the Terabithia RPMs, but as development picks back up it will be helpful to set some formal targets for the main release to ensure that we maintain compatibility with the various systems we're intending to. (GCC warnings in particular may cause more strife.)
The rest broadly does seem like it comes down to technical vs non-technical issues. While *I'm* personally OK with the man2html look, I'm pretty sure that's not what The Kids like today :) I had looked at things like ReadTheDocs and other .io projects, which could provide a useful re-structuring of the existing introductory material, and then form the basis for renewed walkthroughs, FAQs, and the like in a more approachable manner. (While still keeping the comprehensive man pages available.)
While I'm a competent enough technical writer, as these emails make clear I'd sorely need an editor :) But if someone with an eye for documentation and more aligned with modern tech sensibilities could take the lead on site design and structure I think that would be something very helpful for the project.
I would also second that unifying the wiki materials is probably a good thing, including making sure links to xymonton and any other BB resources are prominently available.
The technical directions are a big chunk to chew, but I think the documentation and front-door experience is probably more directly relevant to revitalizing interest (barring the SSL issues brought up elsewhere).
Regards, -jc
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In the beginning there was port 1984 and shell scripts... And it was good;
So good that Dell devoured it whole without a burp and it was never seen again.
C was an improvement, but also introduced all sorts of odd little bugs that shell never was vulnerable to (some called them hobbits until people lacking a sense of humor told them to knock it off) and those had to be solved and gave us some interesting new capabilities at the same time like SNMP monitoring built in (IF you could gather all the bits and pieces and get it to work;? I did it once and the next upgrade broke it and I had no to time to sort it out again).
Now someone is suggesting python or rust.? Which python?? Which rust?? As someone who fights with questions like this for both a living and a hobby, I shudder and pale at the suggestion and begin considering what other tools I should start thinking about. Starting adding funky dependencies and admins start walking away.
The iproute2 family of tools (the "ip" and "ss" commands) have introduced a similar set of issues.? These aren't terrible, but they ARE irritating.
Adding secure communications (ssl/tls and certificates/signing) is possibly the simplest enhancement to make... And most likely to break everything for someone if done wrong in either the code or config.
Replacing the "the proprietary Xymon protocol with a REST API"?
?Is it really a proprietary protocol?
Let's look at that;? I want a new test -- I knock together something that collects/senses what I need to know about and tells $XYMONHOME/bin/xymon to transmit it.
I don't need to know ANYTHING about how to get it to the display and I don't care.? I do have to know how to tell the display what to do when the data get's there and how to chart it.? I've spent a number of hours digging through rrdtool docs, but those are pretty clear.
How much of the existing ecosystem might a REST API destroy? Is that destruction worth it?? What is the actual gain?
The friendliest and most useful enhancement, I believe, is documentation.
As an example, I just installed snap package management on a VM that sets up some mounts that are 100 percent all the time. Solution: Ignore them... Yeah, right!? I cannot make them be silent. When I have a BIT more time, I know I'll solve the issue, but for now, I've simply suppressed them.? There a LOT of this type of issue and lack of documentation has led to a lot more re-invention of the wheel.
SSL/TLS used to be handled by freely available stunnel... But the method was never documented well (it was obvious!? Was it?) and is now lost in the mists of time.
I already mentioned the SNMP monitor configuration.? Trust me, devmon sucks, but it's what is consistently/readily workable... As long as I restart it regularly otherwise it swells like a poisoned animal.
Documentation is the least "sexy" thing to do, so I suspect the kewl sexy things will happen... Python/rust/REST, and the documentation will be ignored
Just my old neck beard view of this, worth every penny that you paid for it.
participants (17)
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Berry.vanSleeuwen＠atos.net
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bferrell＠baywinds.org
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bruno.manzoni＠ubi-network.ch
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cleaver＠terabithia.org
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damien＠makelofine.org
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henrik＠hswn.dk
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jglouisjr＠gmail.com
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Neil.Simmonds＠studio.co.uk
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norkrie＠gmail.com
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novosirj＠rutgers.edu
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ralphmitchell＠gmail.com
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rodbass63＠gmail.com
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Scot.Kreienkamp＠la-z-boy.com
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solitaryr＠gmail.com
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support＠ionetworkadmin.com
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tom＠4schmidts.com
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zforray＠vcu.edu