I am running hobbit 4.1.2p1. I want to upgrade to the latest stable version.
I found versions of hobbit on www.hswn.dk and sourceforge.
Where do I get the latest stable version of hobbit? Are there patches that have to be added to this version or is there a version with the patches already? What is the latest version?
I have been using bb then hobbit for many years and have found it excellent. There is another department that is looking into nagios monitoring software. They are willing to monitor other departments hosts if we want. Looking at their web page I see a lot of eye candy reports and they look cluttered but that is just looking at the screen shots. I personally like hobbit's simple interface.
Has anyone else looked at nagios and why did you prefer hobbit over nagios?
Just wondering.
Robert
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On Feb 4, 2008 11:50 AM, McGraw, Robert P <rmcgraw at purdue.edu> wrote:
I am running hobbit 4.1.2p1. I want to upgrade to the latest stable version.
I found versions of hobbit on www.hswn.dk and sourceforge.
Where do I get the latest stable version of hobbit? Are there patches that have to be added to this version or is there a version with the patches already? What is the latest version?
The latest stable version is 4.2.0, available here:
See also the patches directory there and fetch the all-in-one patch.
Ralph Mitchell
Maybe another pertinent question might be is there new stable version that will be coming out any time soon. I would rather not install 4.2.0 and then find that next week 4.3.0 will be out.
Thanks for your comments.
Robert
From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 1:05 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] The latest version of hobbit.
On Feb 4, 2008 11:50 AM, McGraw, Robert P <rmcgraw at purdue.edu> wrote:
I am running hobbit 4.1.2p1. I want to upgrade to the latest stable version.
I found versions of hobbit on www.hswn.dk and sourceforge.
Where do I get the latest stable version of hobbit? Are there patches that have to be added to this version or is there a version with the patches already? What is the latest version?
The latest stable version is 4.2.0, available here:
See also the patches directory there and fetch the all-in-one patch.
Ralph Mitchell
On Feb 4, 2008 7:52 PM, McGraw, Robert P <rmcgraw at purdue.edu> wrote:
Maybe another pertinent question might be is there new stable version that will be coming out any time soon. I would rather not install 4.2.0 and then find that next week 4.3.0 will be out.
This comes up regularly on this (and many other) list(s). I suggest you have a quick search of the archive for the multiple threads from the last few months.
Hint, with a lot of/most OSS the new stable version comes out when it's ready, not on a schedule :)
-- Please keep list traffic on the list.
Rob MacGregor Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become a monster. Friedrich Nietzsche
Hi !
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, McGraw, Robert P wrote:
I am running hobbit 4.1.2p1. I want to upgrade to the latest stable version.
I found versions of hobbit on www.hswn.dk and sourceforge.
Where do I get the latest stable version of hobbit?
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbitsw/hobbit-4.2.0/
Are there patches that have to be added to this version or is there a version with the patches already?
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbitsw/patches/
What is the latest version?
Snapshot is not the last version, but the last snapshot ..
I have been using bb then hobbit for many years and have found it excellent. There is another department that is looking into nagios monitoring software. They are willing to monitor other departments hosts if we want. Looking at their web page I see a lot of eye candy reports and they look cluttered but that is just looking at the screen shots. I personally like hobbit's simple interface.
Has anyone else looked at nagios and why did you prefer hobbit over nagios?
e.g
- a nice report of Tracy Di Marco White why using Hobbit
http://gendalia.public.iastate.edu/Hobbit.txt
- nice thread
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2006/05/msg00359.html
- wiki
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/User_Guide#Why_us...
Just wondering.
Not really .. ?
cheers, Martin
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:50:32PM -0500, McGraw, Robert P wrote:
I am running hobbit 4.1.2p1. I want to upgrade to the latest stable version.
I found versions of hobbit on www.hswn.dk and sourceforge.
Sourceforge is the official repository for stable versions. www.hswn.dk is my personal website - it has the latest stable release, some post-release patches, and the current development snapshot.
Where do I get the latest stable version of hobbit? Are there patches that have to be added to this version or is there a version with the patches already? What is the latest version?
Recommended patches - the "all-in-one" patch - are available from http://www.hswn.dk/hobbitsw/patches/
Regards, Henrik
Hi,
On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 12:50:32PM -0500, McGraw, Robert P wrote:
Has anyone else looked at nagios and why did you prefer hobbit over nagios?
I've used Nagios as well as Big Brother (BB) on the job. Wasn't very happy with either. Both have about the same amount of advantages and disadvantages. Hobbit has less disadvantages than BB and there are only a few Nagios features I would like to have which neither BB nor Hobbit have, so I stick with Hobbit and we're currently replacing our BB on the job with hobbit. For our Linux User Group I will replace a Nagios with Hobbit soon.
So here's my short comparision chart:
What I like with Nagios which is neither in BB nor Hobbit
Service Dependencies (if MySQL is down, the Website is broken, too, so report MySQL as the source of the problem)
Host Dependencies (if the router is down, it's clear that all hosts behind must be down, too).
Event Hooks (good for connecting IRC Bots :-)
What I like with Hobbit which isn't in Nagios
Pushing the reports by default. This enables two further advantages:
Having a "no reports recently" state.
Possibility to mark hosts as "dialup", so you can monitor hosts with changing IPs or not permanently running hosts (desktops, workstations). This is the killer feature for me, on the job as well as at home.
2-dimensional (host x service) tables, which give IMHO a better overview (YMMV)
More flexible in generating own pages for groups of machines.
Configuration easier to overview, needs less lines of code per host. (YMMV)
(If anyone knows that features I mentioned as not available are though available, please correct me. :-)
P.S.: I also had a short look at Pandora FMS (http://pandora.sf.net/), but it seemed to be overkill for my purposes.
Kind regards, Axel Beckert-- Axel Beckert <beckert at phys.ethz.ch> support: +41 44 633 2668 IT Support Group, HPR E 86.1 voice: +41 44 633 4189 Departement Physik, ETH Zurich fax: +41 44 633 1239 CH-8093 Zurich, Switzerland http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/
Service dependencies -- see 'depends' in Hobbit bb-host man page.
Host dependencies -- see 'route' in Hobbit bb-host man page.
-----Original Message----- From: Axel Beckert [mailto:beckert at phys.ethz.ch] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:26 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit vs Nagios (was: The latest version of hobbit.)
<snip>
What I like with Nagios which is neither in BB nor Hobbit
Service Dependencies (if MySQL is down, the Website is broken, too, so report MySQL as the source of the problem)
Host Dependencies (if the router is down, it's clear that all hosts behind must be down, too).
Event Hooks (good for connecting IRC Bots :-)
<snip>
(If anyone knows that features I mentioned as not available are though available, please correct me. :-)
P.S.: I also had a short look at Pandora FMS (http://pandora.sf.net/), but it seemed to be overkill for my purposes.
Kind regards, Axel Beckert-- Axel Beckert <beckert at phys.ethz.ch> support: +41 44 633 2668 IT Support Group, HPR E 86.1 voice: +41 44 633 4189 Departement Physik, ETH Zurich fax: +41 44 633 1239 CH-8093 Zurich, Switzerland http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 08:49:06AM -0600, Dugan, Darin D [EIT] wrote:
Service dependencies -- see 'depends' in Hobbit bb-host man page.
Host dependencies -- see 'route' in Hobbit bb-host man page.
Hey, thanks. Seems if I still don't know all improvements of Hobbit over BB. :-)
Kind regards, Axel Beckert-- Axel Beckert <beckert at phys.ethz.ch> support: +41 44 633 2668 IT Support Group, HPR E 86.1 voice: +41 44 633 4189 Departement Physik, ETH Zurich fax: +41 44 633 1239 CH-8093 Zurich, Switzerland http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/
And I'm sure you can use external paging scripts to do the hooks, it's a workaround, but it'll work, assuming you can get the IRC bot to work on a script/text file.
On Feb 5, 2008 9:58 AM, Axel Beckert <beckert at phys.ethz.ch> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 08:49:06AM -0600, Dugan, Darin D [EIT] wrote:
Service dependencies -- see 'depends' in Hobbit bb-host man page.
Host dependencies -- see 'route' in Hobbit bb-host man page.
Hey, thanks. Seems if I still don't know all improvements of Hobbit over BB. :-)
Kind regards, Axel Beckert-- Axel Beckert <beckert at phys.ethz.ch> support: +41 44 633 2668 IT Support Group, HPR E 86.1 voice: +41 44 633 4189 Departement Physik, ETH Zurich fax: +41 44 633 1239 CH-8093 Zurich, Switzerland http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/
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I wrote an AIM "pager" for Big Brother that would probably work for Hobbit as well. It's over on deadcat.
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-----Original Message----- From: Patrick Nixon [mailto:pnixon at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:15 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit vs Nagios (was: The latest version of hobbit.)
And I'm sure you can use external paging scripts to do the hooks, it's a workaround, but it'll work, assuming you can get the IRC bot to work on a script/text file.
On Feb 5, 2008 9:58 AM, Axel Beckert <beckert at phys.ethz.ch> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 08:49:06AM -0600, Dugan, Darin D [EIT] wrote:
Service dependencies -- see 'depends' in Hobbit bb-host man page.
Host dependencies -- see 'route' in Hobbit bb-host man page.
Hey, thanks. Seems if I still don't know all improvements of Hobbit over BB. :-)
Kind regards, Axel Beckert-- Axel Beckert <beckert at phys.ethz.ch> support: +41 44 633 2668 IT Support Group, HPR E 86.1 voice: +41 44 633 4189 Departement Physik, ETH Zurich fax: +41 44 633 1239 CH-8093 Zurich, Switzerland http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/
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Axel Beckert wrote:
(If anyone knows that features I mentioned as not available are though available, please correct me. :-)
For the record, I prefer Hobbit. In my experience, the #1 thing that Nagios folks rub in my face is "flap detection". I think Henrik is working on adding this to Hobbit :)
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 11:04:57AM -0700, Charles Jones wrote:
Axel Beckert wrote:
(If anyone knows that features I mentioned as not available are though available, please correct me. :-)
For the record, I prefer Hobbit. In my experience, the #1 thing that Nagios folks rub in my face is "flap detection". I think Henrik is working on adding this to Hobbit :)
It's in the snapshots. Not as elaborate as the Nagios stuff, but I think it is quite useful as-is.
Regards, Henrik
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