-----Original Message----- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:rsmrcina at wi.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:09 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

Frank,

I've done a number of in-place upgrades. Shut down Hobbit right before you do the make install and bring it back up when it's done.

I would strongly suggest getting the latest all-in-one patch, though.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit 4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping monitoring disruption to a minimum. Currently hobbit is installed at /home/hobbit.

Any thoughts, experiences, horror stories, etc.

Thanks,

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

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I'm installing on a CentOs 4.4 system (Red Hat based). I'll be using the .rpm. I don't know where the RPM wants to install the product. How can I tell?

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-----Original Message----- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:rsmrcina at wi.rr.com]

Frank,

Try rpm -qpl <rpm filename>

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

-----Original Message----- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:rsmrcina at wi.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 11:09 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

Frank,

I've done a number of in-place upgrades. Shut down Hobbit right before you do the make install and bring it back up when it's done.

I would strongly suggest getting the latest all-in-one patch, though.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

...

I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit 4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping monitoring disruption to a minimum. Currently hobbit is installed at /home/hobbit.

Any thoughts, experiences, horror stories, etc.

Thanks,

Frank M. Ramaekers Jr.

Rich Smrcina

Well, from the source, I get:

$ rpm -qpl hobbit-4.2.0-1.src.rpm hobbit-4.2.0.tar.gz hobbit-client.default hobbit-client.init hobbit-init.d hobbit.logrotate hobbit.spec

(Notice no directories)

The install package: $ rpm -qpl FC5-hobbit-4.2.0-1.i386.rpm | more /etc/hobbit /etc/hobbit/bb-hosts /etc/hobbit/bb-services /etc/hobbit/bbcombotest.cfg /etc/hobbit/client-local.cfg /etc/hobbit/columndoc.csv /etc/hobbit/hobbit-alerts.cfg /etc/hobbit/hobbit-clients.cfg /etc/hobbit/hobbit-nkview.cfg /etc/hobbit/hobbit-nkview.cfg.bak : :

(Notice directory names included)

But when I tried to install the source, I got (because of permissions): $ rpm -i ../hobbit-4.2.0-1.src.rpm error: cannot write to %sourcedir /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES

So, it appears that there is some directory information that the -qpl switch doesn't display

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Oh, I understand that...I just didn't want it to install it there (/usr/src/redhat/SOURCES). (Good thing I wasn't root.)

I'm just going with the tarball where I have more control over the installation process.

Thanks all!

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-----Original Message----- From: Rich Smrcina [mailto:rsmrcina at wi.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:31 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

You should be root or use sudo when installing RPMs.

Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

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But when I tried to install the source, I got (because of permissions): $ rpm -i ../hobbit-4.2.0-1.src.rpm error: cannot write to %sourcedir /usr/src/redhat/SOURCES

So, it appears that there is some directory information that the -qpl switch doesn't display

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On Fri, 8 Jun 2007, Martin Flemming wrote:

Sorry, does anybody know why or how long

http://www.trantor.org/theshire/doku.php/about

is / should be down .. ?

I can reach it from here.

Regards,

Tom

-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:40 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Upgrading Hobbit

On Thu, Jun 07, 2007 at 10:55:02AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

I attempting to determine the best method to upgrade my hobbit 4.2-alpha-20060527 to the 4.2 version w/o losing history and keeping monitoring disruption to a minimum. Currently hobbit is installed at /home/hobbit.

Grab the hobbit-4.2.0.tar.gz file, unpack it and apply the allinone patch. Configure it just like you did for the current install. Run "make" to build it, stop your current Hobbit, run "make install" and start Hobbit.

If you do want to use the RPM version of Hobbit as you wrote elsewhere, the directories will probably be different from what you have now. Moving the old files in data/{hist,histlogs,rrd} should be OK, and you can also copy the bb-hosts, hobbit-alerts.cfg, hobbit-clients.cfg files over from the old server/etc directory. If you made any changes to hobbitserver.cfg, however, those will have to be hand-made in the new setup. And the Apache setup will probably also have to be tuned to the new directory layout.

Regards, Henrik

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I think I'll go without using the RPMs...too much work.

Thanks for the heads up!

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On Fri, Jun 08, 2007 at 08:43:09AM -0500, Frank M. Ramaekers wrote:

This worked great (first suggestion), except now I'm getting a WHITE status for the PROCS on the hobbit server itself....gotta hunt down which configuration file got modified...

"white" (or "clear") just means that you haven't configured any process- checks. I cannot recall, but it's possible this changed between the alpha version you ran and the release version.

Regards, Henrik