New Feature Request: Getting file from client/etc hobbit-clients directory...
A centralized monitor system is really a nice thing to have but it could be also a nice feature to be able to get files from clients just like the client could get files in the etc directory of hobbit server...
Writing the database and weblogic clients I've put in options to include other configuration files in the main config file for those clients. This was a feature needed by my database administrator and sap administrator group (will also be used by my weblogic administrators) so that each of them can edit their warning/alert levels without having to go through a big config file or affecting others database warning/alert level. For now i'm getting the file manually but it could be nice if the server could get files from the clients (limited for example to the client/etc directory for security reason) just like the client do with the server...
Francesco
Francesco Duranti a écrit :
A centralized monitor system is really a nice thing to have but it could be also a nice feature to be able to get files from clients just like the client could get files in the etc directory of hobbit server...
The "download" feature outlined in "man 1 bb" should do that.
NAME bb - Hobbit client communication program [...] download FILENAME Download a file from the Hobbit servers' download directory.
Regards,
-- Charles Goyard - cgoyard at cvf.fr - (+33) 1 45 38 01 31
Charles Goyard a écrit :
Francesco Duranti a écrit :
A centralized monitor system is really a nice thing to have but it could be also a nice feature to be able to get files from clients just like the client could get files in the etc directory of hobbit server...
The "download" feature outlined in "man 1 bb" should do that.
Forget about that, I need more coffee %-).
-- Charles Goyard - cgoyard at cvf.fr - (+33) 1 45 38 01 31
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 08:27:27PM +0200, Francesco Duranti wrote:
A centralized monitor system is really a nice thing to have but it could be also a nice feature to be able to get files from clients just like the client could get files in the etc directory of hobbit server...
[snip section about using this for server admins to manage the Hobbit config]
I don't like that, for several reasons.
Stability. If one of your users makes a mistake in the configuration file that is uploaded, it could affect all of your monitoring. Hobbit client- and alert-configuration uses pattern-matching a lot, so allowing anyone to modify the configuration requires a lot of care; they can easily affect the configuration of other hosts.
Security. Same reasons as 1), except that you also have to consider the possibility of someone deliberately sabotaging your configuration instead of just making an accidental mistake. If I want to do something bad to your hosts, being able to disable your monitoring system is really nice. An anonymous upload function could be abused for this purpose.
There are lots of other ways of accomplishing this. You can use the local client-configuration option (keep all of the client configuration files on the client), or there's ftp/rsync/scp/nfs etc. to allow exchanging of files between two systems. And they have much better access controls than Hobbit does. Unless there's a good reason for it, I try not to re-invent things.
If you really want this, there is nothing that stops you from adding a custom section to the client message - just put it at the bottom of the Hobbit client script - and then over on the server grab the client message and extract the configuration file from that.
Regards, Henrik
I like to suggest in future version of hobbit to replace Tigra with other java script menu system like YUI. This is my personal opinion, YUI has more to offer in term of menu capabilities while Tigra is free to offer basic menu fuctions.
I like to hear Henrik's and others comment on this subject.
References : http://www.softcomplex.com/products/tigra_menu/ http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/
T.J. Yang
I like to suggest in future version of hobbit to replace Tigra with other java script menu system like YUI. This is my personal opinion, YUI has more to offer in term of menu capabilities while Tigra is free only on basic menu fuctions.
I like to hear Henrik's and others comment on this subject.
References : http://www.softcomplex.com/products/tigra_menu/ http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/
T.J. Yang
On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 06:54:09AM -0500, T.J. Yang wrote:
I like to suggest in future version of hobbit to replace Tigra with other java script menu system like YUI. This is my personal opinion, YUI has more to offer in term of menu capabilities while Tigra is free only on basic menu fuctions.
I like to hear Henrik's and others comment on this subject.
References : http://www.softcomplex.com/products/tigra_menu/ http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/
I'm fairly indifferent to which system is used. The only requirements I have are that
a) they must be licensed with an Open Source compatible license (Tigra is public domain, YUI is BSD) b) they are easy to integrate into the Hobbit web/ templates c) they are easy to distribute and install.
Since I don't have any real need to switch, I don't really care much about looking into what it would take to swicth. If someone else is willing to work on it, that would be fine.
So to sum up, since the web/ template-files really are considered configuration files that you may change - feel free to modify them to suit whatever needs you have. If you think the modifications are generally useful, you might want to contribute them to the project. I think the new Shire repository would be an excellent place to begin placing such modified template-files.
Regards, Henrik
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cgoyard＠cvf.fr
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fduranti＠q8.it
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henrik＠hswn.dk
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tj_yang＠hotmail.com