differents betwen 'no data' and 'no report'
Hello,
Could you explain to me the differents betwen 'no data' and 'no report' ?
Best regards.
NMA
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 03:14:04PM +0200, Marraud, Nicolas wrote:
Could you explain to me the differents betwen 'no data' and 'no report'
"No report" (purple) means that Hobbit is no longer getting updates for this status. E.g. if you have a system with the Hobbit client installed and the client is stopped, then after a while the client status messages (cpu, disk, memory ...) will go purple. This usually indicates some sort of error in the monitoring system.
"No data" (clear or white) means that this status has no meaningful data to report, but it IS being updated. There are two places where this is used:
For client data which do not have any rules defined, e.g. the "procs" column is reported as "no data" if there are no process checks, but Hobbit does get a "ps" listing.
For network tests that depend on each other, e.g. an "ssh" check will go "clear" if the "conn" (ping) test fails - because it doesn't make much sense reporting an "ssh" failure when it's really the whole box that is down.
Regards, Henrik
Hi -
It it "legal" then for custom scripts to send in a "clear" status? I used to do this all the time back when I used BB, but I stopped when using Hobbit. I had an issue with graphs not working when clear status was being sent and someone told me that I should not send clear. Now I understand why the graphs didn't work, but there may be other (non-graph) situations where I'd like to send a "FYI only" message. i.e., "Here's some data, but I'm not making any judgements on it". Sounds like exactly what clear is supposed to communicate, if it's allowed for custom scripts to use this color.
Thanks!
-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 8:24 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] differents betwen 'no data' and 'no report'
On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 03:14:04PM +0200, Marraud, Nicolas wrote:
Could you explain to me the differents betwen 'no data' and 'no report'
"No report" (purple) means that Hobbit is no longer getting updates for this status. E.g. if you have a system with the Hobbit client installed and the client is stopped, then after a while the client status messages (cpu, disk, memory ...) will go purple. This usually indicates some sort of error in the monitoring system.
"No data" (clear or white) means that this status has no meaningful data to report, but it IS being updated. There are two places where this is used:
For client data which do not have any rules defined, e.g. the "procs"
column is reported as "no data" if there are no process checks, but Hobbit does get a "ps" listing.
For network tests that depend on each other, e.g. an "ssh" check will go "clear" if the "conn" (ping) test fails - because it doesn't make much sense reporting an "ssh" failure when it's really the whole box that is down.
Regards, Henrik
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 09:25:43AM -0600, Haertig, David F (Dave) wrote:
It it "legal" then for custom scripts to send in a "clear" status?
Yes. The only "illegal" colors you can send to Hobbit are "purple" and "blue".
Regards, Henrik
Hello All,
We are using Fedora Core 3 for an in-house application suite. I've loaded on Hobbit with no problems and everything is working,
but I compiled everything from source.
I also had to compile and install: Apache2, rrdtool, tcl, pcre, and libart
prior to compiling Hobbit.
These are development boxes which use Kickstart to install new
versions of the in-house applications.
I would like to create a single rpm's of Hobbit, Apache2, rrdtool, tcl, pcre, and libart so that I can easily install Hobbit
during the Kickstart process.
I've never created an rpm of a software application. Can someone give
me some good pointers. I've dug through some of the docs,
but I'm still a bit rough on the process. I understand that some of the
applications have a file that I might be able to use in the process.
Thanks..James
Building rpms from tarballs are a major pain... just grab the src.rpm, build it on a system that is like all your target systems, and rebuild it with "rpmbuild --rebuild foo.src.rpm" . You'll only need to have rddtools, pcre, devel rpms installed on the system where you rebuild the rpm.
for example, I've rebuilt hobbit-4.2.0-1.src.rpm on a rh9 server. it kicked out 3 rpms: server, client, tools.
So far I've installed the client rpm onto dozens of rh9, fc3,fc4,fc6,el3,el4 boxes without having to install any other rpms.
hope that helps.
Daniel Bourque Systems/Network Administrator Weather Data Inc
Office (316) 266-8013 Office (316) 265-9127 ext. 3013 Mobile (316) 640-1024
James Wade wrote:
Hello All,
We are using Fedora Core 3 for an in-house application suite. I've loaded on Hobbit with no problems and everything is working,
but I compiled everything from source.
I also had to compile and install: Apache2, rrdtool, tcl, pcre, and libart
prior to compiling Hobbit.
These are development boxes which use Kickstart to install new
versions of the in-house applications.
I would like to create a single rpm's of Hobbit, Apache2, rrdtool, tcl, pcre, and libart so that I can easily install Hobbit
during the Kickstart process.
I've never created an rpm of a software application. Can someone give
me some good pointers. I've dug through some of the docs,
but I'm still a bit rough on the process. I understand that some of the
applications have a file that I might be able to use in the process.
Thanks....James
James Wade wrote:
Hello All,
We are using Fedora Core 3 for an in-house application suite. I've loaded on Hobbit with no problems and everything is working, but I compiled everything from source.
I also had to compile and install: Apache2, rrdtool, tcl, pcre, and libart prior to compiling Hobbit.
Why not use the software that comes with Fedora 3? Apache2, tcl, pcre, and libart are in Core and rrdtool is in Extras: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/extras/3/ Hobbit can be found here: http://rpm.razorsedge.org/fedora-3/RE/
-- -mike
Hello,
Thank you for your answers.
I have a probleme with the 'no data'. In fact, I have a big brother bbdisplay server and a hobbit bbdisplay server. This week-end, a client was in purple in the BB view and in white (no data) in the Hobbit view !!!
When I look the white page : the server say that it as no information since the day before...so normally he must be in purple.
I would like to disable the option white : is-it possible to have the purple state in place of white state ?
NMA
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Marraud, Nicolas a écrit :
Hello,
Thank you for your answers.
I have a probleme with the ‘no data’. In fact, I have a big brother bbdisplay server and a hobbit bbdisplay server. This week-end, a client was in purple in the BB view and in white (no data) in the Hobbit view !!!
When I look the white page : the server say that it as no information since the day before…so normally he must be in purple.
I would like to disable the option white : is-it possible to have the purple state in place of white state ?
hello,
did the client already send some non white informations to the hobbit server before the status became white ? you can customize what the bb client sends, and ehven recompile your own client to systematically send a purple instead of a white. but it's not recommended as the purple is generated by the server.
NMA
On Monday 25 June 2007, pkc_mls wrote:
Marraud, Nicolas a écrit :
Hello,
Thank you for your answers.
I have a probleme with the ‘no data’. In fact, I have a big brother bbdisplay server and a hobbit bbdisplay server. This week-end, a client was in purple in the BB view and in white (no data) in the Hobbit view !!!
When I look the white page : the server say that it as no information since the day before…so normally he must be in purple.
I would like to disable the option white : is-it possible to have the purple state in place of white state ?
hello,
did the client already send some non white informations to the hobbit server before the status became white ? you can customize what the bb client sends, and ehven recompile your own client to systematically send a purple instead of a white. but it's not recommended as the purple is generated by the server. You can not send purple messages from the client. Only red/yellow/green.
Stef
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