Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu? I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason. It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work. Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about. Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot. MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's. Should I just go back to that?
Thank you. *Kris Springer*
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On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl> wrote:
Hello,
That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the network devices and servers that I'm monitoring. I'm going to get 'devmon' going and see if that will work for us.
When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.
Kind regards, Wim Nelis.
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Am 06.12.2013 08:58, schrieb Kris Springer:
MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's. Should I just go back to that?
why not integrate mrtg graphs in xymon ?
http://xymon.sourceforge.net/xymon/help/xymon-mrtg.html
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Hello,
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu? I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason. It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work. Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about. Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot. MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's. Should I just go back to that?
Included with Devmon is a rather large set of templates, one template for one type of device. Do you have them installed / available as well?
Regards, Wim Nelis.
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MRTG is easy to integrate with Xymon.... I had mine setup and running in less than five minutes since my distro had an MRTG RPM readily available. Not trying to say anything against Devmon but the MRTG integration is a no brainer. I would say go back to that if you think it will do what you want.
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Kris Springer Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 2:58 AM To: W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu? I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason. It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work. Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about. Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot. MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's. Should I just go back to that?
Thank you. Kris Springer
=======================
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl<mailto:Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl>> wrote: Hello, That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the network devices and servers that I'm monitoring. I'm going to get 'devmon' going and see if that will work for us.
When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.
Kind regards, Wim Nelis.
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Hello,
MRTG is easy to integrate with Xymon.... I had mine setup and running in less than five minutes since my distro had an MRTG RPM readily available. Not trying to say anything against Devmon but the MRTG integration is a no brainer. I would say go back to that if you think it will do what you want.
MRTG will monitor throughput only. One can tweak MRTG to measure two other things in stead of input and output, but the options are limited compared to Devmon. Thus if one wants to monitor only throughput, MRTG will do well. If one wants to monitor a number of other parameters as well, for instance temperature, memory utilisation or stack status, Devmon is a better option.
Regards, Wim Nelis.
*From:*Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Kris Springer *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 2:58 AM *To:* W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu? I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason. It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work. Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about. Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot. MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's. Should I just go back to that?
Thank you.
*Kris Springer*
/=======================/
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl <mailto:Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl>> wrote:
Hello,
That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the network devices and servers that I'm monitoring. I'm going to get 'devmon' going and see if that will work for us.When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.
Kind regards, Wim Nelis.
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Kris, I'm a 20-year admin and it took a lot of research into MIBs, MIB data, writing my own wrappers and the like to get mine working. It definitely required some work, and there are no simple documentation efforts out there for DEVMON.
If there is, I'm going to be pissed because I asked for it on this very list!
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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM, W.J.M. Nelis <Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl> wrote:
Hello,
MRTG is easy to integrate with Xymon…. I had mine setup and running in less than five minutes since my distro had an MRTG RPM readily available. Not trying to say anything against Devmon but the MRTG integration is a no brainer. I would say go back to that if you think it will do what you want.
MRTG will monitor throughput only. One can tweak MRTG to measure two other things in stead of input and output, but the options are limited compared to Devmon. Thus if one wants to monitor only throughput, MRTG will do well. If one wants to monitor a number of other parameters as well, for instance temperature, memory utilisation or stack status, Devmon is a better option.
Regards, Wim Nelis.
*From:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com <xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] *On Behalf Of *Kris Springer *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 2:58 AM *To:* W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList *Subject:* Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu? I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason. It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work. Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about. Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot. MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's. Should I just go back to that?
Thank you.
*Kris Springer*
*=======================*
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl> wrote:
Hello,
That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the network devices and servers that I'm monitoring. I'm going to get 'devmon' going and see if that will work for us.
When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.
Kind regards, Wim Nelis.
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MRTG has the ability to monitor much more than just throughput. MRTG will collect and graph any number of variables (up to 4 I believe, I've never tried more than two) that can be collected by SNMP or scripts. I have used it to monitor temperature, CPU load, length in minutes of daylight during the day, and several other things as well as throughput over the years I've used it. I've also used RRDTool directly to monitor and maintain graphs of various things when MRTG didn't allow enough variables in a single graph or if I wanted more control over the process.
The bottom line is both MRTG and Devmon will work, as well as doing something directly with RRDTool like I have if Kris cares to do that. I advocate for MRTG simply because I think setup/integration is easier with MRTG and Xymon.
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of W.J.M. Nelis Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 9:11 AM To: Xymon MailingList Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring
Hello, MRTG is easy to integrate with Xymon.... I had mine setup and running in less than five minutes since my distro had an MRTG RPM readily available. Not trying to say anything against Devmon but the MRTG integration is a no brainer. I would say go back to that if you think it will do what you want.
MRTG will monitor throughput only. One can tweak MRTG to measure two other things in stead of input and output, but the options are limited compared to Devmon. Thus if one wants to monitor only throughput, MRTG will do well. If one wants to monitor a number of other parameters as well, for instance temperature, memory utilisation or stack status, Devmon is a better option.
Regards, Wim Nelis.
From: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] On Behalf Of Kris Springer Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 2:58 AM To: W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu? I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason. It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work. Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about. Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot. MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's. Should I just go back to that?
Thank you. Kris Springer
=======================
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM, W.J.M. Nelis <Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl<mailto:Wim.Nelis at nlr.nl>> wrote: Hello, That's great for the monitoring server, but I want it for all the network devices and servers that I'm monitoring. I'm going to get 'devmon' going and see if that will work for us.
When installing Devmon, consider installing the patches on the SourceForge Devmon page as well. Although the latest svn version dates of last September, a number of improvements (patches) submitted in the last two years are not yet included in the distribution version of Devmon.
Kind regards, Wim Nelis.
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On Dec 6, 2013, at 8:31, Scot Kreienkamp <SKreien at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
MRTG has the ability to monitor much more than just throughput. MRTG will collect and graph any number of variables (up to 4 I believe, I’ve never tried more than two) that can be collected by SNMP or scripts. I have used it to monitor temperature, CPU load, length in minutes of daylight during the day, and several other things as well as throughput over the years I’ve used it. I’ve also used RRDTool directly to monitor and maintain graphs of various things when MRTG didn’t allow enough variables in a single graph or if I wanted more control over the process.
The bottom line is both MRTG and Devmon will work, as well as doing something directly with RRDTool like I have if Kris cares to do that. I advocate for MRTG simply because I think setup/integration is easier with MRTG and Xymon.
This may be true, but the MRTG integration cannot assist Xymon with sending *alerts* for things like:
- high cpu
- high memory
- high temp
- interface errors, discards, or collisions
- interface under a high load
- interface down, but administratively up
- power supply failure
- fan failure
- wrong number of route prefixes
These are all things devmon can have xymon alert you for, but MRTG can only graph them.
Yes, but all I'm interested in is the traffic graphing. I've got other things running for other alerts.
With so much built-in funtionality in Xymon it surprises me that network device traffic graphing hasn't been just built-in yet.
Thank you.
*Kris Springer*
*=======================*
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Mark Felder <feld at feld.me> wrote:
On Dec 6, 2013, at 8:31, Scot Kreienkamp <SKreien at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
MRTG has the ability to monitor much more than just throughput. MRTG will collect and graph any number of variables (up to 4 I believe, I’ve never tried more than two) that can be collected by SNMP or scripts. I have used it to monitor temperature, CPU load, length in minutes of daylight during the day, and several other things as well as throughput over the years I’ve used it. I’ve also used RRDTool directly to monitor and maintain graphs of various things when MRTG didn’t allow enough variables in a single graph or if I wanted more control over the process.
The bottom line is both MRTG and Devmon will work, as well as doing something directly with RRDTool like I have if Kris cares to do that. I advocate for MRTG simply because I think setup/integration is easier with MRTG and Xymon.
This may be true, but the MRTG integration cannot assist Xymon with sending *alerts* for things like:
- high cpu
- high memory
- high temp
- interface errors, discards, or collisions
- interface under a high load
- interface down, but administratively up
- power supply failure
- fan failure
- wrong number of route prefixes
These are all things devmon can have xymon alert you for, but MRTG can only graph them.
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
That is an excellent point, there is no alerting with the MRTG integration, nor the possibility of it as far as I'm aware. As for the rest, those are definite advantages that MRTG will never have. In my case I have no need of alerting so MRTG fits my environment very well.
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Felder [mailto:feld at feld.me] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 1:20 PM To: Scot Kreienkamp Cc: W.J.M. Nelis; Xymon MailingList Subject: Re: [Xymon] network traffic monitoring
On Dec 6, 2013, at 8:31, Scot Kreienkamp <SKreien at la-z-boy.com> wrote:
MRTG has the ability to monitor much more than just throughput. MRTG will collect and graph any number of variables (up to 4 I believe, I’ve never tried more than two) that can be collected by SNMP or scripts. I have used it to monitor temperature, CPU load, length in minutes of daylight during the day, and several other things as well as throughput over the years I’ve used it. I’ve also used RRDTool directly to monitor and maintain graphs of various things when MRTG didn’t allow enough variables in a single graph or if I wanted more control over the process.
The bottom line is both MRTG and Devmon will work, as well as doing something directly with RRDTool like I have if Kris cares to do that. I advocate for MRTG simply because I think setup/integration is easier with MRTG and Xymon.
This may be true, but the MRTG integration cannot assist Xymon with sending *alerts* for things like:
- high cpu
- high memory
- high temp
- interface errors, discards, or collisions
- interface under a high load
- interface down, but administratively up
- power supply failure
- fan failure
- wrong number of route prefixes
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On 6 December 2013 18:58, Kris Springer <kspringer at innovateteam.com> wrote:
Does anyone have an easy installation guide for devmon on Ubuntu? I installed it and got the SNMP_Session perl stuff installed, but I'm not adept enough at linux or perl to get devmon to start for some reason. It's got a start script prebuilt for RedHat but that doesn't work for me and I don't know which paths to edit to make it work.
Here's an upstart config that Asif put together:
http://improvise.wordpress.com/2012/05/30/run-devmon-using-upstart-script/
Even if I do get it running it looks like I'll need some advanced configs with OID's that I have no idea about.
The devmon templates has the OIDs for the most common devices, and even some uncommon ones. It's not too difficult to craft up new ones, or extend existing ones.
Devmon was suggested by previous posts so I thought I'd give it a shot. MRTG seems way easier than this and doesn't require OID's. Should I just go back to that?
Having used both, I think that devmon is easier to get up and running, unless you have experience with only MRTG. If all you want is interface in/out traffic and error rates, MRTG will do what you want.
But you might be surprised by how much devmon gives you out of the box - once you have it up and running. I had a situation where a faulty power supply was detected immediately devmon started looking at it. Xymon has special code to handle devmon messages, so the Xymon/devmon integration is superior to MRTG in many cases.
I'm happy to help if you want to persevere with devmon.
J
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