Xymon social media presences
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media services:
https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor
New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account reference purposes at the moment:
https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor
In addition, there are a few resource groups out there, including:
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/2776122/ - XymonAdmins (unlisted) https://www.xymon.jp/ - Japanese Xymon User Group
- https://www.facebook.com/groups/126643144159684/
- Using hashtag #xymonjp on Twitter
One thing I've noticed is that Xymon looks to be a rather common name in some countries, which does make direct searching a little difficult. "Xymon Monitor" seems to be something a bit more trackable (with the full name "Xymon Systems and Network Monitor" as entitled on our SF page), but we might have to see in the future what references become useful more organically.
Nevertheless, hopefully this is a start. Feel free to like/comment/tag/subscribe/share/etc these in the future.
Regards, -jc
Hi JC,
- Thanks to have accepted to share the ownership of the POC repo: https://github.com/xymon-monitoring - Do not hesitate to use and abuse your "owner" rights
- Thanks for the friendly comments
- I have integrated the best I can the info of your email and also of your previous email one on the?"POC Problem-solving" repo: https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/problem-solving
- I reserve xymonmonitor at Github, you are also invited as a owner (following social media name and also because xymon alone is already take by someone?!?)
- I still have to go through previous emails to complete this summary of problems as much as I can.
Bruno
On 04.10.2023 05:57, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media services:
https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor
New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account reference purposes at the moment:
https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor
In addition, there are a few resource groups out there, including:
https://www.linkedin.com/groups/2776122/ - XymonAdmins (unlisted) https://www.xymon.jp/ - Japanese Xymon User Group -https://www.facebook.com/groups/126643144159684/
- Using hashtag #xymonjp on Twitter
One thing I've noticed is that Xymon looks to be a rather common name in some countries, which does make direct searching a little difficult. "Xymon Monitor" seems to be something a bit more trackable (with the full name "Xymon Systems and Network Monitor" as entitled on our SF page), but we might have to see in the future what references become useful more organically.
Nevertheless, hopefully this is a start. Feel free to like/comment/tag/subscribe/share/etc these in the future.
Regards, -jc
Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 08:57:57PM -0700, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media services:
https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor
New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account reference purposes at the moment:
https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor
Might be my bubble, but does anyone in IT still use these platforms, especially Twitter and Reddit?
In 2023, I'd kinda expected a Fediverse (e.g. Mastodon, Firefish, etc.) presence instead of a new account on the centralized and dying Twitter platform.
Good question is though which Fediverse instance might be a good one for Xymon. I would _not_ take the biggest generic ones (like mastodon.social or mstdn.social), but a medium sized one with a good reputation for reliability and a more or less fitting topic, floss.social or fosstodon.org maybe.
(There also exists a Mastodon instance named monitoring.cafe. It seems to be an instance for a monitoring community, but rather new and not yet open: https://monitoring.cafe/about ? I've asked how their plans are: https://chaos.social/@xtaran/111176160822935709)
Not sure about Reddit, but it has gotten quite a bad reputation after some disputes between the company behind it and the community. (Albeit it IMHO didn't get as bad as Twitter's reputation got after the Muskocalypse.)
Then again, I've _never_ used Facebook nor Instagram. (Not sure who's worse these days, Musk or Zuckerberg?) So it really might be just my bubble.
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Hi Axel, I send you a Github invite to be a member of the POC, as myself and JC (and everyone is invited) JC and I are currently owner with full access, you will be a member for now, but if you thing you need more let me know! *Could you please put your info into: https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/problem-solving/issues/9 (Social Media improvement)*
- *The way you like! but try to be as short as possible (less is more)*. The document (an issue) try to collect ideas/problems and solutions on a subject: so more ideas and solutions are better, "why some are good and other no so?" is a matter of discussion but to compare solution, the current admins need:
- To fix a goal
- To define prerequisites if any.
- Then to compare solutions
- And finally to decide/choose the best solution As so far, it seems to me that there is not any goal fixed, an evaluation cannot be wrong : it depends... so your evaluation is valuable like any other: so do not hesitate to put it! And of course, this can be adjusted if wrong or not applicable when the context is clearer: so just do not hesitate to write what you want! For your info you will find in this document(issue) the elements of JC that I just dropped into it. I just strip as much as I can without striping the main info , I try not to bother JC: he has already much think to do: so I try to do things for him, and I can do that also for others in some case, but the idea is to have something collaborative, better than a mailing list, especially for follow subject.
- I choose Github issue ? - As it can be edited directly by any member ? - So anyone can correct anything that is wrong: like my English (I do a lot of mistake in English, as it is not my language, so sorry for that) , or any more technical stuff or Xymon things,... ? - If you want to correct something but you are not sure: strike-through? the text (like "~~text~~") that you want to replace and add the one you want. ? - Github issues have an history: (click on edited) so it should not be a problem to revert a mistake (but I did not play much with this feature): and it is a POC. so no problem in any case! Let me know if there is a problem! I will certainly need to fix something (in the form, the content, the way to collaborate ...) Everyone do what he can: no problem if you don't do anything for this POC: and I know this is not the most exciting part of a project... So thanks you in any case Regards Bruno
On 04.10.2023 13:16, Axel Beckert wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 08:57:57PM -0700, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media services:
https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor
New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account reference purposes at the moment:
https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor Might be my bubble, but does anyone in IT still use these platforms, especially Twitter and Reddit?
In 2023, I'd kinda expected a Fediverse (e.g. Mastodon, Firefish, etc.) presence instead of a new account on the centralized and dying Twitter platform.
Good question is though which Fediverse instance might be a good one for Xymon. I would _not_ take the biggest generic ones (like mastodon.social or mstdn.social), but a medium sized one with a good reputation for reliability and a more or less fitting topic, floss.social or fosstodon.org maybe.
(There also exists a Mastodon instance named monitoring.cafe. It seems to be an instance for a monitoring community, but rather new and not yet open:https://monitoring.cafe/about ? I've asked how their plans are:https://chaos.social/@xtaran/111176160822935709)
Not sure about Reddit, but it has gotten quite a bad reputation after some disputes between the company behind it and the community. (Albeit it IMHO didn't get as bad as Twitter's reputation got after the Muskocalypse.)
Then again, I've _never_ used Facebook nor Instagram. (Not sure who's worse these days, Musk or Zuckerberg?) So it really might be just my bubble.
Kind regards, Axel
On Wed, October 4, 2023 04:16, Axel Beckert wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 08:57:57PM -0700, J.C. Cleaver wrote:
Along the lines of the previous update, I've reactivated a Facebook page that I'd set up for the project a long while back (which FB had hidden over time), as well as created handle accounts on various social media services:
https://facebook.com/XymonMonitor
New accounts have been created here, primarily for #hashtag and @account reference purposes at the moment:
https://twitter.com/XymonMonitor https://instagram.com/XymonMonitor https://reddit.com/u/XymonMonitor
Might be my bubble, but does anyone in IT still use these platforms, especially Twitter and Reddit?
I agree that both of those have had their... controversies, however there does seem to still be a lot of tech activity going on there. Twitter is still a mechanism for going viral (accidentally or not) so I figured it would be good to have a presence there at least for tracking and comms. It also could be useful for very quick, one-off questions and support response.
As far as Reddit goes (forgot to mention that Xymon has had a subreddit for a while: https://reddit.com/r/xymon/ ) there's definitely activity in various subreddits adjacent to the monitoring space (if not r/monitoring itself). "sysadmin", "devops", "linux" pick a keyword. Xymon does get mentioned from time to time in discussion, so I think anything that helps increase visibility is probably a good thing for the project.
In 2023, I'd kinda expected a Fediverse (e.g. Mastodon, Firefish, etc.) presence instead of a new account on the centralized and dying Twitter platform.
Good question is though which Fediverse instance might be a good one for Xymon. I would _not_ take the biggest generic ones (like mastodon.social or mstdn.social), but a medium sized one with a good reputation for reliability and a more or less fitting topic, floss.social or fosstodon.org maybe.
(There also exists a Mastodon instance named monitoring.cafe. It seems to be an instance for a monitoring community, but rather new and not yet open: https://monitoring.cafe/about ??? I've asked how their plans are: https://chaos.social/@xtaran/111176160822935709)
This is a good idea. I'm a bit of a newb when it comes to Mastodon, but I know there's a lot of distributed discussion going on. If the community agrees there's one that makes sense to set up for, I agree that would be very helpful.
I know back in the day #xymon at irc.freenode.net was a place people idled in, although I just checked and it's empty now. Not sure if others have moved over to LiberaChat or not.
Other options for communication would include a public Slack (easy enough to set up, and familiar for a lot of enterprise folks who have to live on it whether we like it or not), or Discord (for a different crowd); That said, there's a limit to the number of rooms a human can pay attention to (and apps my cell battery can keep running).
These don't have to all be public/user level, either. If I set up a Development Slack, for example, would others be interested?
Then again, I've _never_ used Facebook nor Instagram. (Not sure who's worse these days, Musk or Zuckerberg???) So it really might be just my bubble.
Facebook probably won't get a huge amount of visibility, but I figured it would be good to at least reactivate that presence for longevity's sake. IG and WhatsApp (which I forgot to post) was really only set up because Facebook/Meta kept nagging me to do so as soon as I reactivated the Page. I personally can't see much reason for IG tagging, but if people would like to send shots of their dashboards and/or NOC rooms with Xymon up, that could be fun.
One thing I've noticed on IG is that their interests ad seem to microtarget pretty well once you're in the ecosystem, and I do keep getting spammed with monitoring software ads (Datadog, IIRC) and sysadmin resources, so it seems there's a market of *some* type to be reached there.
(I'm drawing the line at TikTok though, thanks.)
For completeness' sake, I also set up a YouTube page (https://www.youtube.com/@XymonMonitor ) I won't have time any time soon to deal with video content, but there are actually a couple of small Xymon videos on YT out there already. And with the plethora of Xymon/Hobbit presentations people have made, I think there might be an opportunity for explainer-style videos, or simply presentation recordings, in the future.
Again, placeholders for now.
Regards, -jc
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