Advantages of Xymon vs Nagios
For me is simplicity. I find Nagios's GUI complex unlike Xymon which is simple and does the job just as well.
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1. Advantages of Xymon vs Nagios? (Andrew Rakowski) 2. Re: Advantages of Xymon vs Nagios? (LOZOVSKY, DANIEL L) 3. Re: Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase (Becker Christian) 4. Re: Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase (Becker Christian) 5. Re: Advantages of Xymon vs Nagios? (Olivier AUDRY) 6. Re: Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase (Becker Christian) 7. Re: Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase (Steve B)
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 17:36:10 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Rakowski <landrew at pnnl.gov> To: "xymon at xymon.com" <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: [Xymon] Advantages of Xymon vs Nagios? Message-ID: <alpine.LRH.2.11.1502081659100.33763 at spock.pnl.gov> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
I've been using Big Brother since 1999, and Xymon for the last couple of years (on a different project at the lab), but recently, a team member has suggested that we switch infrastructure monitoring to Nagios, which he's been using on other systems he manages elsewhere in the lab.
He's using something called OMD (the Open Monitoring Distribution - from http://omdistro.org/ ), which is supposed to improve on the complexity of using Nagios. Our management would like us to do a comparison to see if we should switch from our old Big Brother monitoring (which is still running well) to a more up to date Xymon or convert instead to OMD/Nagios.
Looking for information on Xymon and Nagios comparisons, I found this comment from Henrik in the Xymon mailing list archive:
http://lists.xymon.com/archive/2006-June/007530.htmlthat mentions the ease of setup and use of Xymon as compared to Nagios, but that comment is nine years old.
Daniel's recent comments on this list about wanting to move from Nagios to Xymon:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, LOZOVSKY, DANIEL L wrote (in part):
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Installing xymon/apache as a non-root user
[...snip...]
community. I have been pushing AT&T to utilize xymon instead of nagios. I have been using BB open source version for almost 10 years and it really saved us at Supply Chain. Of course, I had to make a lot of modifications to it. Xymon is the next logical step to help make things much better. [...snip...]
has me wondering what I can point to as good reasons to use Xymon vs Nagios, as certainly, people do want to switch.
So, what are reasons that folks like Xymon better than Nagios (besides all the helpful info from the great group of folks I've been reading during my years of lurking on the list...)?
Best regards,
-Andrew
Message: 2 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 03:35:13 +0000 From: "LOZOVSKY, DANIEL L" <dl1025 at att.com> To: "<landrew at pnnl.gov>" <landrew at pnnl.gov> Cc: "xymon at xymon.com" <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Advantages of Xymon vs Nagios? Message-ID: <49AD2AC0-173E-4285-BB90-91470E38812C at att.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
I can tell you this much. I engaged a nagios team at AT&T at the request of my management. After showing the nagios SMEs what I needed to do in order to monitor the worlds biggest oracle e-business ERP implantation, the nagios SME told me that I would need to implement a farm of nagios servers to do the same that I am doing with my modified BB one solaris server. Right now with BB that is running on a 16 year old solaris server, I am monitoring server health, Oracle db health, network and complex internal Supply Chain logic.
Nagios is a decent product, just does not work for what we need to do at supply chain.
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On Feb 8, 2015, at 6:36 PM, Andrew Rakowski <landrew at pnnl.gov> wrote:
I've been using Big Brother since 1999, and Xymon for the last couple of years (on a different project at the lab), but recently, a team member has suggested that we switch infrastructure monitoring to Nagios, which he's been using on other systems he manages elsewhere in the lab.
He's using something called OMD (the Open Monitoring Distribution - from http://omdistro.org/ ), which is supposed to improve on the complexity of using Nagios. Our management would like us to do a comparison to see if we should switch from our old Big Brother monitoring (which is still running well) to a more up to date Xymon or convert instead to OMD/Nagios.
Looking for information on Xymon and Nagios comparisons, I found this comment from Henrik in the Xymon mailing list archive:
http://lists.xymon.com/archive/2006-June/007530.htmlthat mentions the ease of setup and use of Xymon as compared to Nagios, but that comment is nine years old.
Daniel's recent comments on this list about wanting to move from Nagios to Xymon:
On Fri, 6 Feb 2015, LOZOVSKY, DANIEL L wrote (in part):
Subject: Re: [Xymon] Installing xymon/apache as a non-root user [...snip...] community. I have been pushing AT&T to utilize xymon instead of nagios. I have been using BB open source version for almost 10 years and it really saved us at Supply Chain. Of course, I had to make a lot of modifications to it. Xymon is the next logical step to help make things much better. [...snip...]
has me wondering what I can point to as good reasons to use Xymon vs Nagios, as certainly, people do want to switch.
So, what are reasons that folks like Xymon better than Nagios (besides all the helpful info from the great group of folks I've been reading during my years of lurking on the list...)?
Best regards,
-Andrew
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Message: 3 Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 07:43:25 +0000 From: Becker Christian <christian.becker at rhein-zeitung.net> To: 'Ralph Mitchell' <ralphmitchell at gmail.com> Cc: "xymon at xymon.com" <xymon at xymon.com> Subject: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase Message-ID: <51D96C1418C7434CA6423751C45C6EA8207E6196 at w2k8-ex-mb-2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Can you shortly explain the „checkpoint“ file?
Regards Christian
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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 16:37 An: Becker Christian Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase
If you stop Xymon, save a copy of the checkpoint file, then edit the file to change all the misspellings , that might do it. I don't know where else it might be "remembered". You might also need to rename and/or edit some history files.
Ralph Mitchell On Feb 6, 2015 9:42 AM, "Becker Christian" <christian.becker at rhein-zeitung.net<mailto:christian.becker at rhein-zeitung.net>> wrote: Ralph,
that’s what i’ve learned from that behaviour.
But I’m wondering if it wouldn’t be possible to ->completely wipe out the word<- in UPPERCASE out of my Xymon data? So that my script afterwards creates a Normalcase word?
Regards Christian
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Von: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com<mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com>] Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Februar 2015 12:48 An: Becker Christian Cc: John Thurston; xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Betreff: Re: AW: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase
Well, yes, you can change the test name to a completely different word. However, the first report with the new name defines the uppercase/lowercase characteristics for that word.
So, you can change the test name from DATANODE to dN, which is a different word, but you won't subsequently be able to change dN to DN or dN or Dn.
Ralph Mitchell On Feb 6, 2015 2:40 AM, "Becker Christian" <christian.becker at rhein-zeitung.net<mailto:christian.becker at rhein-zeitung.net>> wrote: I think that’s not 100% right, since i was able to rename this test from “DATANODE” to “DN”; so this was successful. But after that, when my script was reporting again to the Xymon server, there was an additional column “DATANODE” again. So, that part matches your answer, that the next upcoming messages will result in the “old” column name.
Regards Christian
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Von: Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com<mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com>] Im Auftrag von Ralph Mitchell Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2015 18:24 An: John Thurston Cc: xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Betreff: Re: [Xymon] Renaming a test from UPPERCASE to NormalCase
In my experience, it is next to impossible to rename a test column. Whatever it first shows up as, that's what is remembered. I guess subsequent reports are matched case-insensitively, so any other upper/lower case combination is mapped to that first record.
Or maybe things have changed since I last tried, but that's how I remember it. Rename was for hostnames only.
Ralph Mitchell On Feb 5, 2015 11:48 AM, "John Thurston" <john.thurston at alaska.gov<mailto:john.thurston at alaska.gov>> wrote: On 2/5/2015 6:52 AM, Becker Christian wrote: All,
i want to rename a test column from UPPERCASE to NormalCase.
I tried this using the command:
xymon localhost “rename MYHOST DATANODE DataNode”
Unfortunately this doesn’t seem to work.
Did you try the ol' two-step? “rename MYHOST DATANODE foo” “rename MYHOST foo DataNode”
Is your test script reporting in as "DATANODE" or as "DataNode"?
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