Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?
I know a lot of people seem to be using checked out svn versions, but it would be nice if we could get another tarball release as well, consider that the last one was quite a while ago.
I've noticed that the demo/prod site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/ already self-identifies as Xymon 4.3.0-1.3; I'm a little curious what the larger changes from 4.3.0-beta2 have been...
Regards, -jc
On 06/21/2010 04:25 PM, Cleaver, Japheth wrote:
I know a lot of people seem to be using checked out svn versions, but it would be nice if we could get another tarball release as well, consider that the last one was quite a while ago.
I've noticed that the demo/prod site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/ already self-identifies as Xymon 4.3.0-1.3; I'm a little curious what the larger changes from 4.3.0-beta2 have been...
I've been wondering about this, and about the overall state of xymon development in general. Honestly, it looks pretty bleak to me. I can't shake my concerns that it will become an orphaned project, even with the very active user community rallying around it. Xymon is a solid, mature product and has served us all well for years, but the snmp support and some sprucing up of the web UI would make a world of difference to me and I'm sure to other users as well. I'd feel a lot better if I had a more clear vision on where the project is going.
Tom
I think the main (and only) xymon developer got wear out over the years, last time I heard from the list from people seeing him far away in same office of his existence status. Nothing bad happened to him, "he need a break" is a reasonable statement.
So lets let him take a break. Otherwise someone need to read through the source code tree and generate function architecture diagram in his head and understand/test the patches from community with confidence it won't make it worse. In fact should be more than one person need to stand up and commit to become hobbit developers. So we won't have Single point of failure in our Xymon development model.
Currently, there is no problem actually, no patches committed, no roadmaps and that is all. it still work and far better than other free and commercial system monitoring solution.
I see many users stand up to support other new comers. this will take off a lots of burden used provided by Henrik.
So the real question should be, "how many experienced users willing to become developers ?" We all know this a job that without pay, using your personal free time ... etc.
tj
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Tom Georgoulias <tomg at mcclatchyinteractive.com> wrote:
On 06/21/2010 04:25 PM, Cleaver, Japheth wrote:
I know a lot of people seem to be using checked out svn versions, but it would be nice if we could get another tarball release as well, consider that the last one was quite a while ago.
I've noticed that the demo/prod site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/ already self-identifies as Xymon 4.3.0-1.3; I'm a little curious what the larger changes from 4.3.0-beta2 have been...
I've been wondering about this, and about the overall state of xymon development in general. Honestly, it looks pretty bleak to me. I can't shake my concerns that it will become an orphaned project, even with the very active user community rallying around it. Xymon is a solid, mature product and has served us all well for years, but the snmp support and some sprucing up of the web UI would make a world of difference to me and I'm sure to other users as well. I'd feel a lot better if I had a more clear vision on where the project is going.
Tom
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Hi Guys
Like I mentioned in the mails before I would love to step up to the plate. Where do I sign up? I have some CSS/XHTML skills to spruce up the web interface. I also have some C/C++ skills. So I can have a go at the development. However like TJ mentioned we should really first get some kick arse documentation produced.
Regards Neil
Regards
-----Original Message----- From: TJ Yang [mailto:tjyang2001 at gmail.com] Sent: 24 June 2010 10:44 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?
I think the main (and only) xymon developer got wear out over the years, last time I heard from the list from people seeing him far away in same office of his existence status. Nothing bad happened to him, "he need a break" is a reasonable statement.
So lets let him take a break. Otherwise someone need to read through the source code tree and generate function architecture diagram in his head and understand/test the patches from community with confidence it won't make it worse. In fact should be more than one person need to stand up and commit to become hobbit developers. So we won't have Single point of failure in our Xymon development model.
Currently, there is no problem actually, no patches committed, no roadmaps and that is all. it still work and far better than other free and commercial system monitoring solution.
I see many users stand up to support other new comers. this will take off a lots of burden used provided by Henrik.
So the real question should be, "how many experienced users willing to become developers ?" We all know this a job that without pay, using your personal free time ... etc.
tj
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Tom Georgoulias <tomg at mcclatchyinteractive.com> wrote:
On 06/21/2010 04:25 PM, Cleaver, Japheth wrote:
I know a lot of people seem to be using checked out svn versions, but it would be nice if we could get another tarball release as well, consider that the last one was quite a while ago.
I've noticed that the demo/prod site at http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit/ already self-identifies as Xymon 4.3.0-1.3; I'm a little curious what the larger changes from 4.3.0-beta2 have been...
I've been wondering about this, and about the overall state of xymon development in general. Honestly, it looks pretty bleak to me. I can't shake my concerns that it will become an orphaned project, even with the very active user community rallying around it. Xymon is a solid, mature product and has served us all well for years, but the snmp support and some sprucing up of the web UI would make a world of difference to me and I'm sure to other users as well. I'd feel a lot better if I had a more clear vision on where the project is going.
Tom
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Is there a way to get yellow or red alerts for a given process based on number of instances.
For example, I'd like to get a yellow alert if there are more than 1000 database connections, and a red alert if there are more than 1500 database connections.
Right now, I have to specify two different proc check lines, and once the red condition is triggered, you get alerts for both yellow and red...
Is there a way to get a yellow/red condition via the PROC directive based on number of processes? Can't find anything in the docs that points this out.
Thanks, Taylor
Yes. RTFM Hobbit man pages. Help --> Configuring Monitoring Click on hobbit-clients.cfg Scroll down to "PROCS STATUS COLUMN SETTINGS"
Cheers Vernon
On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Taylor Lewick <tlewick at tradebotsystems.com> wrote:
Is there a way to get yellow or red alerts for a given process based on number of instances.
For example, I'd like to get a yellow alert if there are more than 1000 database connections, and a red alert if there are more than 1500 database connections.
Right now, I have to specify two different proc check lines, and once the red condition is triggered, you get alerts for both yellow and red...
Is there a way to get a yellow/red condition via the PROC directive based on number of processes? Can't find anything in the docs that points this out.
Thanks, Taylor
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On Friday, 25 June 2010 06:28:12 Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys
Like I mentioned in the mails before I would love to step up to the plate. Where do I sign up? I have some CSS/XHTML skills to spruce up the web interface. I also have some C/C++ skills. So I can have a go at the development. However like TJ mentioned we should really first get some kick arse documentation produced.
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people are subscribed, including people with commit access.
However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik (which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list, and discuss a way forward there.
Regards, Buchan
Agreed. I have a sf id will join the list as well.
-----Original Message----- From: Buchan Milne [mailto:bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net] Sent: 28 June 2010 10:28 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Cc: Neil Franken Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?
On Friday, 25 June 2010 06:28:12 Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys
Like I mentioned in the mails before I would love to step up to the plate. Where do I sign up? I have some CSS/XHTML skills to spruce up the web interface. I also have some C/C++ skills. So I can have a go at the development. However like TJ mentioned we should really first get some kick arse documentation produced.
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people are subscribed, including people with commit access.
However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik (which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list, and discuss a way forward there.
Regards, Buchan
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tj
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:46 AM, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Agreed. I have a sf id will join the list as well.
-----Original Message----- From: Buchan Milne [mailto:bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net] Sent: 28 June 2010 10:28 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Cc: Neil Franken Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?
On Friday, 25 June 2010 06:28:12 Neil Franken wrote:
Hi Guys
Like I mentioned in the mails before I would love to step up to the plate. Where do I sign up? I have some CSS/XHTML skills to spruce up the web interface. I also have some C/C++ skills. So I can have a go at the development. However like TJ mentioned we should really first get some kick arse documentation produced.
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people are subscribed, including people with commit access.
However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik (which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list, and discuss a way forward there.
Regards, Buchan
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On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people are subscribed, including people with commit access.
However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik (which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role? I recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take a break. However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other things. I've been around open source long enough to know how the process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their projects. Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have to make a choice on how to move forward. It would be best for the community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where they might go.
Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list, and discuss a way forward there.
I joined that list so that I can follow the discussion, but I do think this topic is of interest to members of this list, too.
Tom
Hi All
I agree with you 100% Tom. We need to find out from Henrik What his position regarding Xymon is at the moment. Xymon has saved me countless of hours when I had to trouble shoot issues and made me extremely pro-active in identifying issues before they become operational messes.
I have tried Nagios, OpenNMS and Zabbix but they are a little heavy and run into the analysis paralysis territory for me. The 'spirit' of xymon for me is a light weight easy to install and easy to use system. However I think Xymon could use with a little drive and development and having Henrik try to respond to all the request, bugs and so on is not feasible for one person.
Personally I would like to see Xymon being featured when i do searches on open source Monitoring tools. For example SF project of the month is the OpenNMS system. I want Xymon there.
I also think as a collective that use the Xymon system we should look at making forking BBWin into XyWin?
Anyway these are my thoughts. I have joined the developers list and will contribute to that from now on.
Regards Neil
-----Original Message----- From: Tom Georgoulias [mailto:tomg at mcclatchyinteractive.com] Sent: 29 June 2010 06:00 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Any idea on a 4.3.0 third beta (or rc?) timeframe?
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people are subscribed, including people with commit access.
However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik (which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role? I recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take
a break. However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other things. I've been around open source long enough to know how the process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their projects. Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have to make a choice on how to move forward. It would be best for the community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where they might go.
Anyway, I think we should move this discussion to the developer list, and discuss a way forward there.
I joined that list so that I can follow the discussion, but I do think this topic is of interest to members of this list, too.
Tom
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In <4C2A1897.6080700 at mcclatchyinteractive.com> Tom Georgoulias <tomg at mcclatchyinteractive.com> writes:
On 06/28/2010 04:28 AM, Buchan Milne wrote:
There is a developers list for the hobbitmon project on SF. A number of people are subscribed, including people with commit access.
However, there is currently only one project admin for the SF project, Henrik (which means no more committers can be added at present, and some features that may assist in collaboration can't be enabled).
Is Henrik still interested in being the single admin, or should he be contacted and asked if another person can be added in that role? I recall postings where he described health issues and also a desire to stop working so much on xymon, and I don't fault him for wanting to take a break. However, it would be nice to know if he plans to work on the project again, or if he's done with it and wants to move onto other things. I've been around open source long enough to know how the process works and I respect the developers who put time in on their projects. Sure xymon works fine now, but if something changes in a distro one or more of us are using and it breaks xymon, we'll all have to make a choice on how to move forward. It would be best for the community as a whole if we had an idea of where things stood and where they might go.
Tom has pretty much hit the nail on the head here.
It's true that I have pretty much stopped working on Xymon development. I am not quite sure why, but for some time it has just seemed to be more of a tedious chore than something I would look forward to. I think the task of getting all the documentation lined up for 4.3.0 (that is the main outstanding issue for that release) just doesn't seem all that appealing...
So I would really welcome someone who would be willing to take over the project management / admin tasks. Even if it were just as a co-admin, it would still be nice to have someone else with the enthusiasm that is necessary to push the project forward.
For me, the ideal would be if I could focus on writing code instead of running the project.
So if you have the ambition and energy of trying to run this project, please speak up. Choosing a (co-)admin for Xymon is an important decision, and one that definitely needs some community involvement. All of you must feel comfortable with the person/persons we choose for this task.
Regards, Henrik
participants (8)
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bgmilne@staff.telkomsa.net
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everett.vernon@gmail.com
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henrik@hswn.dk
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jcleaver@soe.sony.com
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nfranken@theunlimitedworld.co.za
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tjyang2001@gmail.com
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tlewick@tradebotsystems.com
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tomg@mcclatchyinteractive.com