Hey,
I have the graphing working just fine...however the rrd file is huge...below is a sample of the status message getting sent to hobbit.
There are 16 terminal users on winserver1.
Of the 16 total users:
Active Sessions: 2
Disconnected Sessions: 14
Group1 Users: 7
Group2 Users: 9USERNAME SESSIONNAME ID STATE IDLE TIME LOGON TIME
user01 4 Disc none
9/18/2006 3:52 PM
user02 1 Disc none
9/20/2006 3:33 PM
user03 rdp-tcp#360 6 Active 6:09
9/22/2006 5:11 PM
user04 12 Disc none
9/26/2006 9:15 AM
user05 14 Disc none
9/27/2006 10:07 AM
user06 15 Disc none
9/27/2006 2:52 PM
user07 11 Disc none
9/27/2006 4:55 PM
user08 9 Disc none
9/27/2006 5:37 PM
user09 16 Disc none
9/28/2006 3:49 PM
user10 rdp-tcp#359 2 Active .
10/2/2006 10:57 AM
user11 5 Disc none
10/2/2006 2:56 PM
user12 7 Disc none
10/6/2006 10:15 AM
user13 8 Disc none
10/10/2006 9:21 AM
user14 3 Disc none
10/11/2006 2:51 PM
user15 18 Disc none
10/11/2006 3:50 PM
user16 17 Disc none
10/12/2006 1:56 PM
When I looked at the file sizes the termusers.rrd file is huge compared to the other rrd files for this same system, so I did a dump and looked at the content...it created a rrd entry for EVERY userXX as well...broken up in strange ways...regardless...I want it ignore everything except the 4 items above USERNAME...can I do this with NCV (which is what I'm currently using) or will it require a separate script? I'm going to continue digging into the docs and mailing list but thought I'd ask while doing so (in case you could save me some time).
=G=
Note, this is hobbit 4.2.0 (unpatched) and the client is BBWin with a custom script.
Galen Johnson wrote:
Hey,
I have the graphing working just fine...however the rrd file is huge...below is a sample of the status message getting sent to hobbit.
There are 16 terminal users on winserver1.
Of the 16 total users:
Active Sessions: 2 Disconnected Sessions: 14 Group1 Users: 7 Group2 Users: 9
USERNAME SESSIONNAME ID STATE IDLE TIME LOGON TIME user01 4 Disc none
9/18/2006 3:52 PM user02 1 Disc none
9/20/2006 3:33 PM user03 rdp-tcp#360 6 Active 6:09
9/22/2006 5:11 PM user04 12 Disc none
9/26/2006 9:15 AM user05 14 Disc none
9/27/2006 10:07 AM user06 15 Disc none
9/27/2006 2:52 PM user07 11 Disc none
9/27/2006 4:55 PM user08 9 Disc none
9/27/2006 5:37 PM user09 16 Disc none
9/28/2006 3:49 PM user10 rdp-tcp#359 2 Active .
10/2/2006 10:57 AM user11 5 Disc none
10/2/2006 2:56 PM user12 7 Disc none
10/6/2006 10:15 AM user13 8 Disc none
10/10/2006 9:21 AM user14 3 Disc none
10/11/2006 2:51 PM user15 18 Disc none
10/11/2006 3:50 PM user16 17 Disc none
10/12/2006 1:56 PMWhen I looked at the file sizes the termusers.rrd file is huge compared to the other rrd files for this same system, so I did a dump and looked at the content...it created a rrd entry for EVERY userXX as well...broken up in strange ways...regardless...I want it ignore everything except the 4 items above USERNAME...can I do this with NCV (which is what I'm currently using) or will it require a separate script? I'm going to continue digging into the docs and mailing list but thought I'd ask while doing so (in case you could save me some time).
=G=
Note, this is hobbit 4.2.0 (unpatched) and the client is BBWin with a custom script.
Ok...I've tracked down part of it...I think the reason it is grabbing the lower section is the colon in the time...based on the hobbitd_rrd man page it looks for NAME-COLON-VALUE and strips out whitespace...here're are a couple of entries from the dump (easy enough to duplicate for testing):
OK...my cut-n-paste from my remote desktop just hosed so I'll have to provide the info later if you really need it...
There needs to be a way to define a data block within a status message and have NCV graphing ignore everything outside of it...something like
<!-- <BEGIN DATA>
entry1:value1 entry2:value2
<END DATA > -->
that way it will be hidden on the web page or stripped out...
=G=
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:45:10PM -0400, Galen Johnson wrote:
Active Sessions: 2 Disconnected Sessions: 14 Group1 Users: 7 Group2 Users: 9
There needs to be a way to define a data block within a status message and have NCV graphing ignore everything outside of it...
Setup the NCV_foo setting like this:
NCV_foo="ActiveSessions:GAUGE,DisconnectedSessions:GAUGE,Group1Users:GAUGE,Group2Users:GAUGE,*:NONE"
The "*:NONE" makes the NCV handler ignore everything except the datasets explicitly listed.
Note: you'll have to delete the current rrd file when making this kind of change.
Regards, Henrik
Henrik Stoerner wrote:
On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 09:45:10PM -0400, Galen Johnson wrote:
Active Sessions: 2 Disconnected Sessions: 14 Group1 Users: 7 Group2 Users: 9
There needs to be a way to define a data block within a status message and have NCV graphing ignore everything outside of it...
Setup the NCV_foo setting like this:
NCV_foo="ActiveSessions:GAUGE,DisconnectedSessions:GAUGE,Group1Users:GAUGE,Group2Users:GAUGE,*:NONE"
The "*:NONE" makes the NCV handler ignore everything except the datasets explicitly listed.
Note: you'll have to delete the current rrd file when making this kind of change.
Regards, Henrik
Thanks Henrik...I just saw that while re-reading the man page...I should know better than to do this stuff when I'm tired...Hobbit just rocks...
Just as a curiousity, can you use hobbitrrd to split out the individual
datasets like the disk tests and tcp test do...so I could have
termusers.ActiveSessions.rrd, termusers.DisconnectedSessions.rrd, etc?
That would be extremely useful for tests which provide a lot of
differnet datapoints. Maybe by defining the TEST2RRD like
termuser=NCV:split? I would think that would be the only component
that would have to change if I have understand how that works properly.
=G=
=G=
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:09:16AM -0400, Galen Johnson wrote:
Just as a curiousity, can you use hobbitrrd to split out the individual datasets like the disk tests and tcp test do...so I could have termusers.ActiveSessions.rrd, termusers.DisconnectedSessions.rrd, etc?
Not yet, it has been suggested before and I think it makes a lot of sense. So it will show up someday.
Regards, Henrik
Henrik Stoerner wrote:
On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:09:16AM -0400, Galen Johnson wrote:
Just as a curiousity, can you use hobbitrrd to split out the individual datasets like the disk tests and tcp test do...so I could have termusers.ActiveSessions.rrd, termusers.DisconnectedSessions.rrd, etc?
Not yet, it has been suggested before and I think it makes a lot of sense. So it will show up someday.
Regards, Henrik
OK...last question...let's say I want to set up some datasets to graph but I don't necessarily want to surface them on the web page...if I have my script just wrap the info within http comment tags (<!-- -->), will the NCV still parse them or will it strip out everything in the comments?
=G=
This way I can change ip address/hardware of hobbit server when needed.
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On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 01:45:09PM -0500, T.J. Yang wrote:
This way I can change ip address/hardware of hobbit server when needed.
Yes, it is OK to put the hostname of the Hobbit server in the BBDISPLAY setting.
However, it does mean that if DNS breaks, your clients will no longer be updating the Hobbit status display.
Regards, Henrik
I am trying to put up a place for hobbit trending graphs to be displayed and analyzed for its meaning.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Administration_Gu...
Please post your trending graph that shows problems and it interpretation.
in my ping graph, I don't unstand why the line change some much.
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I have a bb-hosts.cfg setup similar to:
page SOLARIS Solaris x.x.x.x host1 # ldap x.x.x.x host2 # dns
page WINDOWS Windows x.x.x.x host3 # smtp
page HELP HelpDesk 0.0.0.0 host1 # noconn 0.0.0.0 host2 # noconn 0.0.0.0 host3 # noconn
I go to the HelpDesk page, and try to use the Enable/Disable feature, but it does not show me any system to enable/disable. It does if I am on the Solaris page (only shows host1, host2), and Windows (only shows host3).
Is there anyway to have the enable/disable feture work for all hosts that appear on the page, regardless of where they are?
We have pages with hosts, and then pages with services. We want to be able to disable all tests on a service page (or host page) and the corresponding service/host on the other pages it appears on with also get disabled too. Is that possible? Is there a specific tag I am missing in order to get this working?
Thanks.
---Eric
This actually after looking at it seems to be in the Enable/Disable "Pagename pattern" Filter option. It picks the page by default you are browsing, but does not lists hosts that are 0.0.0.0 if they are listed on other pages. How do I fix that?
Thanks.
---Eric
-----Original Message----- From: Eric Meddaugh [mailto:etmsys at rit.edu] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 08:20 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Enable/disable question
I have a bb-hosts.cfg setup similar to:
page SOLARIS Solaris x.x.x.x host1 # ldap x.x.x.x host2 # dns
page WINDOWS Windows x.x.x.x host3 # smtp
page HELP HelpDesk 0.0.0.0 host1 # noconn 0.0.0.0 host2 # noconn 0.0.0.0 host3 # noconn
I go to the HelpDesk page, and try to use the Enable/Disable feature, but it does not show me any system to enable/disable. It does if I am on the Solaris page (only shows host1, host2), and Windows (only shows host3).
Is there anyway to have the enable/disable feture work for all hosts that appear on the page, regardless of where they are?
We have pages with hosts, and then pages with services. We want to be able to disable all tests on a service page (or host page) and the corresponding service/host on the other pages it appears on with also get disabled too. Is that possible? Is there a specific tag I am missing in order to get this working?
Thanks.
---Eric
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I'm just wondering if there is something I can adjust so that when you filter by page it picks up all the hosts on the page, including the ones with 0.0.0.0 IPs or noconn tags.
Thanks.
---Eric
-----Original Message----- From: Eric Meddaugh [mailto:etmsys at rit.edu] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 09:03 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Enable/disable question
This actually after looking at it seems to be in the Enable/Disable "Pagename pattern" Filter option. It picks the page by default you are browsing, but does not lists hosts that are 0.0.0.0 if they are listed on other pages. How do I fix that?
Thanks.
---Eric
-----Original Message----- From: Eric Meddaugh [mailto:etmsys at rit.edu] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 08:20 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Enable/disable question
I have a bb-hosts.cfg setup similar to:
page SOLARIS Solaris x.x.x.x host1 # ldap x.x.x.x host2 # dns
page WINDOWS Windows x.x.x.x host3 # smtp
page HELP HelpDesk 0.0.0.0 host1 # noconn 0.0.0.0 host2 # noconn 0.0.0.0 host3 # noconn
I go to the HelpDesk page, and try to use the Enable/Disable feature, but it does not show me any system to enable/disable. It does if I am on the Solaris page (only shows host1, host2), and Windows (only shows host3).
Is there anyway to have the enable/disable feture work for all hosts that appear on the page, regardless of where they are?
We have pages with hosts, and then pages with services. We want to be able to disable all tests on a service page (or host page) and the corresponding service/host on the other pages it appears on with also get disabled too. Is that possible? Is there a specific tag I am missing in order to get this working?
Thanks.
---Eric
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T.J. Yang wrote:
I am trying to put up a place for hobbit trending graphs to be displayed and analyzed for its meaning.
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Administration_Gu...
Please post your trending graph that shows problems and it interpretation.
in my ping graph, I don't unstand why the line change some much.
T.J. Yang
Hi,
I also have a lot on "triangle shape" graphs, especially on machines that are quite idle and with a very low latency.
I heavily suspect that those are caused by rounding errors when the values are small.
You can see the problem on those two examples (one has a "baseline", the other a "ceiling"):
http://lenadan.gildas.free.fr/hobbit/tcp_example1.png http://lenadan.gildas.free.fr/hobbit/tcp_example2.png
Cheers, Gildas
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"Client S/W:" has empty value, how can I enable this ? I like to see the version for hobbit client display in this field.
Thanks
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From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] How to enable "Client S/W:" in info column ? Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:04:23 -0500
Like here, http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit-cgi/bb-hostsvc.sh?HOST=fenris.hswn.dk&SERVICE=info
"Client S/W:" has empty value, how can I enable this ? I like to see the version for hobbit client display in this field.
Looks like I ran into a bug in version 4.2.0. $BBHOME/etc/clientversion.cfg was not created by default.
after some code tracing on clientupdate.c I found etc/clientversion.cfg is needed.
root at test> ./clientupdate --level 4.2.0.1 root at test> root at test> cat ../etc/clientversion.cfg 4.2.0.1 root at test>
Regards
Thanks
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From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] How to enable "Client S/W:" in info column ? Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:29:12 -0500
From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] How to enable "Client S/W:" in info column ? Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:04:23 -0500
Like here, http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit-cgi/bb-hostsvc.sh?HOST=fenris.hswn.dk&SERVICE=info
"Client S/W:" has empty value, how can I enable this ? I like to see the version for hobbit client display in this field.
Also can "Client S/W" rename to "hobbit client version ?
Looks like I ran into a bug in version 4.2.0. $BBHOME/etc/clientversion.cfg was not created by default.
after some code tracing on clientupdate.c I found etc/clientversion.cfg is needed.
root at test> ./clientupdate --level 4.2.0.1 root at test> root at test> cat ../etc/clientversion.cfg 4.2.0.1 root at test>
Regards
Thanks
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Another informative field to add in the future to tell a hobbit client is configured remotely or locally on server.
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T.J. Yang wrote:
From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] How to enable "Client S/W:" in info column ? Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:29:12 -0500
From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] How to enable "Client S/W:" in info column ? Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:04:23 -0500
Like here, http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit-cgi/bb-hostsvc.sh?HOST=fenris.hswn.dk&SERVICE=info
"Client S/W:" has empty value, how can I enable this ? I like to see the version for hobbit client display in this field.
Also can "Client S/W" rename to "hobbit client version ?
Looks like I ran into a bug in version 4.2.0. $BBHOME/etc/clientversion.cfg was not created by default.
It is not a bug, it just means you have not done a clientupdate. You create the client versions, the client version names are arbitrary. See the man page for clientupdate for more detail.
after some code tracing on clientupdate.c I found etc/clientversion.cfg is needed.
root at test> ./clientupdate --level 4.2.0.1 root at test> root at test> cat ../etc/clientversion.cfg 4.2.0.1 root at test>
Regards
Thanks
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From: David Gore <David.Gore at VerizonBusiness.com> Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] How to enable "Client S/W:" in info column ? Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 23:09:09 +0000
T.J. Yang wrote:
From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] How to enable "Client S/W:" in info column ? Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:29:12 -0500
From: "T.J. Yang" <tj_yang at hotmail.com> Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] How to enable "Client S/W:" in info column ? Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 21:04:23 -0500
Like here, http://www.hswn.dk/hobbit-cgi/bb-hostsvc.sh?HOST=fenris.hswn.dk&SERVICE=info
"Client S/W:" has empty value, how can I enable this ? I like to see the version for hobbit client display in this field.
Also can "Client S/W" rename to "hobbit client version ?
Looks like I ran into a bug in version 4.2.0. $BBHOME/etc/clientversion.cfg was not created by default.
It is not a bug, it just means you have not done a clientupdate. You create the client versions, the client version names are arbitrary. See the man page for clientupdate for more detail.
Thanks for the followup, IMHO, it should be a bug (or a missing feature). click on info column and see "Client S/W" has no vaule will definitely not acceptable the management.
I now have all my client packages genterate a etc/clientversion.cfg with a version number in it after client installation.
Looking forward to try out the auto client update.
tj
after some code tracing on clientupdate.c I found etc/clientversion.cfg is needed.
root at test> ./clientupdate --level 4.2.0.1 root at test> root at test> cat ../etc/clientversion.cfg 4.2.0.1 root at test>
Regards
Thanks
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David.Gore＠VerizonBusiness.com
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etmsys＠rit.edu
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gjohnson＠trantor.org
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gn1＠sanger.ac.uk
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henrik＠hswn.dk
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tj_yang＠hotmail.com