"Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
My suggestion is to kill all lawyers! <grin>
Actually, I think "hobbitmon" is good.
Jim Smith
-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:30 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
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I agree though it does sound a little too Jamaican mon. ;)
From: "Smith, Jim" <JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com> Reply-To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:31:22 -0600 To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> Subject: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
My suggestion is to kill all lawyers! <grin>
Actually, I think "hobbitmon" is good.
Jim Smith
-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:30 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
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I know I could go for a trip to Jamaica. Maybe Hobbitmon will help me keep those thoughts at bay.
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:41 PM, rdeal <rdeal at jcvi.org> wrote:
I agree though it does sound a little too Jamaican mon. ;)
From: "Smith, Jim" <JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com> Reply-To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:31:22 -0600 To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> Subject: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
My suggestion is to kill all lawyers! <grin>
Actually, I think "hobbitmon" is good.
Jim Smith
-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:30 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
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Ja, hobbitmon sounds good mon ;) That is, if it's acceptable to the devils advocates.
Cheers, Omar
On fim 31.júl 2008 20:28, Josh Luthman wrote:
I know I could go for a trip to Jamaica. Maybe Hobbitmon will help me keep those thoughts at bay.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:41 PM, rdeal <rdeal at jcvi.org <mailto:rdeal at jcvi.org>> wrote:
I agree though it does sound a little too Jamaican mon. ;) > From: "Smith, Jim" <JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com <mailto:JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com>> > Reply-To: <hobbit at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit at hswn.dk>> > Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 10:31:22 -0600 > To: <hobbit at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit at hswn.dk>> > Subject: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will > happen > > My suggestion is to kill all lawyers! <grin> > > Actually, I think "hobbitmon" is good. > > Jim Smith > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk <mailto:henrik at hswn.dk>] > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:30 AM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit at hswn.dk> > Subject: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will > happen > > Hi everyone, > > some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the > Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the > Hobbit monitor project. > > Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. > They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming > that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, > merchandise etc. that they produce. > > So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit > monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or > "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know > if I pick something else.to much > > The full correspondance can be seen at > http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/ > > My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; > this is most like the current name, and it would also fit > with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. > the "hobbitmon.sf.net <http://hobbitmon.sf.net>" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and > get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; > I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named > "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS > entries ... > > But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions. >to much > > Regards, > Henrik > > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk> > > > > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk> > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk>
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Change the name or kill the lawyers? Let's do both! :D
Hobbitmon is quite acceptable, I think.
Ulric
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Ulric Eriksson <ulric at siag.nu> wrote:
Change the name or kill the lawyers? Let's do both! :D
Hobbitmon is quite acceptable, I think.
I like `Hobbitmon' too
Ulric
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Bilbo?
-----Original Message----- From: Asif Iqbal [mailto:vadud3 at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:05 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Ulric Eriksson <ulric at siag.nu> wrote:
Change the name or kill the lawyers? Let's do both! :D
Hobbitmon is quite acceptable, I think.
I like `Hobbitmon' too
Ulric
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My preference is to call it "Hobbitmon". Small change that should be legally satisfying and yet subtle to keep everyone on track. Not to mention you don't have to move the project on SF.
I did find this laughable. It seems the enterprise and team of lawyers are too lazy to read the front page.
"...you may have chosen to name your project "Hobbit" or "Hobbit Monitor" out of a deep appreciation for the Tolkien Works."
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Henrik Stoerner <henrik at hswn.dk> wrote:
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
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How about find a name so obscure in the Silmarillion that even the lawyers couldn't find it.
Seriously though, how about hobbiton.
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:41 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
My preference is to call it "Hobbitmon". Small change that should be legally satisfying and yet subtle to keep everyone on track. Not to mention you don't have to move the project on SF.
I did find this laughable. It seems the enterprise and team of lawyers are too lazy to read the front page.
"...you may have chosen to name your project "Hobbit" or "Hobbit Monitor" out of a deep appreciation for the Tolkien Works."
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Henrik Stoerner <henrik at hswn.dk> wrote:
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
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Why don't you rename it "Gandalf"?
-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:30 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
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I almost suggested that myself!
Jim Smith
-----Original Message----- From: Hubbard, Greg L [mailto:greg.hubbard at eds.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:57 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
Why don't you rename it "Gandalf"?
-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:30 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
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How about Palantir ?
/Thomas Kern /301-903-2211 (O) /301-905-6427 (M)
-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:30 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
...snipped...
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
...snipped...
I like it...it's exactly what the Palantir were for...
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Eggleston [mailto:mikeegg1 at mac.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:34 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Kern, Thomas might have said:
How about Palantir ?
No, 'precious'!
Mike
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Hmm, it's something already there
http://www.fastpath.it/products/palantir/
martin
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Galen Johnson wrote:
I like it...it's exactly what the Palantir were for...
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Eggleston [mailto:mikeegg1 at mac.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:34 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Kern, Thomas might have said:
How about Palantir ?
No, 'precious'!
Mike
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Awwww...maaaaannnn...
-----Original Message----- From: Martin Flemming [mailto:martin.flemming at desy.de] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:56 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
Hmm, it's something already there
http://www.fastpath.it/products/palantir/
martin
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Galen Johnson wrote:
I like it...it's exactly what the Palantir were for...
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: Mike Eggleston [mailto:mikeegg1 at mac.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:34 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Kern, Thomas might have said:
How about Palantir ?
No, 'precious'!
Mike
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.... maybe "Hobbitse" like Gollum has said ...
... thousand of little Hobbitse ... :-)cheers, martin
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Henrik Stoerner wrote:
Hi everyone,
some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project.
Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce.
So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else.
The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/
My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ...
But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions.
Regards, Henrik
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I thought the exact same thing when I first read that. I wasn't going to say anything first to condemn myself, though =)
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:41 PM, J Sloan <joe at tmsusa.com> wrote:
Martin Flemming wrote:
.... maybe "Hobbitse" like Gollum has said ...
... thousand of little Hobbitse ... :-)That sounds too much like goatse, there could be legal problems...
Joe
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Yep, was only a fast thought ... :-)
"H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" and hobbitmon are already well names !
martin
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Josh Luthman wrote:
I thought the exact same thing when I first read that. I wasn't going to say anything first to condemn myself, though =)
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On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 2:41 PM, J Sloan <joe at tmsusa.com> wrote:
Martin Flemming wrote:
.... maybe "Hobbitse" like Gollum has said ...
... thousand of little Hobbitse ... :-)That sounds too much like goatse, there could be legal problems...
Joe
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Gruss
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I would suggest the new name should related the nature of system monitoring more. Make it easier to be understand the function of the software by just reading its name.
This is actually a good chance to make the name right.
T.J. Yang
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Okay, how about "Henrik's Most Excellent Server and Application and Service Monitoring System with Many Contributions from the Shirefolk".
Or "Henrik's Outstanding Big Brother Improvement Technologies" -- ( H. O. B. B. I. T. )
Or ... (I had better stop here!)
GLH
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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:27 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
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I would suggest the new name should related the nature of systemmonitoring more. Make it easier to be understand the function of the software by just reading its name.
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I just cannot figure how to set up alerts.
Maybe I can save you lots of reading. All I am trying to do at this time I am just looking to set up basic paging to an email (list) address.
I will want to break it down to subpages for fabric servers, DB servers, web servers and weblogic server.
But. here is what I am working with now. For now I have, or so I thought, narrowed it down to the most basic of configuration and still cannot get it to work.
hobbit-alerts.cfg (added to the bottom of the file).
HOST=*
MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=yellow
MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=cONN color=red
MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=purpleWhen I run bbcmd with just --test I get the following:
[root at tstfabric121 etc]# ../bin/bbcmd hobbitd_alert --test tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com procs
2008-07-31 16:48:03 Using default environment file /usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 send_alert tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs state Paging
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Matching host:service:page 'tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs:' against rule line 125
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 *** Match with 'HOST=*' ***
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Matching host:service:page 'tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs:' against rule line 126
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=yellow' (service not in include list)
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Matching host:service:page 'tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs:' against rule line 127
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=cONN color=red' (service not in include list)
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Matching host:service:page 'tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs:' against rule line 128
00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=purple' (service not in include list)
With --debug too I get this:
[root at tstfabric121 etc]# ../bin/bbcmd hobbitd_alert --test --debug tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com procs
2008-07-31 16:48:43 Using default environment file /usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg
2008-07-31 16:48:43 Host not found in bb-hosts - assuming it is on the top page
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 send_alert --debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com state Paging
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Matching host:service:page '--debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:' against rule line 125
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 *** Match with 'HOST=*' ***
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Matching host:service:page '--debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:' against rule line 126
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=yellow' (service not in include list)
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Matching host:service:page '--debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:' against rule line 127
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=cONN color=red' (service not in include list)
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Matching host:service:page '--debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:' against rule line 128
00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=purple' (service not in include list)
Now the host, tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com, is in the bb-host file. And, in fact, is the hobbit server.
Also, so long as I am burning bandwidth, I am not understanding how the page/subpage work into this? I do have subpage's set up in my bb-hosts file.
Thanks.
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