From: "Galen Johnson" <Galen.Johnson at sas.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:23 AM To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)
I started out on sourceforge...it didn't work out too well.
My idea SCM site to hose hobbit is Trac. but I am willing to go with lowest common denominator (sourceforge ;).
I am documenting my learning hobbit and svn here
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Hobbit/Developer_Guide#S...
tj
-----Original Message----- From: T.J. Yang [mailto:tj_yang at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 11:01 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)
From: "Galen Johnson" <Galen.Johnson at sas.com> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:52 AM To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> Subject: RE: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)
I'm not saying they weren't very nice...I agree it could have been handled in a much less friendly manner...lawyers never cease to amuse me.
Of course, when we pick a new name, I'm going to have to figure out a different name for The Shire to go with it...maybe I'll call it "Live Dog" or "Undead Hamster" or "Flushed Fish"... :-D
Since Henrik is going to use sourceforge more and open up the acess,
How about use sourceforge.net to host hobbit add-ons(The Shire) ?
Lets pool in limited hobbit resources together.
tj
=G=
-----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:32 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Don't make the pie higher! (was: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen)
In <36304.192.168.0.1.1217859745.squirrel at epperson.homelinux.net> "Hobbit User in Richmond" <hobbit at epperson.homelinux.net> writes:
On Mon, August 4, 2008 09:00, Galen Johnson wrote:
After reading the letters, it looked to me that as soon as they found out they couldn't pin anyone down to get a slice of the ephemeral pie, they decided that the name should be changed.
Well, as a PHB who's also a Linux lead, the way I read the letters is that as soon as they found out they couldn't pin anyone down to commit to not selling slices of their client's pie and not giving any more of it away than was already the case, they wanted a name change. I thought the attitude was quite refreshing after seeing decades worth of threatening cease-and-desist letters.
I agree. I think they have been treated me nicely; they could have just sent me a "stop-doing-this-or-we'll-sue-you-now" letter. They didn't, and in fact they have been generous to suggest a couple of possible name changes that I could do which would keep them happy.
Add to this that they actually knew what I was talking about, when I told them that Hobbit is an Open Source product, so there is no money involved.
They have a trademark to defend, and one of the rules of that game is that they MUST react when they become aware of possible violations of their trademark; if they don't, then they can forfeit their ownership of the trademark. So they have to do something, and I think they handled this nicely.
Sure - having to rename everythin IS annoying, but I should have thought about that when I first picked the name.
Regards, Henrik
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