Nobody is watching the repository, including me
Hello everyone,
Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymon
Watch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know.
Cheers,
Bruno
I signed up! Also on that dialog...
"[X] Discussions Discussions are not enabled for this repository"
Should we enable discussions? I know that opens a separate front of communication and reports, however I understand people are selective about their inboxes, and discussions will likely connect with people not on the list or Delta chat to also get involved.
~ spiderr
On Sep 18, 2026, at 8:50 AM, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymonWatch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know.
Cheers,
Bruno
Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com
I second the proposal to enable Github discussions.
I actually think that the "dev" discussions on this mailing list are not interesting to most subscribers, who only subscribed so they can ask for help, or learn from others' problems and solutions. Such users are not as interested in the behind-the-scenes coding and meta-coding discussions.
There's a separate xymon-dev mailing list that nobody seems to have used since January last year, but would probably have been where these developer discussions took place in the past. But mailing lists can be problematic, or sometimes just aren't the best fit for a purpose. Github discussions may better fill the need.
Cheers Jeremy
On Fri, 18 Sept 2026 at 23:05, spiderr via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote:
I signed up! Also on that dialog...
"[X] Discussions
Discussions are not enabled for this repository"Should we enable discussions? I know that opens a separate front of communication and reports, however I understand people are selective about their inboxes, and discussions will likely connect with people not on the list or Delta chat to also get involved.
~ spiderr
On Sep 18, 2026, at 8:50 AM, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymonWatch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know.
Cheers,
Bruno
Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com
Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com
Hi Jeremy, Spiderr,
Discussions are now open.
Anyone who wants to participate needs to have a GitHub account.
Bruno
Le 20.09.2026 à 02:29, Jeremy Laidman via Xymon a écrit :
I second the proposal to enable Github discussions.
I actually think that the "dev" discussions on this mailing list are not interesting to most subscribers, who only subscribed so they can ask for help, or learn from others' problems and solutions. Such users are not as interested in the behind-the-scenes coding and meta-coding discussions.
There's a separate xymon-dev mailing list that nobody seems to have used since January last year, but would probably have been where these developer discussions took place in the past. But mailing lists can be problematic, or sometimes just aren't the best fit for a purpose. Github discussions may better fill the need.
Cheers Jeremy
On Fri, 18 Sept 2026 at 23:05, spiderr via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote:
I signed up! Also on that dialog... "[X] Discussions Discussions are not enabled for this repository" Should we enable discussions? I know that opens a separate front of communication and reports, however I understand people are selective about their inboxes, and discussions will likely connect with people not on the list or Delta chat to also get involved. ~ spiderrOn Sep 18, 2026, at 8:50 AM, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote: Hello everyone, Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymon Watch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know. Cheers, Bruno _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com_______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com
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Hi Bruno!
On Fri, 18 Sep 2026, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon wrote:
Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymon
Watch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know.
I had this enabled at the beginning but disabled it, when your AI started acting every minute, since my mailbox was flooded.
I didn't find an option to only watch for newly created issues or PRs (in contrast to watching every communication/update/push). So now I have to manually look for new PRs/issues and subscribe those, that I want to follow.
Do you know a better (custom) watch setup? If I subscribe on "issues" or "pull requests", I get a mail for every update in all issues/PRs and this are that many if the AI is actively working, that I delete the mails unread, which isn't better than not subscribing... Maybe I should try to subscribe issues again...
Greetings Roland
I just checked the box to get pull request notifications.
A couple of days ago I got email from GitHub saying I'd been removed from the "Xymon Monitoring" organization. Is that the same thing? Should I be worried?
Ralph Mitchell
On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 10:22 AM Roland Rosenfeld via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote:
Hi Bruno!
On Fri, 18 Sep 2026, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon wrote:
Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymonWatch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know.
I had this enabled at the beginning but disabled it, when your AI started acting every minute, since my mailbox was flooded.
I didn't find an option to only watch for newly created issues or PRs (in contrast to watching every communication/update/push). So now I have to manually look for new PRs/issues and subscribe those, that I want to follow.
Do you know a better (custom) watch setup? If I subscribe on "issues" or "pull requests", I get a mail for every update in all issues/PRs and this are that many if the AI is actively working, that I delete the mails unread, which isn't better than not subscribing... Maybe I should try to subscribe issues again...
Greetings Roland
Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com
H Ralph,
No and yes — don't worry, you are very much appreciated! But yes, I removed you by mistake 😳. And several other members can reinvite you in case I'm unavailable.
You should have received a new invite now. (let me know, or simply just accept!)
The problem was that your account name made me think it was an unused account that I didn't need to remember. I was cleaning up Kris's account, saw this one as well, and thought it was unused, so I removed it.
To prevent this from happening again, I've started documenting these accounts in a private repo.
Bruno
Le 18.09.2026 à 19:18, Ralph M a écrit :
I just checked the box to get pull request notifications.
A couple of days ago I got email from GitHub saying I'd been removed from the "Xymon Monitoring" organization. Is that the same thing? Should I be worried?
Ralph Mitchell
On Fri, Sep 18, 2026 at 10:22 AM Roland Rosenfeld via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote:
Hi Bruno! On Fri, 18 Sep 2026, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon wrote: > Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and > notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, > and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So > when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them > to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of > > https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymon > > Watch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository > is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know. I had this enabled at the beginning but disabled it, when your AI started acting every minute, since my mailbox was flooded. I didn't find an option to only watch for newly created issues or PRs (in contrast to watching every communication/update/push). So now I have to manually look for new PRs/issues and subscribe those, that I want to follow. Do you know a better (custom) watch setup? If I subscribe on "issues" or "pull requests", I get a mail for every update in all issues/PRs and this are that many if the AI is actively working, that I delete the mails unread, which isn't better than not subscribing... Maybe I should try to subscribe issues again... Greetings Roland _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com
Hi Roland,
Sorry for the flood. I think there is a legitimate need to be able to follow what changes in a repository.
From what I understand from GitHub, some notification use cases can be covered with subscriptions, but there isn't much fine-grained control. It seems possible to use Actions workflows to provide something similar with more control.
User behavior could also be constrained to some extent, but not too strictly, so we can keep supporting evolving tools, AI-assisted development, and novice contributors. For now, we have the Xymon wiki repository, which explains how to set up Git and related tools, and a CONTRIBUTING.md in each repository:
Bruno
Le 18.09.2026 à 16:22, Roland Rosenfeld a écrit :
Hi Bruno!
On Fri, 18 Sep 2026, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon wrote:
Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymonWatch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know. I had this enabled at the beginning but disabled it, when your AI started acting every minute, since my mailbox was flooded.
I didn't find an option to only watch for newly created issues or PRs (in contrast to watching every communication/update/push). So now I have to manually look for new PRs/issues and subscribe those, that I want to follow.
Do you know a better (custom) watch setup? If I subscribe on "issues" or "pull requests", I get a mail for every update in all issues/PRs and this are that many if the AI is actively working, that I delete the mails unread, which isn't better than not subscribing... Maybe I should try to subscribe issues again...
Greetings Roland
No worries! I don't use Git for anything. I created that userid years ago because something I was looking at required it.
Ralph Mitchell
On Sat, Sep 19, 2026 at 9:35 AM Bruno Manzoni via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote:
Hi Roland,
Sorry for the flood. I think there is a legitimate need to be able to follow what changes in a repository.
From what I understand from GitHub, some notification use cases can be covered with subscriptions, but there isn't much fine-grained control. It seems possible to use Actions workflows to provide something similar with more control.
User behavior could also be constrained to some extent, but not too strictly, so we can keep supporting evolving tools, AI-assisted development, and novice contributors. For now, we have the Xymon wiki repository, which explains how to set up Git and related tools, and a CONTRIBUTING.md in each repository:
Bruno
Le 18.09.2026 à 16:22, Roland Rosenfeld a écrit :
Hi Bruno!
On Fri, 18 Sep 2026, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon wrote:
Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of
https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymonWatch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know.
I had this enabled at the beginning but disabled it, when your AI started acting every minute, since my mailbox was flooded.
I didn't find an option to only watch for newly created issues or PRs (in contrast to watching every communication/update/push). So now I have to manually look for new PRs/issues and subscribe those, that I want to follow.
Do you know a better (custom) watch setup? If I subscribe on "issues" or "pull requests", I get a mail for every update in all issues/PRs and this are that many if the AI is actively working, that I delete the mails unread, which isn't better than not subscribing... Maybe I should try to subscribe issues again...
Greetings Roland
Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com
Hi Ralph,
Git itself is the version-control tool, with synchronization functionality. GitHub uses Git, but you can also use Git independently or with other hosting platforms that support it.
The GitHub account and being part of the organization are, to me, quite important. I don't really see another simple way to structure the people around the project. Being part of the organization lets us know that you are one of the people involved in and taking care of the project. But you don't need to use Git.
About Git, if you ever want to learn more about it:
One nice thing is that LLMs know Git very well. You can basically ask an LLM to pull or push changes, and even ask it to handle many Git administrative tasks for you.
In our wiki, there is a Git/GitHub setup guide explaining how to create your own working environment. You can experiment independently there and, if you want, later propose your changes to the Xymon repository.
I think Git as a version-control tool is almost a must-have if you also want to experiment with LLMs. An LLM will often propose changes that seem good initially, but you can easily end up going in the wrong direction. Git keeps the history of all versions of your work locally. It can be used for code, but also for documentation and other files.
So if you suddenly realize that an LLM has messed up your document or code, Git makes it easy to go back and recover a known good version.
And your involvement is very valuable to us.
Cheers, Bruno
Le 19.09.2026 à 16:02, Ralph M a écrit :
No worries! I don't use Git for anything. I created that userid years ago because something I was looking at required it.
Ralph Mitchell
On Sat, Sep 19, 2026 at 9:35 AM Bruno Manzoni via Xymon <xymon@xymon.com> wrote:
Hi Roland, Sorry for the flood. I think there is a legitimate need to be able to follow what changes in a repository. From what I understand from GitHub, some notification use cases can be covered with subscriptions, but there isn't much fine-grained control. It seems possible to use Actions workflows to provide something similar with more control. User behavior could also be constrained to some extent, but not too strictly, so we can keep supporting evolving tools, AI-assisted development, and novice contributors. For now, we have the Xymon wiki repository, which explains how to set up Git and related tools, and a CONTRIBUTING.md in each repository: Bruno Le 18.09.2026 à 16:22, Roland Rosenfeld a écrit :Hi Bruno! On Fri, 18 Sep 2026, Bruno Manzoni via Xymon wrote:Being a collaborator notifies you of nothing: on GitHub, rights and notifications are unrelated. What subscribes you is the Watch button, and on xymon-monitoring/xymon nobody was using it, myself included. So when Scot opened #521, #522 and #523 last week, GitHub announced them to no one. Three clicks fix that, at the top right of https://github.com/xymon-monitoring/xymon Watch -> Custom -> Pull requests. No membership needed, the repository is public. And if you want to join the organisation, just let us know.I had this enabled at the beginning but disabled it, when your AI started acting every minute, since my mailbox was flooded. I didn't find an option to only watch for newly created issues or PRs (in contrast to watching every communication/update/push). So now I have to manually look for new PRs/issues and subscribe those, that I want to follow. Do you know a better (custom) watch setup? If I subscribe on "issues" or "pull requests", I get a mail for every update in all issues/PRs and this are that many if the AI is actively working, that I delete the mails unread, which isn't better than not subscribing... Maybe I should try to subscribe issues again... Greetings Roland_______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list -- xymon@xymon.com To unsubscribe send an email to xymon-leave@xymon.com
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Bruno Manzoni
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Jeremy Laidman
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Ralph M
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Roland Rosenfeld
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spiderr