Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts). I do know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there? From what little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is this true? What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display. So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers. This looks to be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.

This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0"

BBDISPLAYS="127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"

The BBLOCATION is important to the setup. I'll point out why in a moment. Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.

This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"

Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls. This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include. I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces. I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message. Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.

*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers. The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3> 1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3> 2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN. These configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0" BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're completely blank! Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP" # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong. Thanks in advance!

Josh

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

On the main box there is only one Ghost report of which has been there a while, a client machine I renamed a while back.

page HIDM Holiday Inn group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3> 10.59.1.18 room243.hello.com # testip noconn Net:hidmpoll

group-compress <H3><I>HIHELO Hardware</I></H3> 10.59.1.234 printstation.hihello.com # testip noconn Net:hidmpoll

Now on the box at the hotel it looks identical with the exception of the "page" line.

Josh

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:

Do you have the same bb-hosts on each server? You might check the ghosts report.

---

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 12:04 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts). I do know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there? From what little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is this true? What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

...

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display. So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers. This looks to be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.

This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"

The BBLOCATION is important to the setup. I'll point out why in a moment. Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.

This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"

Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls. This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include. I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces. I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message. Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.

*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers. The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3> 1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3> 2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN. These configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0" BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're completely blank! Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP" # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong. Thanks in advance!

Josh

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are made. You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.

Do you have BBLOCATION set? You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo

Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both? The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via bb-hosts. Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from one server to the other? Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display log?

Tod Hansmann

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts). I do know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there? From what little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is this true? What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display. So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers. This looks to be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.

This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 <http://127.0.0.1> ip.of.main.display"

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"

The BBLOCATION is important to the setup. I'll point out why in a moment. Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.

This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"

Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls. This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include. I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces. I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message. Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.

Tod Hansmann

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers. The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3> 1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3> 2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN. These configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0> " BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're completely blank! Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP" # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong. Thanks in advance!

Josh

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

I beat on this a while Friday and got nowhere - and then I decided I was trying to fix the wrong spot.

Since AIX seems to be the only OS that includes decimal fractions in the vmstat output, I fixed the hobbitclient-aix.sh script. The attached patch makes two changes.

1. reduce the vmstat count to 1; AIX 5.3 (and 5.2, I think) no longer dump an immediate overview and then an accumulation for the time specified. Vmstat provides the two values requested at the time delay specified, so vmstat 300 2 gives two five-minute accumulations for a total of ten minutes of run time.

2. use sed to copy the vmstat temporary output to the final output, stripping all periods out as it goes.

The graph definitions need to be updated to do a divide by 10 for cpu_ec and a divide by 100 for cpu_pc to offset the default multiplication that occurs by stripping the decimal.

(I *think* I got the syntax correct for making the patch - never done it before).

Tom Kauffman

NIBCO, Inc

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Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for whatever is easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.

I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote host. The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or hosts need to be changed, they're only changed on this one server.

This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what the tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do. I would imagine it is simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include bblocation in the hobbitserver.cfg.

Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?

Josh

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:

Ah. You have a couple of options.

a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local server as well as the main server. This means that your customer clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.

b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer location send up a summary to your main server. You will get a single dot that shows the overall status of that customer. The dot is linked to the Hobbit page on the remote server. This way you don't have to keep updating your central server as hosts come and go at remote locations.

And you can mix and match these methods.

GLH

---

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't going to change and the hosts are not identical.

Let me tell you how the overall picture looks. We have a main Hobbit server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and things. Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN. The first step was to get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access points. Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.

The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their guest/lobby PCs. Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but another page that includes the hotel's hosts.

Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

...

We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are made. You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.

Do you have BBLOCATION set? You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo

Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both? The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via bb-hosts. Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from one server to the other? Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display log?

*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts). I do know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there? From what little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is this true? What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display. So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers. This looks to be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.

This is the testers:

BBDISP="0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"

The BBLOCATION is important to the setup. I'll point out why in a moment. Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.

This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"

Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls. This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include. I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces. I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message. Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.

*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers. The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3> 1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3> 2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN. These configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0" BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're completely blank! Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP" # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong. Thanks in advance!

Josh

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

If I understand this correctly, on the main Hobbit server I would add:

Summary Vegas.All pub.lic.i.p http://vegas.foo.com/hobbit/

Correct?

What would be an alternative solution should I find myself not able to access the web pages from outside the hotel network?

Thanks a lot for your help Greg - slowly but surely, I'm getting it =)

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:

look in the docs for "summary"

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*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for whatever is easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.

I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote host. The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or hosts need to be changed, they're only changed on this one server.

This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what the tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do. I would imagine it is simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include bblocation in the hobbitserver.cfg.

Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?

Josh

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L < greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:

...

Ah. You have a couple of options.

a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local server as well as the main server. This means that your customer clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.

b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer location send up a summary to your main server. You will get a single dot that shows the overall status of that customer. The dot is linked to the Hobbit page on the remote server. This way you don't have to keep updating your central server as hosts come and go at remote locations.

And you can mix and match these methods.

GLH

---

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't going to change and the hosts are not identical.

Let me tell you how the overall picture looks. We have a main Hobbit server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and things. Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN. The first step was to get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access points. Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.

The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their guest/lobby PCs. Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but another page that includes the hotel's hosts.

Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

...

We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are made. You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.

Do you have BBLOCATION set? You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo

Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both? The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via bb-hosts. Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from one server to the other? Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display log?

*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent: *Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts). I do know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there? From what little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is this true? What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display. So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers. This looks to be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.

This is the testers:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"

The BBLOCATION is important to the setup. I'll point out why in a moment. Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.

This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"

Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls. This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include. I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces. I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message. Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.

*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent: *Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers. The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3> 1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3> 2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN. These configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0" BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're completely blank! Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP" # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong. Thanks in advance!

Josh

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I just tried this:

Going to the main hobbit server and adding the summary line: summary holidayinn.All holidayinn.ip.1.2 http://holidayinn/hobbit/

When I did this the main server contacted the hotel server and the at the bottom of bb.html on the hotel server had this summary. Oops?

Next I put that same config with the reverse IP on the hotel server. This worked and voids my last question question above.

Thank you all for your help! Thanks a ton!

Josh

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:

That sounds about right. I don't know of any alternative if you can't drill into the remote server. If it is not accessible, then you are probably hosed in many ways.

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*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:57 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

If I understand this correctly, on the main Hobbit server I would add:

Summary Vegas.All pub.lic.i.p http://vegas.foo.com/hobbit/

Correct?

What would be an alternative solution should I find myself not able to access the web pages from outside the hotel network?

Thanks a lot for your help Greg - slowly but surely, I'm getting it =)

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:

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look in the docs for "summary"

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*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like to go for whatever is easiest to maintain, so option b would be my preference.

I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has an SSLUG remote host. The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it so that if IPs or hosts need to be changed, they're only changed on this one server.

This would be perfect for my situation, though I don't know what the tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do. I would imagine it is simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though it may include bblocation in the hobbitserver.cfg.

Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site setup like that?

Josh

On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L < greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote:

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Ah. You have a couple of options.

a) configure each client (at a customer location) to send to the local server as well as the main server. This means that your customer clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your main server, as well as in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer location.

b) (might work) -- you can have the Hobbit server at the customer location send up a summary to your main server. You will get a single dot that shows the overall status of that customer. The dot is linked to the Hobbit page on the remote server. This way you don't have to keep updating your central server as hosts come and go at remote locations.

And you can mix and match these methods.

GLH

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*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent:* Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

I can't scp the entire host list, nor would I need to - it isn't going to change and the hosts are not identical.

Let me tell you how the overall picture looks. We have a main Hobbit server that monitors our backbone, customers' home routers, WWW servers and things. Now we're adding a Hobbit at a hotel's LAN. The first step was to get Hobbit running there on its own little world and ping the access points. Now the next step, where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information that is sent from bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.

The hotel's list of hosts is limited - their APs and a couple of their guest/lobby PCs. Ours needs to have the things it has currently, but another page that includes the hotel's hosts.

Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining my own situations =(

Josh

On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann <thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

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We just scp the hostlist from one to the others anytime changes are made. You could probably do this in a cron-job as well.

Do you have BBLOCATION set? You shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo

Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts file from both? The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it doesn't know about via bb-hosts. Have you verified that hobbit is getting the status messages from one server to the other? Lastly, I'm picking at straws here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display log?

*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent: *Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

Tod,

I've configured it that way and neither of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts). I do know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with nmap).

Any other ideas out there? From what little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra step, it doesn't seem required - is this true? What is the simplest way of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays?

Josh

On 11/5/07, *Tod Hansmann* < thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:

So, we have two servers doing tests, and they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display. So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers. This looks to be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of this info in context.

This is the testers:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 "

BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1 ip.of.main.display"

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="poller1"

The BBLOCATION is important to the setup. I'll point out why in a moment. Also, ip.of.main.display is the same in both configs here.

This is the main display:

BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

BBDISPLAYS=""

------ more stuff -------

BBLOCATION="display"

Now in the bb-hosts file, I have Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all the hosts poller2 polls. This may not be useful in the setup you're trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include. I think your original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and no spaces. I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it to everything in that list when it has a status message. Also note that port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.

Way more info than you probably need, but I do hope some of it helps.

*Tod Hansmann*

Network Engineer

<http://www.directpointe.com/>

*From:* Josh Luthman [mailto: josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] *Sent: *Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58 PM *To:* hobbit at hswn.dk *Subject:* [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

What I am trying to do is have two BBDisplay servers. The first one being our main one - monitors our network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.

I have setup this in bb-hosts on the main one:

page HIXX Holiday Inn X X group-compress <H3><I>Access Points</I></H3> 1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn

group-compress <H3><I>HIDM Hardware</I></H3> 2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn

Reason for the noconn is that these are all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN. These configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception of noconn, of course =)

I then went into the customer's server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:

BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0" BBDISPLAYS=" 10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"

I have also tried it without quotes

When I set this neither BBDisplay has anything on the www pages, they're completely blank! Once I switch it to

BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP" # IP of a single hobbit/bbd server BBDISPLAYS=""

It works perfectly fine on the customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)

Please let me know where I went wrong. Thanks in advance!

Josh

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer

-- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer