[hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

5 Nov 2007

      That sounds about right.  I don't know of any alternative if you can't
drill into the remote server.  If it is not accessible, then you are
probably hosed in many ways.

From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] 
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:57 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one collaboration

If I understand this correctly, on the main Hobbit server I
would add:
Summary Vegas.All pub.lic.i.p http://vegas.foo.com/hobbit/ 

Correct?

What would be an alternative solution should I find myself not
able to access the web pages from outside the hotel network?
Thanks a lot for your help Greg - slowly but surely, I'm getting
it =)
On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L &lt;greg.hubbard at eds.com> wrote: 

	look in the docs for "summary"

		From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 2:36 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one
collaboration
		Honestly either one would work for me - I'd like
to go for whatever is easiest to maintain, so option b would be my
preference.
I see on the demo site that at the bottom it has
an SSLUG remote host.  The links go to the remote bbdisplay, making it
so that if IPs or hosts need to be changed, they're only changed on this
one server.
This would be perfect for my situation, though I
don't know what the tyge or www tests are or what changed I need to do.
I would imagine it is simply adding a couple of lines in bb-hosts though
it may include bblocation in the hobbitserver.cfg.
Does anyone know how Henrik got his demo site
setup like that?
Josh
On 11/5/07, Hubbard, Greg L <
greg.hubbard at eds.com <mailto:greg.hubbard at eds.com> > wrote:
			Ah.  You have a couple of options.

			a) configure each client (at a customer
location) to send to the local server as well as the main server.  This
means that your customer clients must all appear in the bb-hosts in your
main server, as well as in the bb-hosts for the server at the customer
location.
b) (might work) -- you can have the
Hobbit server at the customer location send up a summary to your main
server.  You will get a single dot that shows the overall status of that
customer.  The dot is linked to the Hobbit page on the remote server.
This way you don't have to keep updating your central server as hosts
come and go at remote locations.
And you can mix and match these methods.
GLH

			From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 1:22 PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays,
one collaboration
			I can't scp the entire host list, nor
would I need to - it isn't going to change and the hosts are not
identical.
Let me tell you how the overall picture
looks.  We have a main Hobbit server that monitors our backbone,
customers' home routers, WWW servers and things.  Now we're adding a
Hobbit at a hotel's LAN.  The first step was to get Hobbit running there
on its own little world and ping the access points.  Now the next step,
where I'm stuck, is to duplicate the information that is sent from
bbtest to the bbdisplay on our company Hobbit.
The hotel's list of hosts is limited -
their APs and a couple of their guest/lobby PCs.  Ours needs to have the
things it has currently, but another page that includes the hotel's
hosts.
Sorry, I know I'm terrible at explaining
my own situations =(
Josh
On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann
<thansmann at directpointe.com> wrote:
			We just scp the hostlist from one to the
others anytime changes are made.  You could probably do this in a
cron-job as well.
			Do you have BBLOCATION set?  You
shouldn't if you're not using Net:foo
			Do the displays have the entire bb-hosts
file from both?  The bb-gen won't generate pages for any of the hosts it
doesn't know about via bb-hosts.  Have you verified that hobbit is
getting the status messages from one server to the other?  Lastly, I'm
picking at straws here, but do you have any errors in the bb-display
log?
			Tod Hansmann

			Network Engineer

			 &lt;http://www.directpointe.com/>   

			From: Josh Luthman
[mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 11:04 AM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: Re: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays,
one collaboration
			Tod,

			I've configured it that way and neither
of the www pages have any information (concerning these hosts).  I do
know that 1984 is "connectable" from the new Hobbit server (tested with
nmap).
Any other ideas out there?  From what
little I know about this it seems like this Net option is just an extra
step, it doesn't seem required - is this true?  What is the simplest way
of getting the list of hosts on both bbdisplays?
Josh
			On 11/5/07, Tod Hansmann &lt;
thansmann at directpointe.com <mailto:thansmann at directpointe.com> > wrote:
			So, we have two servers doing tests, and
they display their own tests, and also send alerts to the main display.
So the main display is an aggregate of both test servers.  This looks to
be similar to what you're doing, so I hope that helps put the rest of
this info in context.
			This is the testers:

			BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 &lt;http://0.0.0.0> "

			BBDISPLAYS=" 127.0.0.1
<http://127.0.0.1>  ip.of.main.display"
			   ------ more stuff -------

			BBLOCATION="poller1"

			The BBLOCATION is important to the
setup.  I'll point out why in a moment.  Also, ip.of.main.display is the
same in both configs here.
			This is the main display:

			BBSERVERIP="ip.of.main.display"

			BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"

			BBDISPLAYS=""

			   ------ more stuff -------

			BBLOCATION="display"

			Now in the bb-hosts file, I have
Net:poller1 with all the hosts poller1 polls, and Net:poller2 with all
the hosts poller2 polls.  This may not be useful in the setup you're
trying to get working, but it can't hurt to include.  I think your
original config is the one to go with, but I might go with 127.0.0.1 and
no spaces.  I'm pretty sure the BBDISPLAYS just has bbtest-net send it
to everything in that list when it has a status message.  Also note that
port 1984 will have to be opened appropriately on any firewalls.
			Way more info than you probably need,
but I do hope some of it helps.
			Tod Hansmann

			Network Engineer

			 &lt;http://www.directpointe.com/>   

			From: Josh Luthman [mailto:
josh at imaginenetworksllc.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:58
PM
To: hobbit at hswn.dk
Subject: [hobbit] Two BBDisplays, one
collaboration
			What I am trying to do is have two
BBDisplay servers.  The first one being our main one - monitors our
network equipment and things - and a second one that lives on the
customer's network and pings APs, Switches, etc.
I have setup this in bb-hosts on the
main one:
page HIXX Holiday Inn X X
group-compress <H3><I>Access
Points</I></H3>
1.2.3.4 host.com # noconn
group-compress <H3><I>HIDM
Hardware</I></H3>
2.3.4.5 host2.com # noconn
Reason for the noconn is that these are
all private IPs, accessible only by the customer's LAN.  These
configuration match those of the customer's bb-hosts (with the exception
of noconn, of course =)
I then went into the customer's
server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg and changed it as such:
BBDISP=" 0.0.0.0 <http://0.0.0.0> "
BBDISPLAYS="
10.59.1.119,MAINSERVERPUBLIC"
I have also tried it without quotes
When I set this neither BBDisplay has
anything on the www pages, they're completely blank!  Once I switch it
to
BBDISP="$BBSERVERIP"            # IP of
a single hobbit/bbd server
BBDISPLAYS=""
It works perfectly fine on the
customer's server, but the main one is display blank (obviously =)
Please let me know where I went wrong.
Thanks in advance!
Josh
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			Direct: 937-552-2343
			1100 Wayne St
			Suite 1337
			Troy, OH 45373

			Those who don't understand UNIX are
condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
			-- 
			Josh Luthman
			Office: 937-552-2340
			Direct: 937-552-2343
			1100 Wayne St
			Suite 1337
			Troy, OH 45373

			Those who don't understand UNIX are
condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
		-- 
		Josh Luthman
		Office: 937-552-2340
		Direct: 937-552-2343
		1100 Wayne St
		Suite 1337
		Troy, OH 45373

		Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to
reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer
-- 
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it,
poorly.
--- Henry Spencer

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