Hi All
Any pointers where I can have a look at the Xymon protocol? I can use wireshark to try and trace it but I am a little lazy this morning.
Regards Neil
What are you trying to figure out?
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Hi All
Any pointers where I can have a look at the Xymon protocol? I can use wireshark to try and trace it but I am a little lazy this morning.
Regards Neil
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More curiosity than anything else. I like tinkering and would just like to know how does BBwin for example communicates with the server. Like I said nothing major just more of a information gathering exercise. I used to write real time systems for stock trading applications and this is I guess a sort of pet hobby....
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:16 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
What are you trying to figure out?
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Hi All
Any pointers where I can have a look at the Xymon protocol? I can use wireshark to try and trace it but I am a little lazy this morning.
Regards Neil
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Xymon is open source and a packet capture should be easy - no encryption.
I don't think anyone can share anything more...
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
More curiosity than anything else. I like tinkering and would just like to know how does BBwin for example communicates with the server. Like I said nothing major just more of a information gathering exercise. I used to write real time systems for stock trading applications and this is I guess a sort of pet hobby....
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:16 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
What are you trying to figure out?
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Hi All
Any pointers where I can have a look at the Xymon protocol? I can use wireshark to try and trace it but I am a little lazy this morning.
Regards Neil
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I agree. Just checking if there is not some sort of document out there which contains the specification. Busy using wireshark now and checking it out.
Cheers Neil
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:35 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
Xymon is open source and a packet capture should be easy - no encryption.
I don't think anyone can share anything more...
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
More curiosity than anything else. I like tinkering and would just like to know how does BBwin for example communicates with the server. Like I said nothing major just more of a information gathering exercise. I used to write real time systems for stock trading applications and this is I guess a sort of pet hobby....
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:16 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
What are you trying to figure out?
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Hi All
Any pointers where I can have a look at the Xymon protocol? I can use wireshark to try and trace it but I am a little lazy this morning.
Regards Neil
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Ok my mistake from what I can see this protocol is very simplistic. Nothing major. Sorry to bug you lot.
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:35 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
Xymon is open source and a packet capture should be easy - no encryption.
I don't think anyone can share anything more...
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
More curiosity than anything else. I like tinkering and would just like to know how does BBwin for example communicates with the server. Like I said nothing major just more of a information gathering exercise. I used to write real time systems for stock trading applications and this is I guess a sort of pet hobby....
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:16 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
What are you trying to figure out?
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Hi All
Any pointers where I can have a look at the Xymon protocol? I can use wireshark to try and trace it but I am a little lazy this morning.
Regards Neil
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Neil
It is in new-daemon.txt. URL is http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/branches/4.2.3/hobbitd...
tj
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Ok my mistake from what I can see this protocol is very simplistic. Nothing major. Sorry to bug you lot.
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:35 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
Xymon is open source and a packet capture should be easy - no encryption.
I don't think anyone can share anything more...
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
More curiosity than anything else. I like tinkering and would just like to know how does BBwin for example communicates with the server. Like I said nothing major just more of a information gathering exercise. I used to write real time systems for stock trading applications and this is I guess a sort of pet hobby....
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:16 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
What are you trying to figure out?
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Hi All
Any pointers where I can have a look at the Xymon protocol? I can use wireshark to try and trace it but I am a little lazy this morning.
Regards Neil
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Also I have a how-to wiki proposal for you ;) Care to contribute ?
How to use wireshark to debug hobbit client and server protocol ?
Here is direct link to hobbit wiki http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Other_Docs/HOWTO
tj
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:52 AM, TJ Yang <tjyang2001 at gmail.com> wrote:
Neil
It is in new-daemon.txt. URL is http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/branches/4.2.3/hobbitd...
tj
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Ok my mistake from what I can see this protocol is very simplistic. Nothing major. Sorry to bug you lot.
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:35 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
Xymon is open source and a packet capture should be easy - no encryption.
I don't think anyone can share anything more...
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
More curiosity than anything else. I like tinkering and would just like to know how does BBwin for example communicates with the server. Like I said nothing major just more of a information gathering exercise. I used to write real time systems for stock trading applications and this is I guess a sort of pet hobby....
-----Original Message----- From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh at imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 09:16 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
What are you trying to figure out?
On 5/21/10, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Hi All
Any pointers where I can have a look at the Xymon protocol? I can use wireshark to try and trace it but I am a little lazy this morning.
Regards Neil
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This message from the archive describes the entire architecture:
http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/2006/11/msg00315.html
On 05/21/2010 06:52 AM, TJ Yang wrote:
Neil
It is in new-daemon.txt. URL is http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/branches/4.2.3/hobbitd...
tj
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Ok my mistake from what I can see this protocol is very simplistic. Nothing major. Sorry to bug you lot.
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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Rich Smrcina <rsmrcina at wi.rr.com> wrote:
This message from the archive describes the entire architecture:
Rich, Thanks for dig up this note from Henrik. Any(or others) interest to create the architecture diagram with me ?
I know a bit of Dia and use it to create some hobbit architecture diagrams for work use. I think we should spend some effort to create professional looking diagram similar to other opensource projects have.
tj
On 05/21/2010 06:52 AM, TJ Yang wrote:
Neil
It is in new-daemon.txt. URL is
http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/branches/4.2.3/hobbitd...
tj
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Ok my mistake from what I can see this protocol is very simplistic. Nothing major. Sorry to bug you lot.
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Thanks TJ.
Will have a look at these. I had a look at the BBWin source code today and learned quite a bit about how to send messages to Xymon Server. I got it right to simulate some rough tests with telnet(after getting telnet running on Vista). I use BBwin quite a bit to monitor my M$ SQL boxes and some Gentoo Asterix(VOIP) Servers. I have done some development for BBwin to monitor SQL Server specifics. While BBwin is easy to use and quiet extensible I think it needs a major shot of new development.
I know there is Xymon.net client in alpha? I wish I could help but I tend to avoid .Net as I am a C/C++/Java person. I would love to contribute to the projects but will need to find out where first.
Regards Neil
-----Original Message----- From: TJ Yang [mailto:tjyang2001 at gmail.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 02:28 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Rich Smrcina <rsmrcina at wi.rr.com> wrote:
This message from the archive describes the entire architecture:
Rich, Thanks for dig up this note from Henrik. Any(or others) interest to create the architecture diagram with me ?
I know a bit of Dia and use it to create some hobbit architecture diagrams for work use. I think we should spend some effort to create professional looking diagram similar to other opensource projects have.
tj
On 05/21/2010 06:52 AM, TJ Yang wrote:
Neil
It is in new-daemon.txt. URL is
http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/branches/4.2.3/hobbitd...
tj
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Ok my mistake from what I can see this protocol is very simplistic. Nothing major. Sorry to bug you lot.
-- Rich Smrcina Phone: 414-491-6001 http://www.linkedin.com/in/richsmrcina
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I need to suppress checking of CIFS mounts to avoid piling up IO-blocked processes when a mount hangs. What hobbit file/program controls the "df" command used for the disk check? The DF= and DFCMD= lines in hobbitclient.cfg are commented "DF,DFCMD and PS are for compatibility only, NOT USED by the Hobbit client", and sure enough when I add "-xcifs" to those lines I still get the CIFS mounts after restarting the hobbit-client service.
I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that the "About Hobbit" page says that all configuration is centralized, yet the hobbitclient.cfg on my 4.2.0-6 and 4.2.0-7 clients says "include /var/lib/hobbit-client/runtime.cfg" (which exists on those machines), but on my 4.2.0-1 server says "include /var/run/hobbitclient-runtime.cfg" (which exists on that machine).
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Please do not thread hijack.
Xymon User in Richmond wrote:
I need to suppress checking of CIFS mounts to avoid piling up IO-blocked processes when a mount hangs. What hobbit file/program controls the "df" command used for the disk check? The DF= and DFCMD= lines in hobbitclient.cfg are commented "DF,DFCMD and PS are for compatibility only, NOT USED by the Hobbit client", and sure enough when I add "-xcifs" to those lines I still get the CIFS mounts after restarting the hobbit-client service.
I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that the "About Hobbit" page says that all configuration is centralized, yet the hobbitclient.cfg on my 4.2.0-6 and 4.2.0-7 clients says "include /var/lib/hobbit-client/runtime.cfg" (which exists on those machines), but on my 4.2.0-1 server says "include /var/run/hobbitclient-runtime.cfg" (which exists on that machine).
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I think there is a problem with your client as it is not a reply nor does it include any other wording from another thread.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu>wrote:
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Please do not thread hijack.
Xymon User in Richmond wrote:
I need to suppress checking of CIFS mounts to avoid piling up IO-blocked processes when a mount hangs. What hobbit file/program controls the "df" command used for the disk check? The DF= and DFCMD= lines in hobbitclient.cfg are commented "DF,DFCMD and PS are for compatibility only, NOT USED by the Hobbit client", and sure enough when I add "-xcifs" to those lines I still get the CIFS mounts after restarting the hobbit-client service.
I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that the "About Hobbit" page says that all configuration is centralized, yet the hobbitclient.cfg on my 4.2.0-6 and 4.2.0-7 clients says "include /var/lib/hobbit-client/runtime.cfg" (which exists on those machines), but on my 4.2.0-1 server says "include /var/run/hobbitclient-runtime.cfg" (which exists on that machine).
- ---- _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ |Y#| | | |\/| | \ |\ | | |Ryan Novosielski - Sr. Systems Programmer |$&| |__| | | |__/ | \| _| |novosirj at umdnj.edu - 973/972.0922 (2-0922) \__/ Univ. of Med. and Dent.|IST/CST-Academic Svcs. - ADMC 450, Newark -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
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It is indeed a reply -- from the headers:
In-reply-to: <8A82C7A8DFD13048B6717BBFA72CF57405FC9D97 at prmsdcex01.premier.local>
=R
Josh Luthman wrote:
I think there is a problem with your client as it is not a reply nor does it include any other wording from another thread.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
Please do not thread hijack.
Xymon User in Richmond wrote:
I need to suppress checking of CIFS mounts to avoid piling up IO-blocked processes when a mount hangs. What hobbit file/program controls the "df" command used for the disk check? The DF= and DFCMD= lines in hobbitclient.cfg are commented "DF,DFCMD and PS are for compatibility only, NOT USED by the Hobbit client", and sure enough when I add "-xcifs" to those lines I still get the CIFS mounts after restarting the hobbit-client service.
I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that the "About Hobbit" page says that all configuration is centralized, yet the hobbitclient.cfg on my 4.2.0-6 and 4.2.0-7 clients says "include /var/lib/hobbit-client/runtime.cfg" (which exists on those machines), but on my 4.2.0-1 server says "include /var/run/hobbitclient-runtime.cfg" (which exists on that machine).
To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk>
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Oops, lazy me. I used a "Reply to list" function, but gutted the message and used a new subject line. Did not think about the possibility that other headers might trigger something for you folks--I don't use a threaded client. I'll post again from scratch.
On Fri, May 21, 2010 12:21, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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It is indeed a reply -- from the headers:
In-reply-to: <8A82C7A8DFD13048B6717BBFA72CF57405FC9D97 at prmsdcex01.premier.local>
=R
Josh Luthman wrote:
I think there is a problem with your client as it is not a reply nor does it include any other wording from another thread.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. --- Winston Churchill
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
Please do not thread hijack.
Xymon User in Richmond wrote:
I need to suppress checking of CIFS mounts to avoid piling up IO-blocked processes when a mount hangs. What hobbit file/program controls the "df" command used for the disk check? The DF= and DFCMD= lines in hobbitclient.cfg are commented "DF,DFCMD and PS are for compatibility only, NOT USED by the Hobbit client", and sure enough when I add "-xcifs" to those lines I still get the CIFS mounts after restarting the hobbit-client service.
I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that the "About Hobbit" page says that all configuration is centralized, yet the hobbitclient.cfg on my 4.2.0-6 and 4.2.0-7 clients says "include /var/lib/hobbit-client/runtime.cfg" (which exists on those machines), but on my 4.2.0-1 server says "include /var/run/hobbitclient-runtime.cfg" (which exists on that machine).
To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk>
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Oops, sorry. It didn't show up as a hi-jack on Gmail.
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“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Xymon User in Richmond < hobbit at epperson.homelinux.net> wrote:
Oops, lazy me. I used a "Reply to list" function, but gutted the message and used a new subject line. Did not think about the possibility that other headers might trigger something for you folks--I don't use a threaded client. I'll post again from scratch.
On Fri, May 21, 2010 12:21, Ryan Novosielski wrote:
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It is indeed a reply -- from the headers:
In-reply-to: <8A82C7A8DFD13048B6717BBFA72CF57405FC9D97 at prmsdcex01.premier.local>
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Josh Luthman wrote:
I think there is a problem with your client as it is not a reply nor does it include any other wording from another thread.
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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
Please do not thread hijack.
Xymon User in Richmond wrote:
I need to suppress checking of CIFS mounts to avoid piling up IO-blocked processes when a mount hangs. What hobbit file/program controls the "df" command used for the disk check? The DF= and DFCMD= lines in hobbitclient.cfg are commented "DF,DFCMD and PS are for compatibility only, NOT USED by the Hobbit client", and sure enough when I add "-xcifs" to those lines I still get the CIFS mounts after restarting the hobbit-client service.
I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that the "About Hobbit" page says that all configuration is centralized, yet the hobbitclient.cfg on my 4.2.0-6 and 4.2.0-7 clients says "include /var/lib/hobbit-client/runtime.cfg" (which exists on those machines), but on my 4.2.0-1 server says "include /var/run/hobbitclient-runtime.cfg" (which exists on that machine).
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Thanks!
I didn't know this occurred myself until a few years ago when someone chastised me (and have since switched to a threaded mail client and discovered how obnoxious it is! :)).
Xymon User in Richmond wrote:
Oops, lazy me. I used a "Reply to list" function, but gutted the message and used a new subject line. Did not think about the possibility that other headers might trigger something for you folks--I don't use a threaded client. I'll post again from scratch.
On Fri, May 21, 2010 12:21, Ryan Novosielski wrote: It is indeed a reply -- from the headers:
In-reply-to: <8A82C7A8DFD13048B6717BBFA72CF57405FC9D97 at prmsdcex01.premier.local>
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Josh Luthman wrote:
I think there is a problem with your client as it is not a reply nor does it include any other wording from another thread.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
continue that counts.
--- Winston Churchill
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Ryan Novosielski <novosirj at umdnj.edu <mailto:novosirj at umdnj.edu>> wrote:
Please do not thread hijack.
Xymon User in Richmond wrote:
I need to suppress checking of CIFS mounts to avoid piling up IO-blocked processes when a mount hangs. What hobbit file/program controls the "df" command used for the disk check? The DF= and DFCMD= lines in hobbitclient.cfg are commented "DF,DFCMD and PS are for compatibility only, NOT USED by the Hobbit client", and sure enough when I add "-xcifs" to those lines I still get the CIFS mounts after restarting the hobbit-client service. I'm also not sure what to make of the fact that the "About Hobbit" page says that all configuration is centralized, yet the hobbitclient.cfg on my 4.2.0-6 and 4.2.0-7 clients says "include /var/lib/hobbit-client/runtime.cfg" (which exists on those machines), but on my 4.2.0-1 server says "include /var/run/hobbitclient-runtime.cfg" (which exists on that machine). To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk <mailto:hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk>
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Hi, Neil
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Thanks TJ.
Will have a look at these. I had a look at the BBWin source code today and learned quite a bit about how to send messages to Xymon Server. I got it right to simulate some rough tests with telnet(after getting telnet running on Vista). I use BBwin quite a bit to monitor my M$ SQL boxes and some Gentoo Asterix(VOIP) Servers. I have done some development for BBwin to monitor SQL Server specifics.
I study BBWin before. Glad to see you are interested about BBWin. I was/am impressed with BBWin use XML file for hobbit client configuration, nmake to inline with Unix build and lastly use WiX for packaging tool.
My interests was to create a develpment windows box, so that I can recreate bbwin.msi to include my own customization. My last effort was documented in R1. but it is pretty outdated.
R1: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/System_Monitoring_with_Xymon/Developer_Guide#Wi...
While BBwin is easy to use and quiet extensible I think it needs a major shot of new development.
I agree but we need some capable person willing to do it for free !
BBWin author is hard to reach, I am hoping you can be our goto person for BBWin src tree.
I know there is Xymon.net client in alpha? I wish I could help but I tend to avoid .Net as I am a C/C++/Java person.
I am still struggling to polish my C coding skill no time for C#.
I would love to contribute to the projects but will need to find out where first.
How about "Make R1 procedure to work with VS Express 2010 ?" It is hard to download VS2005 express. A few weeks ago, I wanted to follow my own procedure to create another dev box using downloadable VS2010 express and got stuck with boot library issue ;-<
Let me know if you have working BBWin dev environment, my old working vmware session some how lost..
tj
Regards Neil
-----Original Message----- From: TJ Yang [mailto:tjyang2001 at gmail.com] Sent: 21 May 2010 02:28 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Xymon Protocol
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Rich Smrcina <rsmrcina at wi.rr.com> wrote:
This message from the archive describes the entire architecture:
Rich, Thanks for dig up this note from Henrik. Any(or others) interest to create the architecture diagram with me ?
I know a bit of Dia and use it to create some hobbit architecture diagrams for work use. I think we should spend some effort to create professional looking diagram similar to other opensource projects have.
tj
On 05/21/2010 06:52 AM, TJ Yang wrote:
Neil
It is in new-daemon.txt. URL is
http://hobbitmon.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hobbitmon/branches/4.2.3/hobbitd...
tj
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 2:56 AM, Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za> wrote:
Ok my mistake from what I can see this protocol is very simplistic. Nothing major. Sorry to bug you lot.
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Citerar Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za>:
some development for BBwin to monitor SQL Server specifics. While BBwin is easy to use and quiet extensible I think it needs a major shot of new development.
I think Hobbit needs *any* maintained Windows client. I am the author of the Mr Big client, which I wrote for my previous employer. When I quit in April I warned that since my new employer doesn't use Hobbit I would no longer maintain the client, so they would eventually need to find a replacement for me or a replacement for Mr Big.
As it is, the situation wrt monitoring Windows servers with Hobbit is:
Big Brother client: costs $$$ and is ignored by Quest. Not an option.
BBwin: abandoned in 2008.
Mr Big: relatively up to date, but currently unmaintained afaik.
Xymon.net: rumourware.
Mr Big is licensed under GPL, so if anybody wants to pick up development, fork the code or whatever you are free to do so. It is pretty easy to set up a cross-compiling environment using free Gnu tools. Contact me if you want and/or need pointers.
Ulric
Hi, Ultric
Nice to see you speak up on hobbit windows client issue. I didn't have a need to run hobbit client on windows at work thus I wasn't paying too much attention on this subject.
I quickly browsed the src code at http://mrbig.365-24.se/MrBig/Doc/Archive/Sources/MrBig-0.19.1/.
One question to you, Does Mr. Big hobbit client support client side binary/module update from central hobbit server ?
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 3:33 AM, <ulric at siag.nu> wrote:
Citerar Neil Franken <nfranken at theunlimitedworld.co.za>:
some development for BBwin to monitor SQL Server specifics. While BBwin is easy to use and quiet extensible I think it needs a major shot of new development.
I think Hobbit needs *any* maintained Windows client. I am the author of the Mr Big client, which I wrote for my previous employer. When I quit in April I warned that since my new employer doesn't use Hobbit I would no longer maintain the client, so they would eventually need to find a replacement for me or a replacement for Mr Big.
As it is, the situation wrt monitoring Windows servers with Hobbit is:
- Big Brother client: costs $$$ and is ignored by Quest. Not an option.
Can you explain more about " BB client is ignored by Quest" part ? Are you saying even one pay for bb windows client license, Quest is still not provide good support on BB Client ?
- BBwin: abandoned in 2008. I am not sure if BBWin got abandoned by the original author but I am having hard time to reproduce a WinXP development box.
- Mr Big: relatively up to date, but currently unmaintained afaik.
I hope you still stick around in xymon community using your free time.
- Xymon.net: rumourware.
Mr Big is licensed under GPL, so if anybody wants to pick up development, fork the code or whatever you are free to do so. It is pretty easy to set up a cross-compiling environment using free Gnu tools. Contact me if you want and/or need pointers.
If Mr Big is functional equivalent to BBwin, then I will roll you src into main xymon src tree.
Using same src tree and dev machine to create binary for Unix(and MacOSX) and Windows is a great time-saver for xymon development work.
Ulric
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Citerar TJ Yang <tjyang2001 at gmail.com>:
Hi, Ultric
Nice to see you speak up on hobbit windows client issue. I didn't have a need to run hobbit client on windows at work thus I wasn't paying too much attention on this subject.
I quickly browsed the src code at http://mrbig.365-24.se/MrBig/Doc/Archive/Sources/MrBig-0.19.1/.
One question to you, Does Mr. Big hobbit client support client side binary/module update from central hobbit server ?
I'm not a big fan of individual applications managing their own patch policy, so no. The client is a single exe file, so the update procedure is:
net stop mrbig copy the new version on top of the old net start mrbig
A colleague wrote a script to update all servers in an AD automatically.
That said, a gimmick to perform the three steps above could easily be implemented.
I think Hobbit needs *any* maintained Windows client. I am the author of the Mr Big client, which I wrote for my previous employer. When I quit in April I warned that since my new employer doesn't use Hobbit I would no longer maintain the client, so they would eventually need to find a replacement for me or a replacement for Mr Big.
As it is, the situation wrt monitoring Windows servers with Hobbit is:
- Big Brother client: costs $$$ and is ignored by Quest. Not an option.
Can you explain more about " BB client is ignored by Quest" part ? Are you saying even one pay for bb windows client license, Quest is still not provide good support on BB Client ?
When Quest bought Big Brother, we were very excited because we used Big Brother to monitor something like 1000 nodes, and we thought they would delevop it into something even better, more scalable, more capable etc. But all they did was raise the price. We moved our bbdisplays to Hobbit and I wrote Mr Big.
I evaluated the "new" Big Brother a year ago and got the impression it has seen virtually no development since I last saw it. That's a shame because Quest have a good reputation and I don't understand why they would let the product rot.
If you search for Big Brother on the Quest web today, they guide you to the "new" page at bb4.com. My interpretation is that they want nothing to do with it.
I hope you still stick around in xymon community using your free time.
What's that? ;)
If Mr Big is functional equivalent to BBwin, then I will roll you src into main xymon src tree.
Using same src tree and dev machine to create binary for Unix(and MacOSX) and Windows is a great time-saver for xymon development work.
Brilliant. The source is available here:
http://mrbig.365-24.se/Archive/Sources/
The last version is 0.19.3.
The minicfg program runs on the bbdisplay and provides automatic client configuration. Optional but very very convenient. I think I can dig up a more recent version than the one in the source package. I should also be able to dig up a description of how to set up a cross-compiling environment.
Ulric
participants (7)
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hobbit＠epperson.homelinux.net
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josh＠imaginenetworksllc.com
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nfranken＠theunlimitedworld.co.za
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novosirj＠umdnj.edu
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rsmrcina＠wi.rr.com
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tjyang2001＠gmail.com
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ulric＠siag.nu