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[hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
by Martin.Ward＠colt.net 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Having read all the various comments it seems to come down to: Most people are happy with the name "Hobbitmon", however this would need to be run past the lawyers to confirm it is acceptable. A significant minority would like the name changed to a large degree to make it more acceptable to pointy haired bosses (PHBs). So I have a couple of thoughts and questions: T1: Hobbitmon is a useful option to go with simply because Sourceforge have it listed under that name already. Q1: Would the Hobbit lawyers be happy of we simply put disclaimers on the front page of every hobbit monitor to get around the legal concerns Henrik mentioned? A simple "This tool has nothing to do The Hobbit, LOTR etc etc etc, click her if you want things with hairy feet" would cover that nicely. Q2: Would "Hobbitmon" be acceptable enough to both lawyers and PHBs or does the name need to change radically? Q3: If Q1 is OK then how about a pseudonym/nickname/alternate to get around Q2? If you look at the current web pages and code there is very little that actually says "Hobbit" apart from the web link at the bottom of the page, which could easily be changed in the next version with no adverse effects. T2: I am basing the idea of an alternative name on the fact that the PHBs are not going to be looking at the Hobbit website or documentation. If you are trying to sell this tool to a group you're going to show them a) your own slide shows where you can put your own names in and b) the monitoring tool itself, which only has the link mentioned in Q3 above. |\/|artin -----Original Message----- From: Henrik Stoerner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk] Sent: 31 July 2008 17:30 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen Hi everyone, some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the Hobbit monitor project. Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, merchandise etc. that they produce. So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know if I pick something else. The full correspondance can be seen at http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/ My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; this is most like the current name, and it would also fit with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS entries ... But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions. Regards, Henrik To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk ************************************************************************************* The message is intended for the named addressee only and may not be disclosed to or used by anyone else, nor may it be copied in any way. The contents of this message and its attachments are confidential and may also be subject to legal privilege. If you are not the named addressee and/or have received this message in error, please advise us by e-mailing security at colt.net and delete the message and any attachments without retaining any copies. Internet communications are not secure and COLT does not accept responsibility for this message, its contents nor responsibility for any viruses. No contracts can be created or varied on behalf of COLT Telecommunications, its subsidiaries or affiliates ("COLT") and any other party by email Communications unless expressly agreed in writing with such other party. Please note that incoming emails will be automatically scanned to eliminate potential viruses and unsolicited promotional emails. For more information refer to www.colt.net or contact us on +44(0)20 7390 3900.

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Enable file status and proc's graph
by Jerome.Meyer＠baldata.ch 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Hi all Ok, i'm going further with Hobbit! I've read documentations and configured one server and three clients... However, I've questions about some configuration : files status ************ I've configurated hobbit-clients.cfg and the client-local.cfg but never appears in Hobbit, what's wrong? hobbit-clients.cfg HOST=%proxy1.* UP 30min LOAD 6.0 12.0 DISK /var/log 85 95 DIR red size>500K TRACK FILE /usr/local/sbin/test.txt red size<100K TRACK FILE /usr/local/sbin/linux_logfile.log TRACK client-local.cfg [%proxy1.*] dir:/var/log file:/usr/local/sbin/text.txt file:/usr/local/sbin/linux_logfile.log Graph ***** One client's has a graph for disk columns but a another one has no graph! Where could be the problem because both have same configuration! How could I enable the graph in the procs columns? Thanks a lot for your help... Best regards bâldata - die IT & Telecom Services der IWB Jérôme M. Meyer SIN - Network Engineer Phone______ +41 (0)61.275.5266 Fax________ +41 (0)61.275.5509 Mobile_____ +41 (0)79.349.2315 E-Mail_____ jerome.meyer at baldata.ch <mailto:vorname.name at iwb.ch> www.baldata.ch <http://www.iwb.ch> _____________________ Partner von Swisspower www.swisspower.ch *******************************************************************

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[hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will h appen
by bewhite＠fellowes.com 03 Aug '08

03 Aug '08

Shhh.... Don't let the lawyers know! -----Original Message----- From: Martin Flemming [mailto:martin.flemming at desy.de] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 12:56 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen Hmm, it's something already there http://www.fastpath.it/products/palantir/ martin On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Galen Johnson wrote: > I like it...it's exactly what the Palantir were for... > > =G= > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Eggleston [mailto:mikeegg1 at mac.com] > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 1:34 PM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: Re: [hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change > will happen > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Kern, Thomas might have said: > >> How about Palantir ? > > No, 'precious'! > > Mike > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > > > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk ---------------------------------------------------- Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Fellowes, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------

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[hobbit] SCRIPT using expect
by bewhite＠fellowes.com 03 Aug '08

03 Aug '08

Eric, I have done some scripts which act upon a change of status to attempt to correct the issue (none using expect). I find it is best to somehow track that you have attempted the change in the past and after X number of attempts (I usually only allow one automated fix attempt), forget the automated fix and just set the status to red, so I get paged. It is easy to do this by writing a small file with any needed information from the attempt to have the issue resolved via my monitoring script. If the problem goes away and the status will be reported as green, I delete the info file. If the problem is still present and the info file exists, I leave the file there and start the paging process in motion. .....Bruce -----Original Message----- From: Hubbard, Greg L [mailto:greg.hubbard at eds.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:57 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] SCRIPT using expect Eric, You need to make sure that your script sets up its own environment prior to running because the Hobbit server may not have the same settings as what you have when you develop the script. This is the same issue that you would have to conquer if you were to put the script under cron. Secondly, you probably need to write a "director" script that is invoked through the alert rule, and let it examine the parameters in order to determine which "worker" script to call. I think this is the only way to run a different script when something has recovered. You also must take into account that you will get recovered messages even if no alert was sent. You should probably diagram out the whole thing from one end to the other -- e.g. Something breaks Hobbit test X goes to color C1 my script is run for test X, color C1 My script does something to resolve the problem Hobbit text X goes to color C2 My script is run for test X, color C1, resolved. Etc. GLH -----Original Message----- From: news [mailto:news at ger.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Eric Jacobs Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:53 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] SCRIPT using expect I have been asked by those who must be obeyed to see if I can get Hobbit to make a configuration change on a switch if a certain connection test goes red. Been trying to do so via an "expect" script. Script runs fine when run manually but fails from within Hobbit. First attempt failed because script apparently didn't wait long enough after spawning a telnet session. So I slowed it down and it got session started but apparently didn't "send" password. Has anyone done anything like this? Even if I get it to work, a few other questions arise. 1. Will it continue to run script if connection failure continues? 2. If I turn "RECOVER" on, can I run an alternate script upon recovery? Eric Jacobs To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk ---------------------------------------------------- Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Fellowes, Inc. ----------------------------------------------------

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client over-ride of tests processed on server, vmware esx
by seanj＠xyke.com 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

This post is about how to modify the [cpu] test on a per client basis. I am new to Hobbit. I have developed some extra client side tests that I have successfully used to log up to the server. My question is about the cpu column on the hobbit web display. I see that this test result is processed from the top output as sent by the client/hobbitclient-$OS.sh script On the client side, [top] sends the data to the server, which is then parsed and turned into what would look like a [cpu] test from the client. I tried sending my own [cpu] test to hobbit. But it would not show up. I changed the test name to 'xcpu' and I get an extra column. So I was sending it properly. If I have a couple hosts where I would like to send my own test results for existing columns that are processed on the server, where would I configure that? Is it even possible? I traced through hobbit server source for where some of this data is processed, hobbitd_client but couldn't immediately grok the configuration. I am developing custom tests for measuring cpu/memory and disk for vmware esx server. The problem with the cpu test is that top only esx only returns the load and processes from the host os, not the clients. We would like to get the stats for the whole machine. This is available through the `esxtop` program, but the outputs are very different. It would take a couple days to transform esxtop -b -n 1 > output.txt Into the same output as regular top. Currently I have some python code that parses the output of the esxtop command and supplies back the color and message to the server. I would like my tests _in place of_ the tests displayed on the server for my esx clients. Sean

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Ubuntu and Hobbit
by ardevaas1＠hotmail.com 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

To whom it may concern: I read that I could install and use Hobbit network monitoring tools on Ubuntu. I now have Ubuntu installed on a Dell Pentium 4 workstation. Now I tried to install the Hobbitmon client to start using it at work and it keeps on failing. Does Hobbit require a server to operate? Will the network monitoring function require that the PC have 2 network cards? Thanks Vincent A. Saavedra Mobile: (708) 945-1215 _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_fa…

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[hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
by annaj＠hi.is 02 Aug '08

02 Aug '08

On fim, 2008-07-31 at 13:26 -0400, Galen Johnson wrote: > Bilbo? :D That would not keep the lawyers from knocking on Henriks door (symbolically speaking). If anything, they would be even more eager. Hobbit is the name of a species in J.R.R. Tolkiens stories, and it is only named in his stories. There are other things like the Shire that are associated with those that are somehow associated with Hobbit Monitor, and that might give some similarities to thoes stories. There is however a mythology that those stories are built upon, a mythology that is in the public domain. Even though I personally like the name Hobbit Monitor best, or Hobbitmon, the name Gandalfr Monitor, could be an option to be considered. The name Gandalfr and the name Elf or Alf are much older than Tolkiens work, dated back to about the year 1300 AD in Völuspá and the Elder Edda by the icelandic authors. See: http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Gandalfr The Old Norse name "Gandalfr" appears in the list of dwarves in the Völuspá of the Elder Edda; the name means "wand-elf." Tolkien took the name along with the dwarves' names when he wrote The Hobbit in the 1930s. He came to regret the creation of this "rabble of eddaic-named dwarves, [...] invented in an idle hour" (The Return of the Shadow:452), since it forced him to come up with an explanation of why Old Norse names should be used in Third Age Middle-earth. Meaning Of Names In The Lord Of The Ring - Anders Andersen's WebLog (324 words) In an Old Norse poem, Tolkien found a list of dwarf names which included "Gandalfr." Since alfr means "elf," he began to wonder what an elf was doing in a company of dwarfs. Tolkien interpreted the first element ("Gand") of "Gandalfr" to mean "wand." This gave Tolkien the notion that Gandalfr must be a sorcerer-elf who possessed a magic wand or staff. Gandalfr, he theorized, must have joined the band of dwarfs to obtain some special sort of magical plunder. -- Kindest Regards, Anna Jonna Ármannsdóttir, %& A: Because people read from top to bottom. Unix System Aministration, Computing Services, %& Q: Why is top posting bad? University of Iceland.

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[hobbit] Alerts Help
by tim.grzechowski.osv＠fedex.com 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

With this hobbit naming issue coming up it looks like I asked a question at the wrong time. ;) This may be much easier. could somebody cut'n'paste part of their hobbit-alerts.cfg here that uses email for alerts. If you have some with subpages that would be most excellent. Thanks and everyone have a great weekend! /tg _____ From: Tim Grzechowski [mailto:tim.grzechowski.osv at fedex.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 4:57 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Alerts Help I just cannot figure how to set up alerts. Maybe I can save you lots of reading. All I am trying to do at this time I am just looking to set up basic paging to an email (list) address. I will want to break it down to subpages for fabric servers, DB servers, web servers and weblogic server. But. here is what I am working with now. For now I have, or so I thought, narrowed it down to the most basic of configuration and still cannot get it to work. hobbit-alerts.cfg (added to the bottom of the file). HOST=* MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=yellow MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=cONN color=red MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=purple When I run bbcmd with just --test I get the following: [root at tstfabric121 etc]# ../bin/bbcmd hobbitd_alert --test tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com procs 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Using default environment file /usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 send_alert tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs state Paging 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Matching host:service:page 'tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs:' against rule line 125 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 *** Match with 'HOST=*' *** 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Matching host:service:page 'tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs:' against rule line 126 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=yellow' (service not in include list) 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Matching host:service:page 'tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs:' against rule line 127 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=cONN color=red' (service not in include list) 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Matching host:service:page 'tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:procs:' against rule line 128 00024059 2008-07-31 16:48:03 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=purple' (service not in include list) With --debug too I get this: [root at tstfabric121 etc]# ../bin/bbcmd hobbitd_alert --test --debug tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com procs 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Using default environment file /usr/lib/hobbit/server/etc/hobbitserver.cfg 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Host not found in bb-hosts - assuming it is on the top page 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 send_alert --debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com state Paging 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Matching host:service:page '--debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:' against rule line 125 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 *** Match with 'HOST=*' *** 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Matching host:service:page '--debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:' against rule line 126 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=yellow' (service not in include list) 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Matching host:service:page '--debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:' against rule line 127 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=cONN color=red' (service not in include list) 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Matching host:service:page '--debug:tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com:' against rule line 128 00024284 2008-07-31 16:48:43 Failed 'MAIL root at localhost SERVICE=conn color=purple' (service not in include list) Now the host, tstfabric121.ce.fedex.com, is in the bb-host file. And, in fact, is the hobbit server. Also, so long as I am burning bandwidth, I am not understanding how the page/subpage work into this? I do have subpage's set up in my bb-hosts file. Thanks.

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Alerting naming limitation
by jkwade＠futurefrontiers.com 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

I have a strange problem on alerting. I have windows pages going to a windows admin. However, he got a page from a unix box last night. I have all his hosts explicitly listed so he should not have gotten the page. The machine names are similiar, and I'm not using any "regular expressions" for him, just the hostnames. So, I was wondering if hobbit had a character limit on host names. example: mysadw002 is a windows server mysadu002 is a unix server Only the "w" and "u" denote if its a windows or unix server. I have mysadw002 listed for him to get a page on. He received a page last night for mysadu002. Thanks for the help...James

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[hobbit] "Hobbit" name legal stuff; slight name change will happen
by dan.simoes＠gmail.com 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

How about h0bbit? (that's a zero, not an O) Don't think that would work for a domain though. Otherwise, I vote for hmon (hobbit monitor) or hsmon (Henrik Stoerner's monitor). Both are available as .org domains. Dan On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Henrik Stoerner <henrik at hswn.dk> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > some lawyers behind the movie company that produced the "Lord of the > Rings" trilogy have contacted me about using the name "Hobbit" for the > Hobbit monitor project. > > Fortunately, it seems that these people are actually quite sensible. > They just want to make sure that there is no risk of anyone assuming > that the "Hobbit monitor" has anything to do with the books, movies, > merchandise etc. that they produce. > > So they've suggested that beginning with the next release, "Hobbit > monitor" is renamed to either "Hobbi monitor" (without the 't'), or > "H.O.B.B.I.T. Monitor" . Or something else, but they want to know > if I pick something else. > > The full correspondance can be seen at > http://www.hobbitmon.com/hobbitdocs/legal/ > > My current preference is to use the "H.O.B.B.I.T." version; > this is most like the current name, and it would also fit > with all of the current URL's used for various Hobbit functions (e.g. > the "hobbitmon.sf.net" project page). I'm going to write the lawyers and > get a definite OK that I can use "hobbitmon" in URL's and such; > I doubt that I can get Sourceforge to accept a project named > "h.o.b.b.i.t." since that would probably cause havoc with the DNS > entries ... > > But I'd like to hear if there are other suggestions or opinions. > > > Regards, > Henrik > > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > >

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