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[hobbit] Oratns
by JMSmith＠stvincenthealth.com 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Ha! I know what you mean. My son is a programmer for a government agency. ________________________________ From: Everett, Vernon [mailto:Vernon.Everett at dpi.wa.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:16 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Oratns Thanks Jim Sounds like an idea. If you have time I would apreciate it. But let's give it some time, somebody may still have the answer. Henrik could probably check the code and tell us - and he should be up in just a few hours. The irony is, I am a DBA as well as a SysAdmin, and could do exactly as you suggest easily enough, but I work for a government department, hired as a contract SysAdmin!!!!!! The outcry it would cause if a SysAdmin did any DBA work is just not worth it. The senior DBA is on leave, and the junior one can't/won't help. (The senior DBA is a mate of mine, so he would help, but isn't back for 2 weeks) Amazing how easily politics can prevent you having a good day. :-( Cheers Vernon ________________________________ From: Smith, Jim [mailto:JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2006 9:42 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Oratns Yes, I'm sure it WOULD be a CLM! Unfortunately, I don't have multiple listeners running on any of my servers so I can't be of much help. Do you have a test server running Oracle that you can play with? I do and am willing to give this a try if I can get my DBA to assist with setting up some dummy listeners. Jim Smith -----Original Message----- From: Everett, Vernon [mailto:Vernon.Everett at dpi.wa.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:36 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Oratns Hi all Some assistance with bb-hosts please. If I want to check for an oracle listener, my line looks like this 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545 This will check for an Oracle listener on port 1545 How do I make it check for more than one Oracle listener? For reasons unknown to me, we are running multiple listeners on separate ports on a server. Should I have multiple oratns entries (so my line looks like this) 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545 oratns 1546 Or can we do it like this 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545:1546 Ordinarily, I would just run a few tests, but bring down one of the listeners on a production server as a test could prove to be a serious CLM. Regards Vernon To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system. NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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client info
by kolbjorn.barmen＠uninett.no 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Is it possible to add more information to the "info" page? One thing I miss on that page is "Client version:" (especially now as I upgrade BBWin client). -- Kolbjørn Barmen UNINETT Driftsenter

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[hobbit] Shire: update
by brodie＠mcw.edu 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

So long as we can "search" on the module or item description(s), we should be fine. --------------------------------------------------------- Kent C. Brodie - brodie at phys.mcw.edu Department of Physiology Medical College of Wisconsin (414) 456-8590 -----Original Message----- From: Charles Goyard [mailto:cgoyard at cvf.fr] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:56 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Shire: update Hi, talking about categories, one thing that deadcat misses is the display (and search) of the column name generated. People sometime use really generic names, such as "files", "size", "modules" or "test" (you bet) for very application-specific matters. It can also prevent name clashes. Just a idea. -- Charles Goyard - cgoyard at cvf.fr - (+33) 1 45 38 01 31 To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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Default groupings
by jason.kruse＠teldta.com 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Would it be possible to add a default group label for each line automatically in the client configuration so you don't have to qualify them on every entry? It doesn't really matter what label name is used. It would make it easier to configure the alerts since all rules would have a group associated and you won't get excessive notifications on items that don't have a group label. Jason

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Oratns
by Vernon.Everett＠dpi.wa.gov.au 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Hi all Some assistance with bb-hosts please. If I want to check for an oracle listener, my line looks like this 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545 This will check for an Oracle listener on port 1545 How do I make it check for more than one Oracle listener? For reasons unknown to me, we are running multiple listeners on separate ports on a server. Should I have multiple oratns entries (so my line looks like this) 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545 oratns 1546 Or can we do it like this 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545:1546 Ordinarily, I would just run a few tests, but bring down one of the listeners on a production server as a test could prove to be a serious CLM. Regards Vernon

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[hobbit] Shire: update
by brodie＠mcw.edu 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

One category I'd like to see is a place for user-created config files to go as examples. For example, sample bb-hosts files, hobbit-clients.cfg, hobbit-alerts.cfg, etc. I had a wee bit of struggling to get the behavior of some of the alerting rules right, for example. As far as categories in general, I agree deadcat has too many..... My $0.02: Network Disk Email Databases HTTP Config Examples Environment Security At least to start with- perhaps a few more. I think most items can be lumped in here somewhere. --------------------------------------------------------- Kent C. Brodie - brodie at phys.mcw.edu Department of Physiology Medical College of Wisconsin (414) 456-8590 -----Original Message----- From: Galen Johnson [mailto:gjohnson at trantor.org] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:44 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Shire: update Galen Johnson wrote: > Just wanted to give everyone a heads up on the new monitor site that > is being set up (theshire.sf.net)...Sourceforge accepted it late last > night ( around midnight EDT). I want to work with Henrik a bit to > make sure that our visions converge on this. I also need to set up > the categories (at a minimum) before turning everyone loose...I would > prefer there to be some structure in place beforehand. Please be > patient...I really appreciate everyone's enthusiasm for this project > and I hope to have everything going in the next few days. It's also > been a LONG time since I've done anything on SF and need to refresh my > memory about things (and become familiar with some of the new tools). > > =G= > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > OK...we're getting to the point to where we need to consider the categories...personally, I think deadcat has too many. I'd like to keep the categories as straightforward as possible. I'm open to ideas as to what the basic categories should be...I'm also going to see how many times I can use the word categories in this email... I'm hoping the the BBWin folks will consider using this area as well. I'm not going to prompt with the list of categories I have in mind as I'd rather hear what other users think first. I'd also like to provide a tutorial on writing monitoring scripts complete with the graphing and alerting. Henrik has provided some basic framework for a basic client and server script. I should probably go back through the archives to see what already exists as well (if you know of something, by all means, please point me to it). I have a developers list and announcement list set up. I still need to flesh the details out a bit more. I'd like to set up a job that automatically sends a daily report to the announce list if new/updated monitors are added but I'm going to have to figure that out later. (I can see why Henrik hasn't found the time to tackle this :-) ) =G= To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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[hobbit] Windows Client
by brodie＠mcw.edu 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Does anyone know if there's going to be a gui wrapper around the config of this? I am reasonably impressed by the window client's abilities (just fired it up on one of my windows nodes), but I can tell that the windows sysadmins here will be a bit put off by having to manually make registry entries, and manually edit the xml config file. (It's one thing for us unix-dudes(or dudettes) to edit hobbit config items, but I know the windows guys like the gui way. The (older, yet still mostly functional) BBNT client is quite easy to install, configure, and run. I'm hoping that's what we ultimately end up with for the hobbit windows client! --------------------------------------------------------- Kent C. Brodie - brodie at phys.mcw.edu Department of Physiology Medical College of Wisconsin (414) 456-8590 -----Original Message----- From: Frédéric Mangeant [mailto:frederic.mangeant at steria.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 9:39 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Windows Client Le 01/08/2006 08:20, Everett, Vernon a écrit : > Hi all > > I have been asleep for a while, and not monitoring what's been going > on, but can anybody tell me the status of the Windows client? > When I last paid close attention to the list, the client was in beta, > and if I recall, did a pretty OK job. (I installed it on a test system) > But that was at the old job. > > New job, new Hobbit installation, and the Windoze crowd want to see > the client. > > What's news? 0.8 has been released :-) http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=597086 -- Frédéric Mangeant Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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[hobbit] Oratns
by Vernon.Everett＠dpi.wa.gov.au 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Thanks Jim Sounds like an idea. If you have time I would apreciate it. But let's give it some time, somebody may still have the answer. Henrik could probably check the code and tell us - and he should be up in just a few hours. The irony is, I am a DBA as well as a SysAdmin, and could do exactly as you suggest easily enough, but I work for a government department, hired as a contract SysAdmin!!!!!! The outcry it would cause if a SysAdmin did any DBA work is just not worth it. The senior DBA is on leave, and the junior one can't/won't help. (The senior DBA is a mate of mine, so he would help, but isn't back for 2 weeks) Amazing how easily politics can prevent you having a good day. :-( Cheers Vernon ________________________________ From: Smith, Jim [mailto:JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2006 9:42 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Oratns Yes, I'm sure it WOULD be a CLM! Unfortunately, I don't have multiple listeners running on any of my servers so I can't be of much help. Do you have a test server running Oracle that you can play with? I do and am willing to give this a try if I can get my DBA to assist with setting up some dummy listeners. Jim Smith -----Original Message----- From: Everett, Vernon [mailto:Vernon.Everett at dpi.wa.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:36 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Oratns Hi all Some assistance with bb-hosts please. If I want to check for an oracle listener, my line looks like this 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545 This will check for an Oracle listener on port 1545 How do I make it check for more than one Oracle listener? For reasons unknown to me, we are running multiple listeners on separate ports on a server. Should I have multiple oratns entries (so my line looks like this) 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545 oratns 1546 Or can we do it like this 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545:1546 Ordinarily, I would just run a few tests, but bring down one of the listeners on a production server as a test could prove to be a serious CLM. Regards Vernon To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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[hobbit] Hobbit newbie from BB: differences and what may I lose from migrating?
by Vernon.Everett＠dpi.wa.gov.au 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

You will lose nothing. I did exactly that. We had a third party monitoring our systems with BB when I joined my previous company. I changed the BB scripts to send to my Hobbit server as well as their BB server. (Duplicated the bb command line with the IP address of my Hobbit server instead of $BBDISPLAY) This meant the third party had a BB server running, and I had a Hobbit server, and they weren't even aware that the Hobbit server existed. (Yes, both were running in parallel, giving the same results) When I had suffiently impressed my PHB that Hobbit is better than BB, because it could do more, we told the third party where to get off, and all monitoring was done internally. (OK, there was far more politics involved in dumping the third party than just Hobbit/BB, but it helped having the ability to monitor our own systems as well, if not better than they were.) I then moved all our systems to the Hobbit client as and when I had time. Now stop with the questions. Just do it. You will never look back. :-) Cheers Vernon -----Original Message----- From: Jordan Mendler [mailto:jmendler at ucla.edu] Sent: Wednesday, 2 August 2006 9:00 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Hobbit newbie from BB: differences and what may I lose from migrating? Awesome guys, no doubt I am gonna try it out when I get some free time. I think the fact that I got all my questions answered a few different times in a very short period says something about the community. So if I use the existing BB clients with a new Hobbit server, what functionally will be lost until I have a chance to upgrade all the clients to hobbit? Thanks so much, Jordan

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[hobbit] Oratns
by JMSmith＠stvincenthealth.com 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Yes, I'm sure it WOULD be a CLM! Unfortunately, I don't have multiple listeners running on any of my servers so I can't be of much help. Do you have a test server running Oracle that you can play with? I do and am willing to give this a try if I can get my DBA to assist with setting up some dummy listeners. Jim Smith -----Original Message----- From: Everett, Vernon [mailto:Vernon.Everett at dpi.wa.gov.au] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 8:36 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Oratns Hi all Some assistance with bb-hosts please. If I want to check for an oracle listener, my line looks like this 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545 This will check for an Oracle listener on port 1545 How do I make it check for more than one Oracle listener? For reasons unknown to me, we are running multiple listeners on separate ports on a server. Should I have multiple oratns entries (so my line looks like this) 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545 oratns 1546 Or can we do it like this 1.2.3.4 name.domain.com # oratns:1545:1546 Ordinarily, I would just run a few tests, but bring down one of the listeners on a production server as a test could prove to be a serious CLM. Regards Vernon To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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