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[hobbit] using var in bb-hosts?
by brandste＠hebis.de 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

Hi all, maybe a not important question... Using bb-hosts with multiple hosts elongates to quiet a view lines ;-) But using different tests, slas, maintenance windows and stuff easy generates a lot of rows...and the line gets hard to read and to edit. (okok....i know about sed ;-) ) Is there a possibility to use variables as in hobbit-alerts? So one could group: $locationA-sla="DOWNTIME=W:0700:0730 REPORTTIME=W:0731:0659 WARNPCT:95.0" $locationA-service="NK:conn ftp ssh imap otherstuff route:router1,router2,router3" 1.1.1.1 usermonitor # http://www.userurl.com $locationA-sla $locationA-service 1.1.1.2 usermonitor2 # http://www.userurl2.com $locationA-sla $locationA-service ... man for bb-hosts says nothing about it. Best Mathias

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Moving to new Hobbit server
by allan＠zandahar.net 02 Mar '06

02 Mar '06

Hey guys, Can't seem to find anything on this but then again I haven't gone through all the results that come up on the mailing list search either. We moved from BB server to a Hobbit server a while ago but it was on the same box so there was no issue there. We are shuffling some old hardware around and decided to give our hobbit server some more grunt and also add some other odd apps on it. We'll want to progrssively move the hosts over to the new server so the clients are cool, just update the ip in windows ones, and the ip and hostname in the nix ones As for the server I'm assuming I can just copy the data dir over for the host I'm moving. I cannot imagine there being anything server specific in any of the status messages or graphs ? So action plan would be, shut down client on XYZ, define it in bb-hosts file on NEWHOBBIT, has it out in the OLDHOBBIT bb-hosts file, copy appropriate data folders from OLDHOBBIT to NEWHOBBIT (update ownership if need be), update ip addy and hostname in XYZ client settings, start client XYZ, be happy :) Any flaws in this thinking or suggestions of easier way even though I cannot imagine one can you please let me know Thanks Allan

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[hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script
by EES2Y＠hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

It's 118 lines, it does open a TCP socket, strictly for message sending, but it also does a little error handling and combo msging to make life easier on your bb server: http://nerdvana.org/eric/files/bbmsg.pm You could probably also send other commands (drop, rename, etc) through it, but I havent tried, so caveat emptor :) -Eric > -----Original Message----- > From: Charles Jones [mailto:jonescr at cisco.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:45 PM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: Re: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script > > If it's short please post it, or a link to it. Isn't all that > is needed is to make a TCP connection, or are you completely > emulating all of the functions of the bb binary? > > -Charles > > Schwimmer, Eric E *HS wrote: > > I've got a perl module that emulates the bb binary, if anybody > is interested. > > -Eric > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: FARRIOR, Andy > [mailto:Andy.Farrior at victoriacollege.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:23 AM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: RE: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script > > > ARGH! replied to the wrong person.... must > drink more coffee.... > > > that'd do it to. I know his $msg had a bunch > of quotes in it > and was killing the shell. > > > again, sorry about that. > > andy > > > ________________________________ > > From: Sherman, Larry, GCM > [mailto:Larry.Sherman at rbsgc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:41 AM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: RE: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script > > > > How about > > > > $LINE = "status $hostname.ups $color $now - > some Text if you > want it $msg"; > > system("/path/to/bb $bbhost \"$LINE\" &") > > > > That's what I do > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Taylor, Robert > [mailto:Robert.Taylor at HendrickAuto.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:24 AM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script > > > > All, > > > > This may be slightly off topic, but I figured > that there is > someone here > > that can help. Over the past weekend I wrote > my first Perl script to > > replace a number of aging shell scripts that I > had. What I > have done is > > written Perl scripts to query Liebert UPS > systems, Netbotz environment > > monitors and Juniper SSL VPN appliances. > Needless to say I am now a > > believer in how much faster Perl is than shell. > My scripts > dropped from > > about almost two minutes to run to 8 seconds. > > > > I can see all of the output when I print to > screen so I know > that it is > > polling everything okay. The problem that I am > having is getting Perl > > to send this data to Hobbit. It is just a > formatting issue as I can > > have it send plain text fine, but I am trying > to send HTML to create > > nice looking status pages. I have looked at previous > scripts, but they > > all use the BigBrother.pm module and I would > like to get this working > > without that. I am by no means a programmer > but this problem is going > > to bother me until I can get it working. > > > > Perhaps someone could provide just a bit of > Perl guidance? > The portion > > of the code that I think it is getting hung up > on is the colons in the > > HTML, but I am not sure. > > > > sub sendupdates { > > > > $msg = <<EOM; > > <html><body><center> > >  > > <table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" id=\"table1\" > > style=\"height: 197px; width: 649px;\"> > > <tbody> > > <tr> > > <th align=\"center\"> > > <hr width=\"100%\"></th> > > </tr> > > > > < snip other HTML > > > > > </center> > > </body> > > </html> > > > > EOM > > > > my $now = localtime($^T) . "\n"; > > > > if ($debug eq "yes"){ > > print "------------------- Time Stamp > --------------------\n"; > > print "Time Stamp: $now\n"; > > print "------------------- HTML Output > -------------------\n"; > > print $msg; > > } > > > > > > system("$bb $bbhost \"status ${bbhostname}.ups > $color $now ${msg}\""); > > > > > > } > > > > > > The error messages that our output to the > screen give the following: > > > > bb: incorrect number of arguments > > Format: <IP-ADDR> <DATA> > > sh: line 5: width:: command not found > > sh: line 13: > > > > > then there are also a lot of the following messages: > > > > sh: line 14: > </div> > > <table id=table2 style=width:: No such > file or directory > > sh: line 14: height:: command not found > > sh: line 17: > > > <tbody> > > <tr> > > <th width=267style=font-weight:: > command not found > > sh: line 17: text-align:: command not found > > sh: line 18: >Hostname:</th> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > Robert Taylor > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > ******************************************************************* > * > > This e-mail is intended only for the addressee > named above. > As this e-mail may contain confidential or > privileged information, > if you are not the named addressee, you are not > authorized > to retain, read, copy or disseminate this > message or any part of > it. > > > ******************************************************************* > * > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > > >

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[hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script
by EES2Y＠hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

I've got a perl module that emulates the bb binary, if anybody is interested. -Eric > -----Original Message----- > From: FARRIOR, Andy [mailto:Andy.Farrior at victoriacollege.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:23 AM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: RE: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script > > > ARGH! replied to the wrong person.... must drink more coffee.... > > > that'd do it to. I know his $msg had a bunch of quotes in it > and was killing the shell. > > > again, sorry about that. > > andy > > > ________________________________ > > From: Sherman, Larry, GCM [mailto:Larry.Sherman at rbsgc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:41 AM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: RE: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script > > > > How about > > > > $LINE = "status $hostname.ups $color $now - some Text if you > want it $msg"; > > system("/path/to/bb $bbhost \"$LINE\" &") > > > > That's what I do > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Taylor, Robert [mailto:Robert.Taylor at HendrickAuto.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:24 AM > To: hobbit at hswn.dk > Subject: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script > > > > All, > > > > This may be slightly off topic, but I figured that there is > someone here > > that can help. Over the past weekend I wrote my first Perl script to > > replace a number of aging shell scripts that I had. What I > have done is > > written Perl scripts to query Liebert UPS systems, Netbotz environment > > monitors and Juniper SSL VPN appliances. Needless to say I am now a > > believer in how much faster Perl is than shell. My scripts > dropped from > > about almost two minutes to run to 8 seconds. > > > > I can see all of the output when I print to screen so I know > that it is > > polling everything okay. The problem that I am having is getting Perl > > to send this data to Hobbit. It is just a formatting issue as I can > > have it send plain text fine, but I am trying to send HTML to create > > nice looking status pages. I have looked at previous > scripts, but they > > all use the BigBrother.pm module and I would like to get this working > > without that. I am by no means a programmer but this problem is going > > to bother me until I can get it working. > > > > Perhaps someone could provide just a bit of Perl guidance? > The portion > > of the code that I think it is getting hung up on is the colons in the > > HTML, but I am not sure. > > > > sub sendupdates { > > > > $msg = <<EOM; > > <html><body><center> > >  > > <table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" id=\"table1\" > > style=\"height: 197px; width: 649px;\"> > > <tbody> > > <tr> > > <th align=\"center\"> > > <hr width=\"100%\"></th> > > </tr> > > > > < snip other HTML > > > > > </center> > > </body> > > </html> > > > > EOM > > > > my $now = localtime($^T) . "\n"; > > > > if ($debug eq "yes"){ > > print "------------------- Time Stamp --------------------\n"; > > print "Time Stamp: $now\n"; > > print "------------------- HTML Output -------------------\n"; > > print $msg; > > } > > > > > > system("$bb $bbhost \"status ${bbhostname}.ups $color $now ${msg}\""); > > > > > > } > > > > > > The error messages that our output to the screen give the following: > > > > bb: incorrect number of arguments > > Format: <IP-ADDR> <DATA> > > sh: line 5: width:: command not found > > sh: line 13: > > > > > then there are also a lot of the following messages: > > > > sh: line 14: > </div> > > <table id=table2 style=width:: No such file or directory > > sh: line 14: height:: command not found > > sh: line 17: > > > <tbody> > > <tr> > > <th width=267style=font-weight:: command not found > > sh: line 17: text-align:: command not found > > sh: line 18: >Hostname:</th> > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > Robert Taylor > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to > > hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > ******************************************************************* > * > > This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. > As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, > if you are not the named addressee, you are not authorized > to retain, read, copy or disseminate this message or any part of > it. > > ******************************************************************* > * > > >

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RESOLVED - Slightly OT: External Perl Script
by Robert.Taylor＠HendrickAuto.com 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

All, WOW, thanks for the responses. In the end several of the solutions worked and it was indeed an issue with the double quotes. I just gained about 30% CPU usage by getting rid of the shell scripts with this Perl version. I couldn't have done it without your help. Robert Taylor -----Original Message----- From: Taylor, Robert [mailto:Robert.Taylor at HendrickAuto.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:24 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script All, This may be slightly off topic, but I figured that there is someone here that can help. Over the past weekend I wrote my first Perl script to replace a number of aging shell scripts that I had. What I have done is written Perl scripts to query Liebert UPS systems, Netbotz environment monitors and Juniper SSL VPN appliances. Needless to say I am now a believer in how much faster Perl is than shell. My scripts dropped from about almost two minutes to run to 8 seconds. I can see all of the output when I print to screen so I know that it is polling everything okay. The problem that I am having is getting Perl to send this data to Hobbit. It is just a formatting issue as I can have it send plain text fine, but I am trying to send HTML to create nice looking status pages. I have looked at previous scripts, but they all use the BigBrother.pm module and I would like to get this working without that. I am by no means a programmer but this problem is going to bother me until I can get it working. Perhaps someone could provide just a bit of Perl guidance? The portion of the code that I think it is getting hung up on is the colons in the HTML, but I am not sure. sub sendupdates { $msg = <<EOM; <html><body><center>  <table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" id=\"table1\" style=\"height: 197px; width: 649px;\"> <tbody> <tr> <th align=\"center\"> <hr width=\"100%\"></th> </tr> < snip other HTML > </center> </body> </html> EOM my $now = localtime($^T) . "\n"; if ($debug eq "yes"){ print "------------------- Time Stamp --------------------\n"; print "Time Stamp: $now\n"; print "------------------- HTML Output -------------------\n"; print $msg; } system("$bb $bbhost \"status ${bbhostname}.ups $color $now ${msg}\""); } The error messages that our output to the screen give the following: bb: incorrect number of arguments Format: <IP-ADDR> <DATA> sh: line 5: width:: command not found sh: line 13: > then there are also a lot of the following messages: sh: line 14: > </div> <table id=table2 style=width:: No such file or directory sh: line 14: height:: command not found sh: line 17: > <tbody> <tr> <th width=267style=font-weight:: command not found sh: line 17: text-align:: command not found sh: line 18: >Hostname:</th> Thanks in advance for any help. Robert Taylor To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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[hobbit] Moving to new Hobbit server
by greg.hubbard＠eds.com 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

I am no RRD expert, but it must be storing data in binary format. I believe the x86 and SPARC processors store integer values differently -- one is "big-endian" and the other is "little-endian" (I don't remember which is which) and this is the root cause of the problem. Used to have the same problems as a young lad when moving data between the IBM mainframe and VAX. GLH -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Mitchell [mailto:ralphmitchell at gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 11:02 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Moving to new Hobbit server On 2/28/06, ZanDAhaR <allan at zandahar.net> wrote: > Ok cool so basically the graphs stop updating if theyre NQR after the > move, I guess thats pretty effortless to test, move a host onto the > new box and come back in a day and see what happens I suppose. I think you could find out sooner than that - just copy an rrd over to the new system and try to dump it: rrdtool dump datafile.rrd If you get XML, it's probably all good. If it complains, you need to do the export at the original host and import it on the new host. I just copied an rrd over from a Sparc system to an x86 system, and rrdtool dump tells me: *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out): 0x0804a170 *** Abort whereas doing the same with a locally-created rrd I get a stream of xml. Likewise, going back to the original system I can dump the original file just fine. Ralph Mitchell To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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[hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script
by Andy.Farrior＠victoriacollege.edu 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

ARGH! replied to the wrong person.... must drink more coffee.... that'd do it to. I know his $msg had a bunch of quotes in it and was killing the shell. again, sorry about that. andy ________________________________ From: Sherman, Larry, GCM [mailto:Larry.Sherman at rbsgc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 8:41 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script How about $LINE = "status $hostname.ups $color $now - some Text if you want it $msg"; system("/path/to/bb $bbhost \"$LINE\" &") That's what I do -----Original Message----- From: Taylor, Robert [mailto:Robert.Taylor at HendrickAuto.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:24 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Slightly OT: External Perl Script All, This may be slightly off topic, but I figured that there is someone here that can help. Over the past weekend I wrote my first Perl script to replace a number of aging shell scripts that I had. What I have done is written Perl scripts to query Liebert UPS systems, Netbotz environment monitors and Juniper SSL VPN appliances. Needless to say I am now a believer in how much faster Perl is than shell. My scripts dropped from about almost two minutes to run to 8 seconds. I can see all of the output when I print to screen so I know that it is polling everything okay. The problem that I am having is getting Perl to send this data to Hobbit. It is just a formatting issue as I can have it send plain text fine, but I am trying to send HTML to create nice looking status pages. I have looked at previous scripts, but they all use the BigBrother.pm module and I would like to get this working without that. I am by no means a programmer but this problem is going to bother me until I can get it working. Perhaps someone could provide just a bit of Perl guidance? The portion of the code that I think it is getting hung up on is the colons in the HTML, but I am not sure. sub sendupdates { $msg = <<EOM; <html><body><center>  <table border=\"0\" align=\"center\" id=\"table1\" style=\"height: 197px; width: 649px;\"> <tbody> <tr> <th align=\"center\"> <hr width=\"100%\"></th> </tr> < snip other HTML > </center> </body> </html> EOM my $now = localtime($^T) . "\n"; if ($debug eq "yes"){ print "------------------- Time Stamp --------------------\n"; print "Time Stamp: $now\n"; print "------------------- HTML Output -------------------\n"; print $msg; } system("$bb $bbhost \"status ${bbhostname}.ups $color $now ${msg}\""); } The error messages that our output to the screen give the following: bb: incorrect number of arguments Format: <IP-ADDR> <DATA> sh: line 5: width:: command not found sh: line 13: > then there are also a lot of the following messages: sh: line 14: > </div> <table id=table2 style=width:: No such file or directory sh: line 14: height:: command not found sh: line 17: > <tbody> <tr> <th width=267style=font-weight:: command not found sh: line 17: text-align:: command not found sh: line 18: >Hostname:</th> Thanks in advance for any help. Robert Taylor To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk ________________________________ ******************************************************************* * This e-mail is intended only for the addressee named above. As this e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information, if you are not the named addressee, you are not authorized to retain, read, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. ******************************************************************* *

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Question about NOTICE in hobbit-alerts.cfg
by neil.camp＠deca.mil 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Quick question about the NOTICE tag. If I understand it right, then whenever there is a disable or enable of event, then an email would be sent? So with the following rule... HOST=* SERVICE=* NOTICE NOALERT MAIL me at you.com I should get an e-mail from any host that is either disable/enabled? If that is the case, I have enabled/disable several times, and have not been "notified" and I was wondering where I went wrong. Thanks! --neil ManTech DeCA Operations Systems Administrator (804) 734-8353 neil.camp at deca.mil

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[hobbit] Feasibility of Windows Client
by steve.aiello＠ge.com 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

That looks great to me, now you have me all excited ;) Awesome that you have put such effort into this, and I know everyone appreciates it. If there is anything I can do to assist, happy to help. -----Original Message----- From: Etienne Grignon [mailto:etienne.grignon at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:23 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Feasibility of Windows Client Hi Steve, Of course, that was one of the principal objective. Be able to keep the scripts already developped as externals for quest bbnt. You will just need to change the registry key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Quest Software\BigBrother\bbnt\ExternalPath to point to the bbwin temporary path and add the script path to the bbwin externals agents configuration which is in charge to execute the external, get the results from temporary folder and send it to the hobbit server. You will be able to develop easily native bbwin agents dll. As I said, cpu, disk and memory are written as native agents as the externals agent. It will be very powerful. People will be able to improve agents or create new one as they were already doing with externals. So, if you launch bbwin with no loading agent directive, it will do nothing :) So for bbwin, this is the recipe : - agents : native agent dll loaded and launched in a separate bbwin thread - externals : scripts or executables launched in their own process. (need the externals.dll agent loaded) Here is the sample bbwin configuration file : <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?> <configuration> <bbwin> <setting name="hostname" value="myhost" /> <setting name="bbdisplay" value="myhobbitserver.local:1984" /> <setting name="timer" value="300" /> <load name="externals" value=" externals.dll" /> <load name="uptime" value="uptime.dll" /> <load name="cpu" value="cpu.dll" /> <setting name="debuglevel" value="0" /> <setting name="logpath" value="C:\BBWin.log"/> </bbwin> <externals> <setting name="timer" value="300" /> <setting name="logstimer" value="60" /> <load name="timer" timer="300" value="timer.vbs" /> <load name="wlbs" value="wlbs.vbs" /> </externals> <cpu> <setting name="alwaysgreen" value="false" /> <setting name="warnlevel" value="90" /> <setting name="paniclevel" value="95" /> <setting name="delay" value="5" /> </cpu> <uptime> </uptime> </configuration> Tell me what do you think about it. -- Etienne 2006/3/1, Aiello, Steve (GE, Corporate, consultant) < steve.aiello at ge.com>: With your BBWin, will there be the abbility to run customs external scripts ? Alot of my existing scripts are written in VBS. -----Original Message----- From: Etienne Grignon [mailto:etienne.grignon at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:24 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Feasibility of Windows Client Hi Steve, Hi Peter, Well, with BBWin, you will be able to compile it without cygwin because I use all win32 possibilities :) And the source code of BBWin is under GPL, so no more problem :) About the hobbit protocol, the agent will be able to use data messages so, I some agents will be able to send status message used for the web page, and data message in an easier format to be able to parse it on hobbit server side. For the moment, I'm trying to get the same format than the original quest bbnt client to be able to use the existing rrd parsing scripts. Of course, in the future, we can imagine to report status and data in a similar format than the today hobbit unix client. About WMI, I will only use if I can't do it using native C++ api. For example, I have made a nice external vbs using WMI to monitor my windows wlbs (NLB) clusters because no C api was available. However, for the MSCS clusters, even if it's possible to make it with WMI, I had prefered make the external with the native C api. So, note that you will be soon be able to monitor easily the two sorts of Microsoft clusters :) These 2 probes will be integrated in the preview release. (If I have enough time, MSCS external will be released as a native bbwin agent :) ) After posting the preview release, I think I will be able to implement a new probe each 2 weeks, so I will try to work as Henrik : 1) first post the idea with my implementation idea 2) recolt all your ideas and remarks 3) merge the all and implement it If anyone has ideas about the project, don't hesitate to post or to send me directly an email :) Peter : I did't get the attached file you posted, it doesn't seem to be present -- Etienne -- Etienne GRIGNON

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[hobbit] Feasibility of Windows Client
by steve.aiello＠ge.com 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

With your BBWin, will there be the abbility to run customs external scripts ? Alot of my existing scripts are written in VBS. -----Original Message----- From: Etienne Grignon [mailto:etienne.grignon at gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:24 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Feasibility of Windows Client Hi Steve, Hi Peter, Well, with BBWin, you will be able to compile it without cygwin because I use all win32 possibilities :) And the source code of BBWin is under GPL, so no more problem :) About the hobbit protocol, the agent will be able to use data messages so, I some agents will be able to send status message used for the web page, and data message in an easier format to be able to parse it on hobbit server side. For the moment, I'm trying to get the same format than the original quest bbnt client to be able to use the existing rrd parsing scripts. Of course, in the future, we can imagine to report status and data in a similar format than the today hobbit unix client. About WMI, I will only use if I can't do it using native C++ api. For example, I have made a nice external vbs using WMI to monitor my windows wlbs (NLB) clusters because no C api was available. However, for the MSCS clusters, even if it's possible to make it with WMI, I had prefered make the external with the native C api. So, note that you will be soon be able to monitor easily the two sorts of Microsoft clusters :) These 2 probes will be integrated in the preview release. (If I have enough time, MSCS external will be released as a native bbwin agent :) ) After posting the preview release, I think I will be able to implement a new probe each 2 weeks, so I will try to work as Henrik : 1) first post the idea with my implementation idea 2) recolt all your ideas and remarks 3) merge the all and implement it If anyone has ideas about the project, don't hesitate to post or to send me directly an email :) Peter : I did't get the attached file you posted, it doesn't seem to be present -- Etienne

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