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Cause of listing for "Multi-source statuses" in "xymond" col?
by David.Mills＠hhsc.state.tx.us 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Hello... Our Xymon server (4.3.3) is getting swamped and we're trying to figure out where the pain is coming from. One thing we've observed is in the "xymond" page for the Xymon server itself, there is a *very* long listing of hosts/tests under the section titled "Multi-source statuses". Could someone tell me exactly what this section reports and what would be likely causes for entries in this section. Does inclusion in this listing imply duplicate status data is being sent to the Xymon server from these clients? The large majority of entries cite both the host in question and a corresponding "vlan" we've set up (i.e. an alternate network route using an alternate interface) on these multi-homed clients. If I'm understanding these tests as reporting statuses over both routes, to the server, don't see that could be possible... ?? Example of what we're seeing: Multi-source statuses ... pwau801:memUse reported by XXX.ZZZ.163.127 and XXX.ZZZ.120.197 pwau801:msgs reported by XXX.ZZZ.163.127 and XXX.ZZZ.120.197 pwau801:ports reported by XXX.ZZZ.163.127 and XXX.ZZZ.120.197 pwau801:procs reported by XXX.ZZZ.163.127 and XXX.ZZZ.120.197 pwau801:sar reported by XXX.ZZZ.120.197 and XXX.ZZZ.163.127 twau016:cpu reported by XXX.ZZZ.120.114 and XXX.ZZZ.160.36 twau016:disk reported by XXX.ZZZ.120.114 and XXX.ZZZ.160.36 twau016:files reported by XXX.ZZZ.120.114 and XXX.ZZZ.160.36 twau016:iostat reported by XXX.ZZZ.160.36 and XXX.ZZZ.120.114 twau016:memory reported by XXX.ZZZ.120.114 and XXX.ZZZ.160.36 twau016:memUse reported by XXX.ZZZ.163.76 and XXX.ZZZ.120.114 twau016:meta reported by XXX.ZZZ.163.76 and XXX.ZZZ.160.36 ... ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ David Mills Systems Administrator Northrop Grumman (512) 873-6665

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FW: XYMON question
by Charles.Lucas＠WorldPay.us 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

Thanks. I got past that. Now how do I get it to run. I have run the make command. What’s next? From: Scott Pfister [mailto:icepickjazz at gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:28 PM To: Charles Lucas Subject: Re: [Xymon] FW: XYMON question Charles, See http://www.perzl.org/aix/index.php?n=Main.Make It has precompiled gmake binaries for AIX 5.3 and above. Download the rpm and install on aix server and try again. On Nov 24, 2014 11:01 AM, "Charles Lucas" <Charles.Lucas at worldpay.us<mailto:Charles.Lucas at worldpay.us>> wrote: I have already installed GNU make. I’m not sure how to configure it though. I just untar’d it. Not sure what to do with GNU to get make to work: I am trying to install xymon on my AIX 7.1 server. I am getting the following error: # pwd /home/workspace/xymon/xymon-4.3.17 # ./configure Configuration script for Xymon This script asks a few questions and builds a Makefile to compile Xymon Checking your make-utility GNU make is required to build Xymon. If it is available as "gmake", run configure as: 'MAKE=gmake ./configure.server' # ./configure.client Configuration script for Xymon client This script asks a few questions and builds a Makefile to compile Xymon Checking your make-utility GNU make is required to build Xymon. If it is available as "gmake", run configure as: 'MAKE=gmake ./configure.client' # Any ideas why its failing? I have installed gcc. I have not sure how to configure it. Is there a precompiled version out there or AIX filesets for xymon? Thanks, From: Henrik Størner [mailto:henrik at hswn.dk<mailto:henrik at hswn.dk>] Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 2:15 AM To: Charles Lucas Subject: Re: XYMON question Hi Charles, please use the Xymon mailinglist - the address for that is xymon at xymon.com<mailto:xymon at xymon.com> Sounds like you need to install the GNU "make" utility. Regards, Henrik Den 20-11-2014 kl. 17:04 skrev Charles Lucas: Hi Henrik I am trying to install xymon on my AIX 7.1 server. I am getting the following error: # pwd /home/workspace/xymon/xymon-4.3.17 # ./configure Configuration script for Xymon This script asks a few questions and builds a Makefile to compile Xymon Checking your make-utility GNU make is required to build Xymon. If it is available as "gmake", run configure as: 'MAKE=gmake ./configure.server' # ./configure.client Configuration script for Xymon client This script asks a few questions and builds a Makefile to compile Xymon Checking your make-utility GNU make is required to build Xymon. If it is available as "gmake", run configure as: 'MAKE=gmake ./configure.client' # Any ideas why its failing? I have installed gcc. I have not sure how to configure it. Is there a precompiled version out there or AIX filesets for xymon? Thanks, Charles C. Lucas Sr. AIX Engineer, Infrastructure Technology T: 678-587-1722<tel:678-587-1722> | M: 803-479-0343<tel:803-479-0343> 600 Morgan Falls Road | Atlanta, GA 30350 | worldpay.com<http://www.worldpay.com/> [cid:image001.png at 01CF5985.A5F87640] Connect with us: [cid:image002.png at 01CF5985.A5F87640]<https://www.facebook.com/Worldpay.us> [cid:image003.png at 01CF5985.A5F87640] <http://www.youtube.com/worldpayus> [cid:image004.png at 01CF5985.A5F87640] <https://twitter.com/worldpay_US> [cid:image006.png at 01CF5985.A5F87640] <https://plus.google.com/+WorldpayUs/> [cid:image007.png at 01CF5985.A5F87640] <http://www.linkedin.com/company/worldpay-> CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION NOTICE. The information contained in this email message is confidential and proprietary and is intended solely for the use of the addressee. Any unauthorized dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is expressly prohibited. If you have received this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and any attachments. _______________________________________________ Xymon mailing list Xymon at xymon.com<mailto:Xymon at xymon.com> http://lists.xymon.com/mailman/listinfo/xymon

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Monitor Salesforce?
by kspringer＠innovateteam.com 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

I ran across an older post on the message board about a script to monitor the Salesforce system status page at http://trust.salesforce.com/trust/status/ and check a specific instance for the green checkmark. There was a script that someone made but it wasn't attached. Does anyone have a functioning version of a sript that will do this? Here's the older message board post. http://lists.xymon.com/pipermail/xymon/2011-May/031668.html Signature - Kris Thank you. ------------------------------------------------ Kris Springer

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Building a new server - part 2
by everett.vernon＠gmail.com 01 Dec '14

01 Dec '14

OK, I was correct about the library packages. Once I installed them, it resolved most of my problems, and the configure script completed OK. On to the make. (Or gmake in my case) And we hit the next hurdle. gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-unused -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DSunOS -I/var/tmp/xymon-4.3.17/include -I/opt/csw/include -o xymonnet xymonnet.o contest.o httptest.o httpresult.o ldaptest.o dns.o dns2.o httpcookies.o -L -lcares -L/opt/csw/lib -lldap -llber ../lib/libxymontime.a -lrt ../lib/libxymoncomm.a -L/usr/sfw/lib -lssl -lcrypto -lresolv -lsocket -lnsl -lrt ../lib/libxymon.a -L/opt/csw/lib -lpcre Undefined first referenced symbol in file ares_process dns.o ares_gethostbyname dns.o ares_strerror dns.o ares_init_options dns.o ares_search dns.o ares_fds dns.o ares_destroy dns.o ares_timeout dns.o ares_expand_name dns2.o ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xymonnet collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Makefile:33: recipe for target 'xymonnet' failed gmake[1]: *** [xymonnet] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory '/var/tmp/xymon-4.3.17/xymonnet' build/Makefile.rules:102: recipe for target 'xymonnet-build' failed gmake: *** [xymonnet-build] Error 2 Any ideas? Regards Vernon -- "Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory" - General George Patton

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Subjectline shows red status, body green status
by hj.beckers＠kreis-steinfurt.de 28 Nov '14

28 Nov '14

I just received a xymon alert with the subject line: Xymon [530795] xxx.yyy.de:smtp CRITICAL (RED) but the message body shows: "green Fri Nov 28 12:01:26 2014 smtp ok Service smtp on xxx.yyy.de is OK (up) 220 xxx.yyy Mail Gateway ready Seconds: 0.00 See ..." My rrd-status.log contains some "bug"-messages regarding this server: 2014-04-28 16:10:19 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1398694219, different data 2014-09-30 13:46:46 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1412077606, different data 2014-11-26 12:23:52 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417001031, different data 2014-11-26 12:23:52 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.smtp.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417001031, different data 2014-11-26 14:54:46 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417010086, different data 2014-11-27 01:18:24 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417047503, different data 2014-11-27 08:31:01 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417073461, different data 2014-11-27 20:15:26 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417115726, different data 2014-11-27 22:36:20 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417124180, different data 2014-11-27 23:41:50 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417128110, different data 2014-11-28 00:17:07 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417130226, different data 2014-11-28 01:27:33 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417134452, different data 2014-11-28 06:44:36 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417153476, different data 2014-11-28 09:25:30 xxx.yyy.de/tcp.conn.rrd: Bug - duplicate RRD data with same timestamp 1417163130, different data there is only 1 entry for the smtp.rrd file, all others are for the conn-test. Any hints? Hermann-Josef Beckers

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Fwd: Building a new server - part 2
by everett.vernon＠gmail.com 28 Nov '14

28 Nov '14

Forgot to include the list. Of course, refering to my notes, I have hit (and worked around) that issue before. mv /usr/ccs/bin/ld /usr/ccs/bin/ld.orig And we get further, but not much. gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-unused -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DSunOS -I/var/tmp/xymon-4.3.17/include -I/opt/csw/include -I/opt/csw/include -DRRDTOOL12 -I/opt/csw/include -c -o perfdata.o perfdata.c In file included from perfdata.c:20: /usr/local/lib/gcc/i386-pc-solaris2.10/3.4.6/include/math.h:26:26: iso/math_iso.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/local/lib/gcc/i386-pc-solaris2.10/3.4.6/include/math.h:336, from perfdata.c:20: /usr/local/lib/gcc/i386-pc-solaris2.10/3.4.6/include/floatingpoint.h:30:24: sys/ieeefp.h: No such file or directory In file included from /usr/local/lib/gcc/i386-pc-solaris2.10/3.4.6/include/math.h:336, from perfdata.c:20: /usr/local/lib/gcc/i386-pc-solaris2.10/3.4.6/include/floatingpoint.h:104: error: field `fpclass' has incomplete type /usr/local/lib/gcc/i386-pc-solaris2.10/3.4.6/include/floatingpoint.h:128: error: field `rd' has incomplete type Makefile:130: recipe for target 'perfdata.o' failed gmake[1]: *** [perfdata.o] Error 1 gmake[1]: Leaving directory '/var/tmp/xymon-4.3.17/web' build/Makefile.rules:111: recipe for target 'web-build' failed gmake: *** [web-build] Error 2 On 28 November 2014 at 10:24, Vernon Everett <everett.vernon at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Roland > > Thanks for the quick response. > > I have built Xymon on Solaris many times too, and agree, it should just > work. > I did find something interesting just a minute ago. > Looking through the Makefile, to check what it's looking for, and notices > something odd about the c-ares definitions. See below. > Notice the CARESLIBS has no directory defined after the -L > I changed that to CARESLIBS = -L/opt/csw/lib -lcares > And we moved on. > Only to hit another one. > gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-unused -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE > -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DSunOS -I/var/tmp/xymon-4.3.17/include > -I/opt/csw/include -I/opt/csw/include -I/opt/csw/include -DRRDTOOL12 -c -o > do_rrd.o do_rrd.c > gcc -o xymond_rrd xymond_rrd.o xymond_worker.o do_rrd.o > client_config.o ../lib/libxymontime.a -lrt ../lib/libxymoncomm.a > -L/usr/sfw/lib -lssl -lcrypto -lresolv -lsocket -lnsl -lrt -L/opt/csw/lib > -lrrd -L/opt/csw/lib -lpcre > Undefined first referenced > symbol in file > XRenderCreateLinearGradient /opt/csw/lib/libcairo.so.2 > XRenderCreateRadialGradient /opt/csw/lib/libcairo.so.2 > XRenderCreateSolidFill /opt/csw/lib/libcairo.so.2 > ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xymond_rrd > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > Makefile:62: recipe for target 'xymond_rrd' failed > gmake[1]: *** [xymond_rrd] Error 1 > gmake[1]: Leaving directory '/var/tmp/xymon-4.3.17/xymond' > build/Makefile.rules:108: recipe for target 'xymond-build' failed > gmake: *** [xymond-build] Error 2 > > My next Xymon install will be on Linux! > No exceptions! > > --- snip --- > > # C-ARES settings > SYSTEMCARES = yes > CARESINCDIR = -I/opt/csw/include > *CARESLIBS = -L -lcares* > RPATHVAL += > > # PCRE settings > PCREINCDIR = -I/opt/csw/include > PCRELIBS = -L/opt/csw/lib -lpcre > RPATHVAL += /opt/csw/lib > > # RRDtool settings > RRDDEF = -DRRDTOOL12 > RRDINCDIR = -I/opt/csw/include > RRDLIBS = -L/opt/csw/lib -lrrd > RPATHVAL += /opt/csw/lib > DORRD = yes > # > # OpenSSL settings > SSLFLAGS = -DHAVE_OPENSSL -DHAVE_SSLV2_SUPPORT > SSLINCDIR = -I/opt/csw/include > SSLLIBS = -L/usr/sfw/lib -lssl -lcrypto > RPATHVAL += /usr/sfw/lib > DOSSL = yes > > --- snip --- > > > > On 28 November 2014 at 10:07, Roland Soderstrom < > Rolands at logicaltech.com.au> wrote: > >> I’ve compiled 4.3.17 on Solaris Sparc and x86 with OpenCSW, so it >> should work. >> >> >> >> This is roughly what I do. >> >> pkgutil -y -i coreutils >> >> pkgutil -y -i gzip >> >> pkgutil -y -i wget >> >> pkgutil -y -a berkeleydb48 >> >> pkgutil -y -i freetype >> >> pkgutil -y -i libart >> >> pkgutil -y -i libpng15_15 >> >> pkgutil -y -i libtool >> >> pkgutil -i -y gcc4core gcc4g++ gmake >> >> pkgutil -i -y pcre libpcre_dev >> >> pkgutil -i -y rrdtool rrdtool_dev >> >> pkgutil -i -y openssl libssl_dev >> >> pkgutil -i -y openldap_client openldap_dev >> >> pkgutil -i -y fping >> >> >> >> export PATH=/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/opt/csw/bin:/opt/csw/sbin:/usr/ccs/bin >> >> >> >> Make SURE /usr/local/<something> or /usr/sfw/<something> is not in any >> path. >> >> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=”” >> >> crle >> >> >> >> which gmake >> >> /opt/csw/bin/gmake >> >> which ld >> >> /usr/ccs/bin/ld >> >> MAKE=gmake ; /configure >> >> gmake >> >> >> >> - Roland >> >> >> >> *From:* Xymon [mailto:xymon-bounces at xymon.com] *On Behalf Of *Vernon >> Everett >> *Sent:* Friday, 28 November 2014 12:18 PM >> *To:* Xymon mailinglist >> *Subject:* [Xymon] Building a new server - part 2 >> >> >> >> OK, I was correct about the library packages. >> >> Once I installed them, it resolved most of my problems, and the configure >> script completed OK. >> >> On to the make. (Or gmake in my case) >> And we hit the next hurdle. >> gcc -g -O2 -Wall -Wno-unused -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE >> -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -DSunOS -I/var/tmp/xymon-4.3.17/include >> -I/opt/csw/include -o xymonnet xymonnet.o contest.o httptest.o >> httpresult.o ldaptest.o dns.o dns2.o httpcookies.o -L -lcares >> -L/opt/csw/lib -lldap -llber ../lib/libxymontime.a -lrt >> ../lib/libxymoncomm.a -L/usr/sfw/lib -lssl -lcrypto -lresolv -lsocket >> -lnsl -lrt ../lib/libxymon.a -L/opt/csw/lib -lpcre >> Undefined first referenced >> symbol in file >> ares_process dns.o >> ares_gethostbyname dns.o >> ares_strerror dns.o >> ares_init_options dns.o >> ares_search dns.o >> ares_fds dns.o >> ares_destroy dns.o >> ares_timeout dns.o >> ares_expand_name dns2.o >> ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to xymonnet >> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status >> Makefile:33: recipe for target 'xymonnet' failed >> gmake[1]: *** [xymonnet] Error 1 >> gmake[1]: Leaving directory '/var/tmp/xymon-4.3.17/xymonnet' >> build/Makefile.rules:102: recipe for target 'xymonnet-build' failed >> gmake: *** [xymonnet-build] Error 2 >> >> Any ideas? >> >> Regards >> Vernon >> >> -- >> >> "Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory" >> >> - General George Patton >> > > > > -- > "Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory" > - General George Patton > -- "Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory" - General George Patton -- "Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory" - General George Patton

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Building a new Server
by everett.vernon＠gmail.com 27 Nov '14

27 Nov '14

Hi all Trying to build a new server. And not having much luck. MAKE=gmake ./configure.server MAKE=gmake ./configure.server --pcreinclude /opt/csw/include/ --pcrelib /opt/csw/lib/pkgconfig/ and MAKE=gmake ./configure.server --pcreinclude /opt/csw/include/ --pcrelib /opt/csw/lib/ all give the exact same result below. + uname -s OS=SunOS In file included from test-pcre.c:1: /opt/csw/include/pcre.h:90:20: stdlib.h: No such file or directory In file included from test-pcre.c:1: /opt/csw/include/pcre.h:489: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration /opt/csw/include/pcre.h:491: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration /opt/csw/include/pcre.h:496: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration /opt/csw/include/pcre.h:498: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration /opt/csw/include/pcre.h:503: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration /opt/csw/include/pcre.h:505: warning: parameter names (without types) in function declaration test-pcre.c: In function `main': test-pcre.c:8: error: `NULL' undeclared (first use in this function) test-pcre.c:8: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once test-pcre.c:8: error: for each function it appears in.) Makefile.test-pcre:4: recipe for target 'test-compile' failed gmake: *** [test-compile] Error 1 + test 2 -eq 0 + echo ERROR: Cannot compile using PCRE library. ERROR: Cannot compile using PCRE library. PCREOK=NO + gmake -f Makefile.test-pcre test-link PCRELIB=-L/opt/csw/lib + sed -es@/@_ at g + uname -s OS=SunOS gcc: test-pcre.o: No such file or directory Makefile.test-pcre:7: recipe for target 'test-link' failed gmake: *** [test-link] Error 1 + test 2 -eq 0 + echo ERROR: Cannot link with PCRE library. ERROR: Cannot link with PCRE library. PCREOK=NO + gmake -f Makefile.test-pcre clean + sed -es@/@_ at g + uname -s OS=SunOS + cd .. + test NO = NO + echo Missing PCRE include- or library-files. These are REQUIRED for xymond Missing PCRE include- or library-files. These are REQUIRED for xymond + echo PCRE can be found at http://www.pcre.org/ PCRE can be found at http://www.pcre.org/ + echo If you have PCRE installed, use the "--pcreinclude DIR" and "--pcrelib DIR" If you have PCRE installed, use the "--pcreinclude DIR" and "--pcrelib DIR" + echo options to configure to specify where they are. options to configure to specify where they are. + exit 1 Have the following pcre related packages installed. bash-3.00# pkgutil -l | grep -i pcre CSWlibpcre-dev CSWlibpcre0 CSWlibpcre1 CSWlibpcre16-0 CSWlibpcre32-0 CSWlibpcrecpp0 CSWlibpcreposix0 CSWpcre CSWpcrert What's missing here? -- "Accept the challenges so that you can feel the exhilaration of victory" - General George Patton

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graphs that use multiple RRD files as input
by sgb＠pics.com 27 Nov '14

27 Nov '14

I have a graph setup on a custom test that is using multiple RRD files as input. The graph is working but it is combining all the RRDs into a single graph instead of splitting them up like the built in "disk" graphs. Is there a parameter missing in my graphs.cfg definition or some other place I need to modify in order to have Xymon automatically split the graph up into multiple graphs? Thanks Steve [DBAreas] FNPATTERN DBAreas,(.*).rrd TITLE Area Size YAXIS KB DEF:kba at RRDIDX@=@RRDFN@:kbarea:AVERAGE LINE3:kba at RRDIDX@#@COLOR@:Area at RRDPARAM@ GPRINT:kba at RRDIDX@:LAST: \: %5.1lf (cur) GPRINT:kba at RRDIDX@:MAX: \: %5.1lf (max) GPRINT:kba at RRDIDX@:MIN: \: %5.1lf (min) GPRINT:kba at RRDIDX@:AVERAGE: \: %5.1lf (avg)\n [cid:image001.png at 01D009CD.379965D0] Disk splits into more than 1 graph [cid:image002.png at 01D009CD.C8E83070]

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Monitoring sql server 2012 - Error - Length specified in network packet payload did not match number of bytes read
by anoopw14＠gmail.com 26 Nov '14

26 Nov '14

Hello, I am trying to implement an Sql server 2012 monitoring script. Installed the dbcheck.pl script from this link : http://sourceforge.net/projects/hobbit-perl-cl/ . While running I am getting an error. Sql server log : "Length specified in network packet payload did not match number of bytes read; the connection has been closed. Please contact the vendor of the client library. [CLIENT: XXXXXXXXx]" xymon log : ERROR on 192.168.1.1 : Timeout connecting to DBI:Sybase:host=192.168.1.1;port=1433;encryptPassword=1! Can anybody please help me to resolve this error ? Thanks Anoop

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AD connectivity / performance test
by abs＠shadymint.com 26 Nov '14

26 Nov '14

Hi, Is anyone carrying out any monitoring (local or remote) of Windows Domain Controllers? If I were to carry out a remote LDAPS test to retrieve an OU would the success and connection time for that transaction be a good indicator of 'user experience' ? I see some monitors on Xymonton looking at the output from DCDIAG.EXE but these will require BBWin or equivalent to be installed and I probably wont get that authorized and VBS is not well known to me anyway. Thanks -- Andy

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