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[hobbit] Newbie install questions
by nfigaro＠effigie.fr 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

You need the rrd include files, bu I'm not sure thoseones are shipped with your rpm. The rrdinclude should be something like /usr/include. Check if you can find a rrd.h file in /usr find /usr -name rrd.h -print I don't know if there is an faq. But you can search the mailing list archives, in case someone had the same problem before : http://www.hswn.dk/hobbiton/ Nicolas Figaro -----Message d'origine----- De : richard kennard [mailto:richard.kennard at oxfordgenomesciences.com] Envoyé : mardi 12 juillet 2005 17:58 À : hobbit at hswn.dk Objet : [hobbit] Newbie install questions Dear All, Please forgive what (no doubt) will be very noddy level questions! I'm running fedora core 4, and am trying to install hobbit. I've installed rrd using the rpm (rrdtool-1.0.49-5.fc4.i386.rpm) and it /appears/ to have installed. When I attempt to run ./configure I get: Checking for RRDtool ... RRDtool include- or library-files not found. These are REQUIRED for hobbitd RRDtool can be found at http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/ If you have RRDtool installed, use the "--rrdinclude DIR" and "--rrdlib DIR" options to configure to specify where they are. When I add the rrinclude and rrdlib lines (pointing to /usr/bin and user/lib respectively) I get: Checking for RRDtool ... test-rrd.c:3:17: error: rrd.h: No such file or directory test-rrd.c: In function ÔÇÿmainÔÇÖ: test-rrd.c:26: warning: implicit declaration of function ÔÇÿrrd_clear_errorÔÇÖ test-rrd.c:30: warning: implicit declaration of function ÔÇÿrrd_graphÔÇÖ make: *** [test-compile] Error 1 Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x test-rrd.c:3:17: error: rrd.h: No such file or directory test-rrd.c: In function ÔÇÿmainÔÇÖ: test-rrd.c:26: warning: implicit declaration of function ÔÇÿrrd_clear_errorÔÇÖ test-rrd.c:28: warning: implicit declaration of function ÔÇÿrrd_graphÔÇÖ make: *** [test-compile] Error 1 ERROR: RRDtool include files found in /usr/bin, but compile fails. Any advice would be much appeciated! Also, is there an FAQ or archive somewhere? Cheers! Richard To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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Newbie install questions
by richard.kennard＠oxfordgenomesciences.com 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Dear All, Please forgive what (no doubt) will be very noddy level questions! I'm running fedora core 4, and am trying to install hobbit. I've installed rrd using the rpm (rrdtool-1.0.49-5.fc4.i386.rpm) and it /appears/ to have installed. When I attempt to run ./configure I get: Checking for RRDtool ... RRDtool include- or library-files not found. These are REQUIRED for hobbitd RRDtool can be found at http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool/ If you have RRDtool installed, use the "--rrdinclude DIR" and "--rrdlib DIR" options to configure to specify where they are. When I add the rrinclude and rrdlib lines (pointing to /usr/bin and user/lib respectively) I get: Checking for RRDtool ... test-rrd.c:3:17: error: rrd.h: No such file or directory test-rrd.c: In function ÔÇÿmainÔÇÖ: test-rrd.c:26: warning: implicit declaration of function ÔÇÿrrd_clear_errorÔÇÖ test-rrd.c:30: warning: implicit declaration of function ÔÇÿrrd_graphÔÇÖ make: *** [test-compile] Error 1 Not RRDtool 1.0.x, checking for 1.2.x test-rrd.c:3:17: error: rrd.h: No such file or directory test-rrd.c: In function ÔÇÿmainÔÇÖ: test-rrd.c:26: warning: implicit declaration of function ÔÇÿrrd_clear_errorÔÇÖ test-rrd.c:28: warning: implicit declaration of function ÔÇÿrrd_graphÔÇÖ make: *** [test-compile] Error 1 ERROR: RRDtool include files found in /usr/bin, but compile fails. Any advice would be much appeciated! Also, is there an FAQ or archive somewhere? Cheers! Richard

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Trends Graphs
by Robert.Taylor＠HendrickAuto.com 12 Jul '05

12 Jul '05

Henrik, I have written a custom test to poll our Netbotz Wallbotz for the temperature, humidity and dewpoint of our locations. They report fine into hobbit and I have managed to get their graphs into the trends page. My question is: Every Wallbotz test will produce the same three graphs of information. Is there anyway to tell Hobbit that whenever there is a Netbotz column to automatically put the three graphs on the trends page? Right now I have to add the separate tests in the bb-hosts file through the use of the LARRDS: option, but would simply like to have these appear on their own. I have included a snip of my bb-hosts file as an example as well as my hobbitgraph.cfg file. I poured through some of the older emails as well as the manual, but didn't find any concrete. I suspect that if this is possible I would need to modify the source code to educate Hobbit about the Netbotz. Thanks, Robert BB-Hosts 10.1.1.1 hostname.domainname # testip netbotz LARRD:*,netbotz:netbotz|netbotz1|netbotz2 hobbitgraph.cfg [netbotz] TITLE Temperature YAXIS Farenheit --alt-autoscale DEF:temp=netbotz.rrd:temperature:AVERAGE LINE1:temp#CC3333:Temperature GPRINT:temp:LAST: \: %10.2lf F (cur) GPRINT:temp:MIN: \: %10.2lf F (min) GPRINT:temp:MAX: \: %10.2lf F (max)\n [netbotz1] TITLE Humidity YAXIS Percentage --alt-autoscale DEF:humidity=netbotz.rrd:humidity:AVERAGE LINE1:humidity#3366CC:Humidity GPRINT:humidity:LAST: \: %10.2lf %% (cur) GPRINT:humidity:MIN: \: %10.2lf %% (min) GPRINT:humidity:MAX: \: %10.2lf %% (max)\n [netbotz2] TITLE Dewpoint YAXIS Farenheit --alt-autoscale DEF:def1=netbotz.rrd:dewpoint:AVERAGE LINE1:def1#CC3333:Dewpoint GPRINT:def1:LAST: \: %10.2lf F (cur) GPRINT:def1:MIN: \: %10.2lf F (min) GPRINT:def1:MAX: \: %10.2lf F (max)\n

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[hobbit] Status Unavailable - again
by ReifJefferyM＠JohnDeere.com 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

This is a shot in the dark - I had a lockup problem on a BB system where the kernel was compiled with a different version compiler than was included with the system and there were some IPC-related changes in compiler versions. -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Loos [mailto:stefan_loos at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 7:12 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again Hi Henrik, we have several own-written scripts (mostly in perl) which monitor oracle instances, bea weblogic servers. There is one for hardware monitoring - HP (Intel) and Sun Servers (prtdiag based) and some are just the output of a http request to the software running on that weblogic servers. I have just one server for testing, it's a HP DL 360. We are running Redhat Enterprise Server 3 but I've tried it with a SuSE 9.3 too. Regards, Stefan >From: henrik at hswn.dk (Henrik Stoerner) >Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk >To: hobbit at hswn.dk >Subject: Re: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again >Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:08:59 +0200 > >Hi Stefan, > >On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 09:36:42AM +0000, Stefan Loos wrote: > > It would be great if you can put me in cc. If you want I can try to assist > > you. I'm at a point where I don't know what to try anymore. I think it > > isn't easy for Henrik to find this issue - I have no coredumps and nothing > > in the logfile what could help. > >Yes, this is a really nasty problem. Vernon and I though we had it >nailed down by the end of last week, but there's more to it than >what we found then. > >What kind of external scripts run on your clients, apart from the BB >client ? The current suspicion is that this is triggered by a status >message that is handled badly by Hobbit causing this lock-up. So I'm >trying to see if there might be something in common between your setups. > >And what kind of system are you running Hobbit on ? If Linux, which >distribution ? Another suspicion I have is that this might be a >problem with the implementation of SysV IPC semaphores. > > >Regards, >Henrik > &gt ; >To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to >hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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[hobbit] Status Unavailable - again
by ReifJefferyM＠JohnDeere.com 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Stefan, I don't know if this is your problem. I just suggested it as a possibility for you to consider. I originally saw random lockups on a BB system after upgrading from Redhat 7 to (8 or 9, I don't remember). I thought this might be possible on other versions or distributions as well. The solution in my case was to either: 1) Down-grade the compiler to match the OS . 2) Recompile the kernel. 3) Change OS versions (sounds like you may have tried this). I hope this helps in some way. Good luck on your problem. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Loos [mailto:stefan_loos at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:24 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again Hello Jeffery, do you think we see this issue because the kernel was built with a different compiler than I was using for building the hobbit server? @Henrik - do you think this could be the problem? Regards, Stefan >From: "Reif Jeffery M" <ReifJefferyM at JohnDeere.com> >Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk >To: hobbit at hswn.dk >Subject: RE: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again >Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 07:20:12 -0500 > >This is a shot in the dark - I had a lockup problem on a BB system where >the kernel was compiled with a different version compiler than was >included with the system and there were some IPC-related changes in >compiler versions. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Stefan Loos [mailto:stefan_loos at hotmail.com] >Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 7:12 AM >To: hobbit at hswn.dk >Subject: Re: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again > >Hi Henrik, > >we have several own-written scripts (mostly in perl) which monitor >oracle >instances, bea weblogic servers. There is one for hardware monitoring - >HP >(Intel) and Sun Servers (prtdiag based) and some are just the output of >a >http request to the software running on that weblogic servers. >I have just one server for testing, it's a HP DL 360. We are running >Redhat >Enterprise Server 3 but I've tried it with a SuSE 9.3 too. > >Regards, > >Stefan > > &gt;From: henrik at hswn.dk (Henrik Stoerner) &gt;Reply-To: >hobbit at hswn.dk &amp ;gt;To: hobbit at hswn.dk &gt;Subject: Re: [hobbit] >Status >Unavailable - again &gt;Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 13:08:59 >+0200 &gt; &gt;Hi Stefan, &gt; &gt;On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at >09:36:42AM +0000, Stefan Loos wrote: &gt; &gt; It would be great if >you >can put me in cc. If you want I can try to assist &gt; &gt; you. I'm >at a >point where I don't know what to try anymore. I think it &gt; &gt; >isn't >easy for Henrik to find this issue - I have no coredumps and >nothing &gt; >&gt; in the logfile what could help. &gt; &gt;Yes, this is a >really >nasty problem. Vernon and I though we had it &gt;nailed down by the >end >of last week, but there's more to it than &gt;what we found >then. &gt; &gt;What kind of external scripts run on your clients, >apart from the BB &gt;client ? The current suspicion is that this is >triggered by a status &gt;message that is handled badly by Hobbit >causing >this lock-up. So I'm &gt;trying to see if there might be something in > >common between your setups. &gt; &gt;And what kind of system are >you >running Hobbit on ? If Linux, which &gt;distribution ? Another >suspicion >I have is that this might be a &gt;problem with the implementation of > >SysV IPC >semaphores. &gt; &gt; &amp ;gt;Regards, &gt;Henrik &gt; &gt >; &gt;To >unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail >to &gt;hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk &a mp;gt; &gt; > > > >To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to >hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > > > > >To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to >hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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[hobbit] Status Unavailable - again
by v.everett＠afgonline.com.au 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

English has no shame. It will borrow beg or steal words from any language :-) Mensch, was taken from Yiddish - A hybrid of old German and Hebrew.

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[hobbit] Status Unavailable - again
by v.everett＠afgonline.com.au 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Yep. I did. Between myself and Henrik, we have tried a number of versions, and a few special diagnostic versions of Hobbit. We have been working mostly off-list because we have been exchanging potentially confidential information, and don't believe that our failure to diagnose a problem is of general interest. (I am sure a full account of this sad tale will be posted once it is resolved.) Kudos to Henrik though. I think he has really tried. He has worked tirelessly to try and resolve this issue, which I believe is very admirable, when you consider his reward for all this hard work. Henrik is a true mensch. (Yes, that's an English word. Look it up) So far, we have not been able to identify the root cause of the problem. Henrik was going to have a look at some of the messages that came from one of the hosts, and get back to me. Stefan, if you are interested in assisting us with this, then myself and Henrik can cc you in our off-list exchanges. Have you got any theories as to the cause? Regards Vernon -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Loos [mailto:stefan_loos at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 11 July 2005 4:21 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again did you use the hobbitd from the snapshot? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.

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[hobbit] Status Unavailable - again
by v.everett＠afgonline.com.au 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

Try http://www.onelook.com/?w=mensch&ls=a :-) Once Hobbit hangs, it refuses to core. The only thing that will clobber it, is a kill -9 When it hangs, it hangs good. The logs are devoid of useful info too. Even with the latest build. This is probably the most frustrating issue I have ever seen. Regards Vernon -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Loos [mailto:stefan_loos at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 11 July 2005 5:37 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: RE: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again It would be great if you can put me in cc. If you want I can try to assist you. I'm at a point where I don't know what to try anymore. I think it isn't easy for Henrik to find this issue - I have no coredumps and nothing in the logfile what could help. And I never had any doubt that Henrik does a great job! (I think my English is not good enough to say it in other words) So if there is anything what I can do to solve this problem.... I've tried to lookup "mensch" but I think I'm using the wrong sites - german english dictionaries always recognize mensch as a german word ;-) Regards, Stefan >From: "Vernon Everett" <v.everett at afgonline.com.au> >Reply-To: hobbit at hswn.dk >To: <hobbit at hswn.dk> >Subject: RE: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again >Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 16:37:28 +0800 > >Yep. >I did. >Between myself and Henrik, we have tried a number of versions, and a few >special diagnostic versions of Hobbit. >We have been working mostly off-list because we have been exchanging >potentially confidential information, and don't believe that our failure >to diagnose a problem is of general interest. (I am sure a full account >of this sad tale will be posted once it is resolved.) > >Kudos to Henrik though. >I think he has really tried. He has worked tirelessly to try and resolve >this issue, which I believe is very admirable, when you consider his >reward for all this hard work. >Henrik is a true mensch. (Yes, that's an English word. Look it up) > >So far, we have not been able to identify the root cause of the problem. >Henrik was going to have a look at some of the messages that came from >one of the hosts, and get back to me. > >Stefan, if you are interested in assisting us with this, then myself and >Henrik can cc you in our off-list exchanges. > >Have you got any theories as to the cause? > >Regards > Vernon > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Stefan Loos [mailto:stefan_loos at hotmail.com] >Sent: Monday, 11 July 2005 4:21 PM >To: hobbit at hswn.dk >Subject: RE: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again > >did you use the hobbitd from the snapshot? > > >_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > >NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material >of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the >addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, >distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached >to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any >unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or >contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888. > > >To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to >hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk > > To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.

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[hobbit] Re: purple/clear problems?!
by henrik＠hswn.dk 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

It's been a while, but I'm trying to get around to this: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 05:16:37PM +0200, Peter Welter wrote: > > At 14:01 cpu, procs, msgs, disk went purple. > At 14:02 cpu, procs, msgs, disk went clear. > At 14:06 cpu, procs, msgs, disk went purple. > At 14:06 cpu, procs, msgs, disk went clear. > Perhaps I should add the following info: the Hobbit server gets it's > data from a Big Brother server Are you running the BBDISPLAY part of Big Brother ? That could explain the purples, because a BBDISPLAY server will send out status messages to change a color to purple - Hobbit doesn't, that's handled internally in the hobbit daemon. Regards, Henrik

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[hobbit] Status Unavailable - again
by v.everett＠afgonline.com.au 11 Jul '05

11 Jul '05

I am still here, and still having major problems :-( I thought we had isolated the problem to messages from a particular monitored client, but after a few hours of smooth running, with messages from that client disabled, it failed again. Regards Vernon -----Original Message----- From: Stefan Loos [mailto:stefan_loos at hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, 11 July 2005 3:49 PM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] Status Unavailable - again Hello Henrik, after the server runs for a few days the error came back (even with the hobbitd of the snapshot-version you gave me). It would be interesting to hear from Vernon if his server still has this problem.... Regards, Stefan To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ NOTICE: This message and any attachments are confidential and may contain copyright material of Australian Finance Group Limited or a third party. It is intended solely for the purpose of the addressee and any other named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, distribution, disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. The confidentiality attached to this message is not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken transmission or delivery to any unintended party. If you have received this message in error, please notify the author immediately or contact Australian Finance Group on +61 8 9420 7888.

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