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[hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
by pwilliamson＠mandtbank.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Yeah, my pride took one on the chin for this. It's ok, I use three AIX 5.1 BBNET servers. I decided to request an intel box and run FC4 on it. RRDTool seems to be much happier on it or Solaris. At the time though, I had been running 4.3.3 and installed stuff from both Bull and the IBM Linux toolkit. Paul >>> JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com 12/19/05 9:57 AM >>> Paul, I spent about three weeks trying to compile all the various tools and libraries and never could get rrdtool to work. Yesterday I gave up and downloaded these binaries from Bull (a couple of them came from elsewhere, I think) and installed them. Now it works like a charm! Python-2.1.1.0.exe cgilib-0.5.0.1.exe fping-2.2.1.0.exe freetype-2.0.1.0.exe gd-1.8.4.0.exe jpeg-6.0.2.0.exe libpng-1.0.9.0.exe rrdtool-1.0.33.0.exe tcl-8.2.3.0.exe top-3.4.0.0.exe xpm-3.4.11.0.exe zlib-1.1.4.0.exe Of course, I still had to install GCC, Gnumake, and some other bits and pieces. I should have given up sooner, but it was a point of pride. My pride lost. <grin> By the way, I'm on AIX 4.3.3. Jim Smith

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[hobbit] RE : [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
by JMSmith＠stvincenthealth.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Thanks! ________________________________ From: FIGARO Nicolas [mailto:nfigaro at effigie.fr] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:43 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] RE : [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit there is a difference between the big brother and the hobbit rrd directory structure. so : - backup your rrd files - run the moverrd.sh script attached with this mail (it was shipped with some versions of hobbit). - if it still doesn't work, try a rrdtool dump from solaris, then moverrd. sh (you have to patch the moverrd.sh to move the generated xmls), then rrdtool restore. you'll probably have to dump/restore if you're using different rrdtools (different versions). I found a moverrdxml.sh, which should include the xml move and rrd restore. take a look at this one as it may help also. Nicolas Figaro -----Message d'origine----- De : Smith, Jim [mailto:JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com] Envoyé : lundi 19 décembre 2005 15:27 À : hobbit at hswn.dk Objet : [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system. NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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[hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
by JMSmith＠stvincenthealth.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Paul, I spent about three weeks trying to compile all the various tools and libraries and never could get rrdtool to work. Yesterday I gave up and downloaded these binaries from Bull (a couple of them came from elsewhere, I think) and installed them. Now it works like a charm! Python-2.1.1.0.exe cgilib-0.5.0.1.exe fping-2.2.1.0.exe freetype-2.0.1.0.exe gd-1.8.4.0.exe jpeg-6.0.2.0.exe libpng-1.0.9.0.exe rrdtool-1.0.33.0.exe tcl-8.2.3.0.exe top-3.4.0.0.exe xpm-3.4.11.0.exe zlib-1.1.4.0.exe Of course, I still had to install GCC, Gnumake, and some other bits and pieces. I should have given up sooner, but it was a point of pride. My pride lost. <grin> By the way, I'm on AIX 4.3.3. Jim Smith -----Original Message----- From: PAUL WILLIAMSON [mailto:pwilliamson at mandtbank.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:35 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit 1. Don't do it. 2. If you must, first verify all RRDTool functionality is present. I attempted the same procedure about a year ago and I could not get RRDTool 1.x working on AIX because of some oddball problem with the shared objects and the perl module. 3. Finally, to answer your question, yes, you need to dump the RRDTool databases to XML (use rrddump) and copy the resulting files over to your AIX box then use rrdrestore to get them into the format for AIX. Paul >>> JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com 12/19/05 9:27 AM >>> Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system. To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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[hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
by nfigaro＠effigie.fr 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

there is a difference between the big brother and the hobbit rrd directory structure. so : - backup your rrd files - run the moverrd.sh script attached with this mail (it was shipped with some versions of hobbit). - if it still doesn't work, try a rrdtool dump from solaris, then moverrd. sh (you have to patch the moverrd.sh to move the generated xmls), then rrdtool restore. you'll probably have to dump/restore if you're using different rrdtools (different versions). I found a moverrdxml.sh, which should include the xml move and rrd restore. take a look at this one as it may help also. Nicolas Figaro -----Message d'origine----- De : Smith, Jim [mailto:JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com] Envoyé : lundi 19 décembre 2005 15:27 À : hobbit at hswn.dk Objet : [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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Big Bro TO Hobbit
by JMSmith＠stvincenthealth.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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[hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
by JMSmith＠stvincenthealth.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Thanks! I saw those commands in the docs but it sounded too easy. I'll give it a whirl. -----Original Message----- From: Frédéric Mangeant [mailto:frederic.mangeant at steria.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:33 AM To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: Re: [hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit Smith, Jim a écrit : > *Greetings!* > ** > *I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the > old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from > Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file > structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do > I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin>* > ** > *This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since > many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a > good place to start.* > ** Hi Jim you'll have to dump / restore your RRD databases, something like this : $ rrdtool dump foo.rrd > foo.xml (on the Solaris box) $ rrdtool restore foo.xml foo.rrd (on the AIX box) -- Frédéric Mangeant Steria EDC Sophia-Antipolis To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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[hobbit] Big Bro TO Hobbit
by pwilliamson＠mandtbank.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

1. Don't do it. 2. If you must, first verify all RRDTool functionality is present. I attempted the same procedure about a year ago and I could not get RRDTool 1.x working on AIX because of some oddball problem with the shared objects and the perl module. 3. Finally, to answer your question, yes, you need to dump the RRDTool databases to XML (use rrddump) and copy the resulting files over to your AIX box then use rrdrestore to get them into the format for AIX. Paul >>> JMSmith at stvincenthealth.com 12/19/05 9:27 AM >>> Greetings! I'm upgrading from Big Brother to Hobbit after over 3 years on the old beast. The problem I'm having is moving the 'rrd' files from Solaris to AIX. It isn't just the naming convention...the file structure itself is apparently different. Has anyone done this or do I have to over-heat my brain trying to figure it out myself? <grin> This is probably a question for the the 'rrdtool' folks, but since many people have upgrade from BB to Hobbit I thought this might be a good place to start. Thanks! Jim Smith Unix Systems Administrator St. Vincent Health Systems Little Rock, AR NOTICE: This email contains confidential or proprietary information which may be legally privileged. It is intended only for the named recipient(s). If an addressing error has misdirected the email, please notify the author by replying to this message. If you are not the named recipient, you are not authorized to use, disclose, distribute, copy, print or rely on this email, and should immediately delete it from your computer system.

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Temporary Files
by mailinglists＠websitemanagers.com.au 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Just thought I might clarify tmp file handling for hobbit and hobbit client specifically. It would seem to me that tmp file handling is probably insecure... -rw-r--r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 237 2005-12-19 14:41 hobbit_vmstat.12913 -rw-r--r-- 1 hobbit hobbit 14996 2005-12-19 14:41 msg.txt ie, it is easy for an 'attacker' to create a file called msg.txt before hobbit does (though it seems that file is kept there all the time, so it would have to be created between system bootup and hobbit startup. The vmstat file would be easier to do, since it is removed each time after use. Just thought it would be nice to use a tmp dir specifically for hobbit, such as /tmp/hobbit or /usr/lib/hobbit/client/tmp etc ..... Regards, Adam

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Mailing list program boucing
by Jason.Chambers＠geosoft.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

Hi Henrik, Your mailing list program automatically removed me from the mailing list (or at least it said it did) because your auto probing of valid email address got caught by our spam filtering solution. Will this probe always come from hobbit-help at hswn.dk so I can put it on a whitelist? Jason Chambers IT Helpdesk Support eosoft Inc. 85 Richmond St. West - 8th Floor Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5H 2C9 Tel: 416-369-0111 x344 Fax: 416-369-9599 www.geosoft.com

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[hobbit] hobbitd_alert Fatal signal caught!
by Craig_Whilding＠mentor.com 19 Dec '05

19 Dec '05

I've had this before. The module probably crashed at some point which causes hobbit to send a new red alert for it to hobbit (Not sure about the reason for the crash in your case). Hobbit will then restart it but the alert will remain and turn purple as it will not be updated. You can remove the check using the drop command and shown in tips and tricks section. Thanks, Craig -----Original Message----- From: Etienne Roulland [mailto:Etienne.Roulland at cvf.fr] Sent: 19 December 2005 10:18 To: hobbit at hswn.dk Subject: [hobbit] hobbitd_alert Fatal signal caught! Hi, i have upgrading from 4.1.2 to 4.1.2p1 and now i have this error... I don't find any core files, nothing special in debug file.. Alerts are send normaly... Don't undertand why i still get this test red and now purple ... Rgds, -- Etienne Roulland --- CVF Bordeaux To unsubscribe from the hobbit list, send an e-mail to hobbit-unsubscribe at hswn.dk

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